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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Hi Paul,<BR>
<BR>
Thanks for the responses. I'll address a few points and then I'm done.<BR>
<BR>
In my book on evangelical Christianity, I went to great pains to distinguish between those theologians whom I learned to respect and those that I came to disrespect. My focus was always on persons/leaders and not the tens of thousands of people in their congregations or denominations.<BR>
<BR>
The focus of my criticism has always been on Wilson's inner circle and not church members or NSA students. I assume that most of them do not have the vices their leaders have.<BR>
<BR>
One clarification: I was not inviting NSA faculty and students to "debates," but a regional professional conference where faculty present papers in a respectful way and where students are also given a chance to interact and present their views as well. I have no desire to debate Wilson because I have no respect for him nor could I trust him.<BR>
<BR>
You admit that Ron Paul is a "crazy guy," and yet you will vote for him? Now that's irrational.<BR>
<BR>
Thanks for the dialogue,<BR>
<BR>
Nick<BR>
<BR>
> A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know<BR>
> they shall never sit in.<BR>
><BR>
> -Greek proverb<BR>
> Hi Paul,<BR>
><BR>
> Thanks for the apology. I don't know if you wanted include in this<BR>
> reply. As per usual, I forgot to press "Reply All" when I sent me<BR>
> post below.<BR>
><BR>
> Apology accepted. Now what a response to what I said?<BR>
><BR>
> Nick<BR>
><BR>
> > Hi Paul,<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Thanks for referring to me--at least indirectly--by my first name. It<BR>
> > makes me feel like a real person in this debate. Thanks for the<BR>
> > third-person respect.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > You say that what set you off was my signing myself as "Proud<BR>
> > Intolerista. It's not intolerant to dislike intellectual dishonesty,<BR>
> > ordinary dishonesty, bigotry, and bad manners." I don't tolerate<BR>
> > intellectual dishonesty among my colleagues and students and I judge<BR>
> > it harshly. My former student Doug Wilson is no different. Am I to<BR>
> > assume that you don't dislike these vices? I hope not.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Perhaps you did not read my long post about my sincere engagement with<BR>
> > NSA faculty and students, but let me just add that Wilson and I had<BR>
> > friendly relations until from 1973 to 1993 when he double-crossed me<BR>
> > on an abortion debate, but I remained cordial and respectful<BR>
> > thereafter. The slavery debate and his reactions to it changed<BR>
> > everything for me and I now have no respect for him at all. Of course<BR>
> > he is free to say what he wants, but I will continue to condemn him as<BR>
> > long as I have breath.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > In your first post on this issue you remarked that you found my<BR>
> > actions odd for a rational person. Similarly, I find your support for<BR>
> > Ron Paul irrational. With support from a GOP Congress he could really<BR>
> > destroy our economy.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Thanks for the dialogue (especially now that I personally recognized),<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Nick<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Nicholas F. Gier, Professor Emeritus<BR>
> > Department of Philosophy, University of Idaho<BR>
> > "The Palouse Pundit" on Radio Free Moscow, 92.5 FM<BR>
> > President, Idaho Federation of Teachers, AFT/AFL-CIO<BR>
> > www.idaho-aft.org/ift.htm<BR>
> > 208-882-9212, 410 Samaritan Lane, Moscow, ID 83843<BR>
> ><BR>
> > "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed immaturity.<BR>
> > Immaturity is the inability to use one's understanding without<BR>
> > guidance from another. This immaturity is self- imposed when its cause<BR>
> > lies not in lack of understanding, but in lack of resolve and courage<BR>
> > to use it without guidance from another. Sapere Aude! 'Have courage to<BR>
> > use your own understand-ing!---that is the motto of enlightenment.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > --Immanuel Kant<BR>
> ><BR>
> > A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know<BR>
> > they shall never sit in.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > -Greek proverb<BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> > -----Original Message-----<BR>
> > From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com on behalf of Paul Rumelhart<BR>
> > Sent: Sat 3/31/2012 11:13 AM<BR>
> > To: Sunil Ramalingam<BR>
> > Cc: vision 2020<BR>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "We are the answer"<BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> > I might even join in a peaceful protest of a KKK parade, in an effort to<BR>
> > promote the idea of equality. I would likely try to calm people down if<BR>
> > they were angered by the KKK members, and if the protest turned into<BR>
> > anything but peaceful, I would leave it.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > In answer to your question, of course we have the right to judge<BR>
> > people's views and oppose them if we don't like them. That's what I'm<BR>
> > doing here. My initial post was an effort to show the "Intoleristas"<BR>
> > that they were in fact intolerant. It wasn't an effort to have them<BR>
> > shut down or in any way silenced. The statement that started this was<BR>
> > in one of Nick's posts ("It's not intolerant to dislkike intellectual<BR>
> > dishonesty, ordinary dishonesty, bigotry, and bad manners.") I stated<BR>
> > that what I've seen from the Intoleristas certainly looks like<BR>
> > intolerance to me. Most of the responses have either been attempts to<BR>
> > show me that Doug Wilson is so bad that being intolerant of him is our<BR>
> > civic duty, or a shocked reaction to the fact that I really don't care<BR>
> > what nonsense others believe. Oh, and a few attempts to tie my lack of<BR>
> > caring about other's personal beliefs with either character flaws, my<BR>
> > race, gender, and economic status, or support for murder, racial<BR>
> > violence, or the Nazi party.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Paul<BR>
> ><BR>
> > On 03/31/2012 10:39 AM, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:<BR>
> > > Paul,<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > If the Klan wants to hold a parade, I defend their right to do so. I<BR>
> > > won't try to prevent them from having their parade.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > But I will be there to protest them and their opinions, and will<BR>
> > > support the right of others to do the same.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > People have the right to any view they want, as far as I'm concerned,<BR>
> > > and I think we agree here. What they don't have is the right to have<BR>
> > > us all say, 'That's just dandy.' We have the right to judge their<BR>
> > > views, and oppose them if we think they're wrong. I get the feeling<BR>
> > > you don't think we have that right. Am I correct about that?<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Sunil<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ><BR>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>
> > > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:31:41 -0700<BR>
> > > From: godshatter@yahoo.com<BR>
> > > To: art.deco.studios@gmail.com<BR>
> > > CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "We are the answer"<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > On 03/31/2012 10:07 AM, Art Deco wrote:<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > 1. Rumelhart writes:<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > "If black teenagers wearing hoods were being harassed here in<BR>
> > > Moscow, I'd be suggesting that we should all be more tolerant of<BR>
> > > others on this list. If Muslim women in Moscow were being<BR>
> > > harassed I'd be suggesting that we should all be more tolerant of<BR>
> > > each other."<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Hence, Rumelhart would also heartily agree with the same amount of<BR>
> > > tenacity to the following:<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > "If KKK members wearing hoods were being harassed here in Moscow,<BR>
> > > I'd be suggesting that we should all be more tolerant of others on<BR>
> > > this list. If Aryan Nations members and other white supremacists<BR>
> > > in Moscow were being harassed I'd be suggesting that we should all<BR>
> > > be more tolerant of each other."<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Yes, actually I would. If one group is harassing another group merely<BR>
> > > because of their beliefs, then, yes, I would be calling for more<BR>
> > > tolerance. I'm not saying that would be my reaction if KKK members<BR>
> > > were physically harassing non-whites on the streets, but it would be<BR>
> > > my reaction if someone just simply declared that they supported the<BR>
> > > KKK and they were getting harassed for it.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > It's really not that difficult of a concept. It's not my purpose in<BR>
> > > life to force everyone to think my way. Individualism and the<BR>
> > > sanctity of the mind are important concepts to me. I'm only<BR>
> > > interested in how we all interact in the physical plane.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Just out of curiosity, if someone produced a mind control device that<BR>
> > > could be used on people to (among other things) change their core<BR>
> > > beliefs, would you recommend we use it on KKK members?<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > 2. Rumelhart also writes:<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > "But if one particular faith is being singled out because of their<BR>
> > > beliefs and some bad blood between list members, I'm effectively<BR>
> > > shunned if I suggest that we be more tolerant of them."<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > So now its all about you, Rumelhart. Who would have guessed?<BR>
> > > Poor, poor Rumelhart.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Thank you for your kind words, but I don't really care that much about<BR>
> > > it. I'm just pointing out that a mere request for tolerance can't be<BR>
> > > tolerated on this list. I don't know about you, but I find that<BR>
> ironic.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Paul (or, if you wish, "Rumelhart")<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > w.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:24 PM, keely emerinemix<BR>
> > > <kjajmix1@msn.com <<A HREF="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com</A>>> wrote:<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > No, Paul, it is NOT "the main point of contention" that the<BR>
> > > Christ Church people "simply think that the historical facts<BR>
> > > of slavery differ from what's normally understood by<BR>
> > > historians" -- two of whose criticism of that view caused our<BR>
> > > thin-skinned patriarchal bigot Wilson to seek their censure by<BR>
> > > the Governor and the UI President.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Just to give you an idea of how generous Wilson is in his<BR>
> > > extension of the freedom of others to interfere with his<BR>
> > > mission . . .<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Wilson's beliefs are made manifest in his words, and those<BR>
> > > words promote ideas that are dangerous to civil, stable<BR>
> > > society as you or I know it, and sound the death knell to<BR>
> > > anything resembling a flourishing, just and righteous -- or<BR>
> > > Christian -- society beyond that. His proud claim to be a<BR>
> > > "paleo-Confederate," his buddying around with<BR>
> > > Neo-Confederates, his attempts to persuade his followers that<BR>
> > > Blacks enjoyed being enslaved and his insistence that such<BR>
> > > slavery was Biblical -- all of this hints, minimally, at<BR>
> > > something less than mere errors of historical understanding.<BR>
> > > I'm a Bible student, not a scholar, but I can assure you that<BR>
> > > Antebellum slavery was in no way similar to Roman or earlier<BR>
> > > Hebraic slaveholding, and it was not at any point "Biblically<BR>
> > > defensible." Given that he makes his living pulling the<BR>
> > > hermeneutical and political wool over other Christians' eyes,<BR>
> > > it damned well matters.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > It's one thing to simply err in one's grasp of history. I'm<BR>
> > > probably not the person to go to on the finer details of the<BR>
> > > Pelopennesian Wars, for example, but my errors would be<BR>
> > > inconsequential and subject to the derision they deserve if I<BR>
> > > choose to spout off on that of which I know nothing, although<BR>
> > > if I "see differently" in the service of a dangerous agenda,<BR>
> > > much less call that agenda "Christian," I deserve every bit of<BR>
> > > condemnation I incur. I won't call you "evil" for it, but I<BR>
> > > struggle with how to tell you how little I care that you and<BR>
> > > others consider me "intolerant" for condemning Wilson and his<BR>
> > > lackeys (a term I used in speaking to him by phone three weeks<BR>
> > > ago, just in case you think I feel like it's OK to just scurry<BR>
> > > around Vision 2020 rather than engage courageously with him<BR>
> > > personally. Been there, done that, will do it again any time<BR>
> > > he's up to it).<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > I laugh when, in the movie "Best In Show," the announcer<BR>
> > > intones that Columbus came over on the Mayflower. Such<BR>
> > > ignorance is funny in reel life, sad in real life. But I<BR>
> > > would urge you to really consider if all "different thinking"<BR>
> > > on historical, social, political, and religious matters is<BR>
> > > benign and worthy of defense.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > In this case, we have an indefensible malignancy of the worst<BR>
> > > type -- that which invokes God. Its spread won't be because I<BR>
> > > and a few others stayed silent in its metastasizing.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Keely<BR>
> > > www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<BR>
> > > <<A HREF="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</A>><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>
> > > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:51:40 -0700<BR>
> > > From: godshatter@yahoo.com <<A HREF="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com</A>><BR>
> > > To: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<BR>
> > > <<A HREF="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>><BR>
> > > CC: vision2020@moscow.com <<A HREF="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "We are the answer"<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > If members of Christ Church were going around enslaving<BR>
> > > people, you might have a point. As it is, they simply think<BR>
> > > that the historical facts of slavery differ from what's<BR>
> > > normally understood by historians. I'm not comfortable<BR>
> > > ostracizing a group merely because of what they think about<BR>
> > > something. That seems to be the main point of contention,<BR>
> here.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > There is a huge difference between murdering a person based<BR>
> > > solely on their race or culture, and thinking, well, whatever<BR>
> > > it is that the Christ Churchers think exactly about slavery in<BR>
> > > the Old South. Or, more simply, between murdering anyone for<BR>
> > > any reason and thinking thoughts others find offensive.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Paul<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > On 03/30/2012 07:49 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Paul,<BR>
> > > You are right that everyone needs to work on caring and<BR>
> > > accepting their neighbors for the people that they are.<BR>
> > > However, it should concern you that some people do not<BR>
> > > acknowledge the human atrocities that occurred with the<BR>
> > > slavery of a race not that long ago. A race that even<BR>
> > > today feels and sufferers the consequences of those<BR>
> > > events. It is in effect racist to not acknowledge the<BR>
> > > human suffering and violations that occurred to a race of<BR>
> > > people. If we can ignore or deceive others into ignoring<BR>
> > > one of the greatest human rights violations in the United<BR>
> > > States, than we can easily ignore all other human rights<BR>
> > > violations. Which, in effect, puts all humans, including<BR>
> > > yourself and everyone you care about at risk. Where one<BR>
> > > person's rights are ignored and violated, everyone<BR>
> > > else can be violated as well. That should concern you. It<BR>
> > > is not the practice or belief in a religion that people<BR>
> > > object to, but rather the practice of racist preaching<BR>
> > > that the violation of human rights that occurred to Blacks<BR>
> > > in the United States really didn't happen that people are<BR>
> > > objecting to.<BR>
> > > Donovan Arnold<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > *From:* Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com><BR>
> > > <<A HREF="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com</A>><BR>
> > > *To:* Saundra Lund <v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm><BR>
> > > <<A HREF="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</A>><BR>
> > > *Cc:* vision2020@moscow.com <<A HREF="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>
> > > *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2012 6:59 PM<BR>
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] "We are the answer"<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > If black teenagers wearing hoods were being harassed here<BR>
> > > in Moscow, I'd<BR>
> > > be suggesting that we should all be more tolerant of<BR>
> > > others on this<BR>
> > > list. If Muslim women in Moscow were being harassed I'd<BR>
> > > be suggesting<BR>
> > > that we should all be more tolerant of each other. But if<BR>
> > > one<BR>
> > > particular faith is being singled out because of their<BR>
> > > beliefs and some<BR>
> > > bad blood between list members, I'm effectively shunned if<BR>
> > > I suggest<BR>
> > > that we be more tolerant of them.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > What a world.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > Paul<BR>
> > ><BR>
> > > On 03/30/2012 02:25 PM, Saundra Lund wrote:<BR>
> > > > Visionaries:<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > > I know not all here would agree -- some choose to focus<BR>
> > > on the "intolerance"<BR>
> > > > of so-called Intoleristas rather than on the public<BR>
> > > intolerance of bigoted<BR>
> > > > groups that galvanized some of us to pull our complacent<BR>
> > > heads from the sand<BR>
> > > > -- but this eloquently and accurately reflects my thoughts:<BR>
> > > > "We must be active architects of a better country and a<BR>
> > > better world.<BR>
> > > > Silence in the face of bigotry and discrimination is<BR>
> > > agreement and consent.<BR>
> > > > We must challenge every instance of inequality, no<BR>
> > > matter how small it is.<BR>
> > > > While overcoming our history's dark side is not<BR>
> > > pleasant, it is something we<BR>
> > > > must actively do every day."<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > > Here's the full letter that was published in today's<BR>
> > > Moscow-Pullman Daily<BR>
> > > > News:<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > > Letter to the Editor<BR>
> > > > We are the answer<BR>
> > > > Posted: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:00 am | Updated: 8:22<BR>
> > > am, Fri Mar 30, 2012.<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > > My heart is deeply grieved by the recent news that<BR>
> > > Shaima Alawadi, an Iraqi<BR>
> > > > mother of five living in California was beaten to death<BR>
> > > by a tire iron.<BR>
> > > > Found on her body was a note that said, "Go back to your<BR>
> > > own country. You're<BR>
> > > > a terrorist." This incident shows the long-reaching<BR>
> > > effects the political<BR>
> > > > rhetoric and rancor of the past 10 years has had on the<BR>
> > > American psyche. A<BR>
> > > > spark of anger and hatred spurred by our popular culture<BR>
> > > and political<BR>
> > > > leaders has turned into a fire within the fringe of our<BR>
> > > country.<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > > Gay youth are committing suicide due to relentless<BR>
> > > intimidation and<BR>
> > > > harassment. Travyon Martin was gunned down for what some<BR>
> > > call "wearing a<BR>
> > > > hood while black." And the murder of Alawadi. All point<BR>
> > > to a startling<BR>
> > > > problem. There is a dark side of American culture. While<BR>
> > > it's underground,<BR>
> > > > it's still there. A deep seated resentment of other<BR>
> > > races, of people unlike<BR>
> > > > us, lies in the hearts of many. This dark side exists<BR>
> > > everywhere. I cannot<BR>
> > > > count how many times I have heard racial, homophobic and<BR>
> > > sexist slurs at<BR>
> > > > sporting events, social gatherings, even in the work<BR>
> > > place and classes. This<BR>
> > > > isn't just a problem isolated to my community, but it is<BR>
> > > ingrained within<BR>
> > > > the very fabric of our society.<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > > It would be easy for us to give up hope, hope of a<BR>
> > > better tomorrow, a<BR>
> > > > tomorrow without wrathful hatred and reckless violence.<BR>
> > > But we cannot. We<BR>
> > > > are the answer to the problem. We must be active<BR>
> > > architects of a better<BR>
> > > > country and a better world. Silence in the face of<BR>
> > > bigotry and<BR>
> > > > discrimination is agreement and consent. We must<BR>
> > > challenge every instance of<BR>
> > > > inequality, no matter how small it is. While overcoming<BR>
> > > our history's dark<BR>
> > > > side is not pleasant, it is something we must actively<BR>
> > > do every day.<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > > Derrick Skaug<BR>
> > > > ASWSU Vice-President Elect<BR>
> > > > Pullman<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > > __________<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > > Indeed.<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > > Saundra Lund<BR>
> > > > Moscow, ID<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for<BR>
> > > good people to do<BR>
> > > > nothing.<BR>
> > > > ~ Edmund Burke<BR>
> > > ><BR>
> > > ><BR>
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