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I don't believe you're evil, Paul. I do believe you're not seeing the Wilson situation clearly, and it puzzles me that you are seemingly unable to and apparently are more than a little naive. But I don't think you're a bad guy, as much as I vehemently disagree with you. The "bad guys" in my post are Wilson's associates and lackeys; I wasn't calling you one. <br><br>I just wish you understood how silence in the face of evil is, in my
mind, assent -- an assent that empowers, encourages, and establishes
oppression and hate, violence and bigotry. A bad guy in my book is someone who would cheerfully deny basic rights and dignity to others in the name of the God I worship. Someone who doesn't see that person as a threat is, I believe, just not getting it. You may never, in my mind, "get it," but that doesn't make you Satan. <br><br><font style="" color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size:12pt" size="3"><font style="" face="Verdana">Keely<br>www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<br></font></font></font><br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:50:44 -0700<br>From: godshatter@yahoo.com<br>To: kjajmix1@msn.com<br>CC: thansen@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Posturing Ennui: Deja Vu All Over Again<br><br>
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I can certainly understand that. <br>
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All I'm saying is that not caring whether or not someone believes
something I disagree with, even if they express that belief from the
pulpit, does not make me "basically disinterested in universal human
rights" as has been alleged. I would say it's quite the opposite.
I've long been a supporter of freedom of expression on this list.
It's an important freedom to me. <br>
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I don't care if someone thinks that the slaves in the South had it
easy, and I don't care if someone thinks the Holocaust never
happened. I also don't care of they think the White Man is a crazed
predator that destroys everything he touches. People are welcome to
their own opinions, and are welcome to express them as they like.
This does not mean I'm an evil man. <br>
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Paul<br>
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On 03/28/2012 02:10 PM, keely emerinemix wrote:
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I would add that when said hairdresser or grocer takes on the
mantle of "pastor" and then teaches that public, active
affirmation of evils such as the death march and Hiroshima are
intrinsically and fundamentally linked to my religion, I would
not only disavow their statements but object, and object
strenuously, to that and any other perversion of the faith I
live for. <br>
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It only takes a few bad men to convince thousands of people that
applauding historic evil is a righteous and faithful thing to
do. This woman, though, will fight them 'til the day she dies.<br>
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<font style="" color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size:12pt" size="3"><font style="" face="Verdana">Keely<br>
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<hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:23:54 -0700<br>
To: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>
CC: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Posturing Ennui: Deja Vu All Over
Again<br>
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<div>Paul Rumelhart inquires:</div>
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<div>"<span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size:medium">Do people here know or care what their grocer
thinks about the Bataan Death March? Or what their hair
stylist thinks about Nagasaki or Hiroshima?"</span></div>
<div><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size:medium"><br>
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<div><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size:medium">Not if they limited expressing their beliefs to
the confines of the grocery store or hair salon, Mr.
Rumelhart.</span></div>
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<div><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size:medium">But, when these "beliefs" are expressed as fact
from the pulpit by a self-ordained pastor or within a
classroom by an instructor, it matters VERY MUCH.</span></div>
<div><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size:medium"><br>
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<div><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size:medium">Or have you forgotten about the tirades over
local professors simply because they are liberal?</span></div>
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<div>Seeya round town, Moscow.</div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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<div>"If not us, who?</div>
<div>If not now, when?"</div>
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<div>- Unknown</div>
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On Mar 28, 2012, at 12:06, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>
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<blockquote>Do people here know or care what their grocer
thinks about the Bataan Death March? Or what their hair
stylist thinks about Nagasaki or Hiroshima?</blockquote>
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