<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div></div><div>Noise ordinance foe arrested</div><div>Claims retaliation</div><div>By Ima Jo Ker</div><div>April 1, 2012</div><div>The Daily Blues</div><div><br></div><div> Police arrested noise ordinance foe Garrett Clevenger Saturday for excessive noise. Clevenger was playing rock and roll in his basement when Officer Gonna Getcha was biking by. Getcha claimed the music was too loud and Moscow's noise ordinance gave police officers the discretion to ticket offenders for any noise. <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Getcha warned Clevenger of his violation.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> "When I finally was able to get Mr. Clevenger's attention, he agreed to turn his guitar amp down, but when I returned, it was actually louder," Getcha said.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> Getcha issued a citation to Clevenger, who then was alleged to tear it up in front of Getcha.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> "He told me the noise ordinance was illegal, thus the ticket and my intrusion were unwarranted. I gave him a ticket for littering," Getcha said.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> Clevenger was then alleged to have taken his clothes off and run around the neighborhood. Getcha called for backup and eventually apprehended and arrested Clevenger.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> Clevenger gave a different account, claiming Getcha retaliated for Clevenger's recent Vision 2020 post regarding officer Phil Gray. That post created an uproar.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> "I understand why that post was misinterpreted. It's unfortunate that it's point was proven by the way a certain law enforcement officer reacted. I'm just glad that most officers see where I'm coming from," Clevenger explained.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> Clevenger's post was about how should the community expect law enforcement officers to behave, either serving us or working against us? Clevenger compared Gray's recent actions, where he prevented a car accident by blocking an out-of-control car with his own vehicle, to an email Gray sent to Clevenger during his attempt to prevent the city from modifying the noise ordinance.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> "I was trying to prevent the city from passing a law that gives police officers the right to ticket anyone at anytime for any noise the officer deems offensive. That effort was stressful enough. Officer Gray sent me an email which I found to be hostile. When he never replied to my response, I realized he wasn't interested in dialog. Two hours after replying to his email, though, two of officer Gray's colleagues came to my house for something supposedly unrelated. It was creepy and I felt intimadated. This shouldn't happen to citizens who are just exercising their rights and civic responsibility," Clevenger explained.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> Clevenger let that go and never made public which officer sent that email. His feelings changed when he heard about Gray's accident. Clevenger posted on Vision 2020 his thoughts.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> "I hesitated about what I should say. I knew it would upset people. It was a serious subject and would probably be misinterpreted. My mistake was probably keeping humor out of it. I never thought I'd be arrested for it, though," Clevenger said.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> Clevenger did concur with some of Getcha's story.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> "We were jamming Keep On Rockin' In the Free World. When we stopped, we heard banging on the door. I opened it to find officer Gonna Getcha there. He told me he heard us playing music while biking by. I've never had a neighbor complain about us rocking out. I try not to play too loud and too late. It was still early evening. We weren't the loudest thing around," Clevenger said.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> "I definitely was torn then. I didn't want to offend anyone, but we wanted to jam more. I really felt like officer Getcha was being too strict with his warning. Would you stop doing what you're doing just because on over-ambitious officer reads an illegal law to the letter? I told him we'd lower the volume, and I think we did. When he returned and gave me the ticket, I knew he was looking for an excuse to harass me. I knew my Vision 2020 post was probably the cause. He must not have liked the way I looked at him then because the next thing I know I was on the ground and handcuffed," Clevenger said.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> He denies tearing the ticket up and taking his clothes off.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> "I'm sure there'd be a YouTube video out now if I was running around naked. It's ironic because I fought against the nudity ordinance when it was passed, but I'm really more modest than that," Clevenger said.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> If the city presses charges against him, Clevenger plans to sue. He thinks he has a strong case against the noise ordinance for being over-broad and unconstitutional and Idaho state law prevents cities from passing obscenity laws.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> "I really just wanted to have a dialog about proper law enforcement conduct. Officer Gray's heroic effort to stop that car is exemplary. That's how I want to think of him when I hear his name, not that he was the officer who seemed hostile towards me trying to be a good citizen. Hopefully we can get past this and start focusing on how all of us can get along better. I hope he gets better soon. Maybe we can jam out some day," Clevenger concluded.</span></div><div><br></div><h1><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">[Vision2020] Proper Law Enforcement/ was Local Hero</span></h1><b>Garrett Clevenger</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020%40moscow.com?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BVision2020%5D%20Local%20Hero&In-Reply-To=%3C7699e9c658075d8b0382da70ac5456ec%40turbonet.com%3E" title="[Vision2020] Local Hero">garrettmc at frontier.com </a><br><i>Fri Mar 30 11:00:34 PDT 2012</i><p></p><ul><li>Previous message: <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2012-March/082074.html">[Vision2020] How to submit to slavery</a></li><li>Next message: <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2012-March/082077.html">[Vision2020] Keep on rockin' in the free world</a></li><li><b>Messages sorted by:</b> <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2012-March/date.html#82076">[ date ]</a> <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2012-March/thread.html#82076">[ thread ]</a> <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2012-March/subject.html#82076">[ subject ]</a> <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2012-March/author.html#82076">[ author ]</a></li></ul><div>To stir the pot, I'll say it's kind of ironic what happened to officer Gray considering what he wrote to me when I was fighting the noise ordinance modification:</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:55</span></div><div>"Mr. Clevenger,<p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"> </span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">I think the opinion from magistrate Hamlett, as he is NOT the District Judge-that would be Judge Stegner, regarding police officers not being able to represent themselves as citizens because they represent all citizens is just that, his opinion. He is also the judge that says being struck by a suspect when trying to arrest him/her is just part of the job, hence the small bail amount for battery on a peace officer. I’m not sure about you, but I didn’t see anything in my job description stating something like, “as part of your job, you will be kicked, hit, punched, slapped or otherwise abused by any person while attempting to fulfill your duties as a police officer “ </span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"> </span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Question to you….Have you ever been to any noise complaints where the violators yell and scream at you, call you, your family, your kids names, threaten you, your family, your kids with bodily harm etc….???? I doesn’t happen often, but it does happen. Apparently you have little or no trust in the MPD to fairly enforce such an ordinance."</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">I'll let you decide if it's appropriate for police officers to send emails like this to those who are fighting to try to limit their power and stand up for constitutional rights.</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Personally, I thought it was a form of intimidation, particularly in light of what happened following my response to him. This is not how police officers should behave. Fortunately it's on the more tolerable end of crossing the line.</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">People who want the right to enforce the law should be held to the highest standard. They need to prove they are worthy of trust, not be given a free pass. Things are sometimes black and white, not shades of gray.</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Sometimes how officers are perceived to be acting is more important than how they really act. Their job becomes a lot easier when the people they are empowered to enforce the law over respect and trust them.</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Perhaps this is all paranoia, but seeing what's happening pretty much every where, I wonder why or if Moscow is different. In other words, why wouldn't one assume that, even though we're in Moscow, the tendency is for those in power to cross the line? Why wouldn't someone be concerned when they feel intimidated for speaking out? Hard liners in Iran crack heads, but it can happen anywhere.</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">My point is that sometimes even the finest officers do things which are inappropriate and disconcerting to citizens. If they are recognized for their heroism, they should be recognized for crossing the line.</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Officer Gray's recent actions preventing a worse accident are an inspiration. That's the way I want to think of him.</span><br></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">I'm only writing this because I'm still irked by the whole noise ordinance fiasco.</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">I can only hope there won't be fallout from my comment, but if our officers really are trustworthy, there shouldn't be a problem. I think they should understand that if officers start crossing the line, things can get out of control.</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Hopefully my message that those in power cross shouldn't cross the line outweighs any repercussions. </span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">I wish officer Gray will get well soon. He did a good thing here.</span><br></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Garrett Clevenger</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">PS His email wouldn't have been so bad if he had replied to my response to him, which is found below. But I guess he really wasn't interested in engaging in dialog about this issue:</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:09</span></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">"Honestly, I don't have an issue with party houses or</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">the situation you describe. I'm more annoyed by</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">late-night fire crackers.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Is there a law against people being assholes, which</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">sounds like the people you are describing? I don't</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">like people like that, but this proposal wouldn't</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">specifically solve that problem.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"> </span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">As I stated on v2020 earlier, I have no reason to</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">believe that MPD would abuse the proposal. But that</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">isn't the point. We can have the finest police</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">officers around (I have only had good encounters with</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">them) but that doesn't mean there isn't the potential</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">for abuse now or in the future.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">I believe you are a police officer and if so, I thank</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">you for your service. I am sure you see all kinds of</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">crap. There are lots of idiots out there. I assume,</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">though, no body made you become a cop. I wouldn't</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">want the job myself, so I assume you have a passion</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">for what you are doing and must enjoy some aspects of</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">it. You probably had an idea, though, that you would</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">be dealing with the low lives and potentially be</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">threatened.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">My cousin is a cop and he's told me some heinous</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">stories. I realize that you guys have experiences</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">that give you a different perspective on things than</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">us civilians.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">My best friend is living in Mexico right now where the</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">law enforcement carry ak 47's. And they are very</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">common. He says things are very peaceful and the cops</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">are nice. But that doesn't mean I'd want to replicate</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">that scenario here. [There also is no noise ordinance and things can get noisy]</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Frankly, I distrust most people, including those in</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">power. Obviously innocent until proven guilty, but</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">that doesn't mean you infringe our constitutional</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">rights to cover a few bad apples (assholes) who are</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">annoying you.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Did you hear about the guy being tackled and tasered</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">in Florida questioning John Kerry a few weeks ago? </span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">From what you know, do you think they handled the</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">situation responsibly? Do you think all cops are</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">good, or are there bad cops out there who should not</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">be in a position of power</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">I believe people have the right to free speech, though</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">the courts often rule against someone expressing</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">themselves in a negative way. But I ask you, should</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">it be illegal for someone to yell at you? Isn't it</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">already illegal to threaten someone? Or are you</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">saying that as a police officer, you don't have the</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">right to not be threatened?</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Perhaps you know more about Hamlett's opinion. That</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">was news to me when our city attorney Randy Fife made</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">the statement at the city council meeting. I doubt he</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">would say it if it wasn't important.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">I imagine that is his opinion based on the right to</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">face your accuser in a court of law, but perhaps there</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">is another reason.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Does Idaho code back up Hamlett's opinion?</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Lastly, do you support this proposal to give police</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">officers the right to issue a citation on the spot to</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">anybody, anytime, anywhere in Moscow for being noisy</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">enough to annoy the officer? If so, do you think it</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">is right for the council to vote on this issue without</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">inviting the public to testify?</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">I appreciate you being objective listening to my</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">points. I hope you appreciate that I am uncomfortable</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">taking such a public stance as this. People are shot</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">for challenging the powers given to authority. There</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">is a threat of retaliation from your fellow officers</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">for me standing up for my rights. I just hope you</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">don't take this personally and decide to target me</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">personally. Perhaps that is the risk I take. But</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">that still wouldn't be justice and ultimately serve</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">what I assume is your oath to serve and protect us</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">citizens and the laws of the land.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">This proposal is more than about you or me. It is</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">about the ideals that make up America. How much blood</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">has been shed trying to grant these freedoms to</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Americans? The struggle between equal rights, liberty</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">and security continues. As an American, it is my duty</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">to stand up when those in power are acting</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">irresponsibly.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Thanks,</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">Garrett</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">ps On another note, I invite you to listen to a song I</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">wrote, A Guy I Wouldn't Want To Know, as tribute to</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">those slain by the sniper last May so that you know I</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">am not a bad guy.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">I know Lee Newbill was a friend of yours and I am</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">truly sorry he suffered the worst fate in the line of</span></font></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">duty.</span></font></p><p class="p8" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; min-height: 16px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p18" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; background-color: rgb(228, 242, 255); "><span class="s3" style="font-size: 17px;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica">visit <a href="http://profile.myspace.com/garrettclevenger"><span class="s10" style="font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; text-decoration: underline; ">http://profile.myspace.com/garrettclevenger</span></a> to</font></span></p><p class="p7" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 12.9px/normal Courier; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">listen."</span></font></p><p class="p2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 18px/normal Times; min-height: 23px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 18px/normal Times; min-height: 23px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p2" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 18px/normal Times; min-height: 23px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p1" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 18px/normal Times; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;">I never received a response. I would have felt better had this officer answered my questions. Two hours after replying to him, though, two of his fellow officers came to my house to ask me questions about my ex-fiance from 4 years ago who is a witness in a trial that will start in January. Instead of calling, they wanted to come in. This was either a strange coincidence, a cruel joke, or they were trying to intimidate me. I believe in free speech for everybody, but when someone gets a hostile email from the police when at the same time working on limiting the powers of the police, that skirts pretty close to violating the right to petition the government for redress of grievances. If government officials intimidate people who speak out, that could be construed as an infringement of our First Amendment right.</span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"><br></span></font></p><p class="p11" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 9px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 17px;"> </span></font></p><div><br></div><br><br></div></div><div></div></div><div></div></div><div></div></div></div><div></div></div><div></div></div><div></div></div></div></div><div></div></body></html>