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    Evil, huh.  You give these guys too much power.  Try acceptance,
    tolerance, and dialogue.  If you think Christ Church is evil, then
    you have no clue what evil really is.<br>
    <br>
    Paul<br>
    <br>
    On 03/28/2012 04:17 PM, Art Deco wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAB8VJX79r2YwChZgOqzdhHmQfxLp+7+tAXVX0b3ci-xdm-U88Q@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Didn't Edmund Burke write:<br>
      <br>
      <h2><font color="#800000">‘All that is necessary for the triumph
          of evil is that good men <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">[and
            women]</span> do
          nothing’</font></h2>
      <br>
      Rose and her friends are obviously of the Edmund Burke school of
      thought and action.  Rumelhart not. <br>
      <br>
      But we nknew that when Rumelhart failed to respond to the
      questions about the likelihood of serial pedophile Steven Sitler
      future behavior.  Rumelhart is a bystander in the quest for a
      better, more just world.  He fits the mold that Cultmaster Douglas
      Wilson hopes that the majority of Moscow citizen's fit.<br>
      <br>
      w.<br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Darrell
        Keim <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">keim153@gmail.com</a>></span>
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          Love this quote, Rose!  Why, you ask?  Cuz if the pope REALLY
          was infallible the world would be flat and fascism WOULD be
          dead!  The fact of the latter two negates the former.  Makes
          me chuckle...<br>
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            On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Rosemary Huskey <span
              dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" target="_blank">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              ...Of course you
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                and anyone else is free to think the world is flat, the
                pope is infallible,<br>
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              and fascism is dead...Rose Huskey
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                  -----Original Message-----<br>
                  From: Paul Rumelhart [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>]<br>
                  Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:07 PM<br>
                  To: Ted Moffett<br>
                  Cc: Rosemary Huskey; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>;
                  vision2020<br>
                  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Posturing Ennui: Deja Vu All
                  Over Again<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  I'm still amazed that I can be called "basically
                  disinterested in universal<br>
                  human rights" because I don't care what a person's
                  opinion on antebellum<br>
                  slavery is.  I didn't say that I don't care about the
                  plight of slaves in<br>
                  that time frame, mind you, just that I don't care what
                  someone else's<br>
                  opinion on the subject is.  Do people here know or
                  care what their grocer<br>
                  thinks about the Bataan Death March?  Or what their
                  hair stylist thinks<br>
                  about Nagasaki or Hiroshima?<br>
                  <br>
                  The doubly amazing part to me is that this can be
                  directly attributed<br>
                  automatically to my ethnicity, gender, and economic
                  level without causing an<br>
                  outrage on this list.<br>
                  <br>
                  For the record, I have this belief that people should
                  be allowed to think<br>
                  what they want, believe what they want, and hold
                  whatever opinions they want<br>
                  whether or not I agree with them.  Crazy, I know.<br>
                  <br>
                  Paul<br>
                  <br>
                  On 03/28/2012 10:32 AM, Ted Moffett wrote:<br>
                  > There's no harm in repeating important points,
                  indeed it is often<br>
                  > necessary, unavoidable, so this post is not meant
                  as criticism of<br>
                  > anyone.<br>
                  ><br>
                  > When I read the recent March 2012 exchange under
                  the subject heading<br>
                  > "Posturing Ennui" as indicated in the altered
                  subject heading of this<br>
                  > post, I was amazed to recall that these three
                  individuals (Tom, Paul,<br>
                  > Rose) in 2009 exchanged dialog where the exact
                  same wording was used<br>
                  > about roughly the same subject, implying that
                  being "white, male,<br>
                  > middle class" was an influence in one of the
                  respondents views on how<br>
                  > to deal with racism or slavery or hate crimes:<br>
                  ><br>
                  > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-August/065757.html"
                    target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-August/065757.html</a><br>
                  > [Vision2020] Officials Counter Racist Acts
                  Rosemary donaldrose at<br>
                  > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://cpcinternet.com" target="_blank">cpcinternet.com</a>
                  Sat Aug 22 16:50:32 PDT 2009<br>
                  ><br>
                  > Tom is dead on to raise the alarm about this guy.
                  Paul, your sense of<br>
                  > white, male, middle class entitlement is showing.
                   I guess you don't<br>
                  > understand that silence is assent - or you don't
                  care.<br>
                  > -----------------------<br>
                  > And in March 2012 in the post below:<br>
                  ><br>
                  > "I’m guessing that you are basically
                  disinterested in universal human<br>
                  > rights because you are lucky enough to be born
                  male, white, and middle<br>
                  class..."<br>
                  ><br>
                  > On 3/25/12, Rosemary Huskey<<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com"
                    target="_blank">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>>
                   wrote:<br>
                  ><br>
                  >> You have identified the nub of the problem,
                  Paul when you write:  “I<br>
                  >> don't particularly care what views a person
                  holds about antebellum<br>
                  >> slavery, or who they think should be in
                  charge of the finances in their<br>
                  marriage.”<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Why is antebellum slavery (and its unhappy,
                  damning legacy)<br>
                  >> unimportant to you? Aren’t you appalled by a
                  culture that frequently<br>
                  >> treated human beings with less regard than
                  domestic farm animals?<br>
                  >> Don’t you find it obscene that anyone would
                  glorify and defend the<br>
                  >> vicious, repulsive culture of the Old South?
                   Is antebellum slavery<br>
                  >> outside your realm of interest because it was
                  a historic rather than<br>
                  >> a contemporary event?  If so, are you equally
                  indifferent to modern<br>
                  >> slavery in parts of Africa, Saudi Arabia, and
                  other Middle Eastern<br>
                  countries?<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Do recent hate crimes arouse a sense of
                  outrage in you?  Do you feel<br>
                  >> compassion for the victims?   How do you feel
                  about the murders of<br>
                  Matthew<br>
                  >> Shepherd or James Byrd?  Is there a gaping
                  hole where your conscience<br>
                  >> ought to be? Are you are aware that your
                  posturing ennui gives tacit<br>
                  >> consent to the hate mongering antics of
                  sociopaths?<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> I’m guessing that you are basically
                  disinterested in universal human<br>
                  >> rights because you are lucky enough to be
                  born male, white, and<br>
                  >> middle class – all of which are unearned
                  privilege.  And, really, if<br>
                  >> you think the most damaging aspect of
                  patriarchy is limited to who is<br>
                  >> in charge of family finance (the words “in
                  charge” are particularly<br>
                  >> revealing, Paul) you are entirely, 100%, just
                  plain old, ordinarily,<br>
                  >> wrong while concurrently demonstrating a
                  profound ignorance about<br>
                  >> elements of successful relationships,
                  marriage and/or partnerships.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Rose Huskey<br>
                  >> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
                    target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a><br>
                  >> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
                    target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]<br>
                  >> On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart<br>
                  >> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 11:07 AM<br>
                  >> To: Tom Hansen<br>
                  >> Cc: vision2020<br>
                  >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps .
                  . .<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> This is a nice example of the intolerance I'm
                  talking about.  I don't<br>
                  >> particularly care what views a person holds
                  about antebellum slavery,<br>
                  >> or who they think should be in charge of the
                  finances in their<br>
                  >> marriage.  I'll still sit down and have a
                  beer with them.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> If the Intoleristas had instead been of the
                  frame of mind of "sorry,<br>
                  >> we're not going to let you turn the Palouse
                  into a theocracy, but<br>
                  >> we're still happy to have you as part of our
                  community", then they<br>
                  >> might not have been so quick to accuse some
                  of you of vandalism when<br>
                  >> they reported the incidents to the police.
                   Go out of your way to<br>
                  >> make yourself someone's enemy, and they will
                  think of you first when<br>
                  something like that happens to them.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Paul<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> On 03/25/2012 04:37 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Intoleristas<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> (in tol er és ta), n.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> *    A person holding anti-slavery sentiments<br>
                  >> *    A committed feminist.<br>
                  >> *    A supporter of the Constitution, human
                  rights, and equality for all,<br>
                  >> regardless of race, ethnicity, gender,
                  religion, economic status, or<br>
                  >> sexual orientation.<br>
                  >> *    A person with a wholesome proclivity for
                  outing shifty hypocrites,<br>
                  >> shameless liars, and sham historians.<br>
                  >> *    A person who is neither intimidated nor
                  silenced by right-wing,<br>
                  theocratic<br>
                  >> bullies, or their sycophantic toadies.<br>
                  >> *    A person who wears the title proudly as
                  a reminder that he/she is<br>
                  about<br>
                  >> the business of democracy.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> "It is not so much what we are as much as
                  what we are about."<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> A flash from the past . . .<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/sounds/Intoleristas_020405.mp3"
                    target="_blank">http://www.tomandrodna.com/sounds/Intoleristas_020405.mp3</a><br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Who can forget . . .<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.notonthepalouse.com/documents/Crouch_LMT_071506.pdf"
                    target="_blank">http://www.notonthepalouse.com/documents/Crouch_LMT_071506.pdf</a><br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Let the whine flow . . .<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.notonthepalouse.com/Wilson_MPDcomplaint_071506.pdf"
                    target="_blank">http://www.notonthepalouse.com/Wilson_MPDcomplaint_071506.pdf</a><br>
                  >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/stuff/Dickison_RecReq.jpg"
                    target="_blank">http://www.tomandrodna.com/stuff/Dickison_RecReq.jpg</a><br>
                  >><br>
                  >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/writofmandate"
                    target="_blank">http://www.tomandrodna.com/writofmandate</a><br>
                  >> ----------------------<br>
                  >> There is, literally, loads and loads more,
                  Mr. Rumelhart . . . like<br>
                  >> letters sent from the un-pastor to
                  then-Governor Kempthorne and<br>
                  >> then-UI President White . . . Doug "Charlie
                  Brown" Wilson's speech at<br>
                  >> the Public Civility Forum at the Hamilton
                  Indoor Recreation Center a<br>
                  >> few years ago . . . the Great Christ Church
                  Debate between the<br>
                  >> Un-Pastor and the Intoleristas' own Keely Mix
                  on KRFP.  I could go on and<br>
                  on and on and . . .<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> I'll jus' leevya with His Whineyness' own
                  words . . .<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/protest/Doug_Wilson_Liers_013107.mp3"
                    target="_blank">http://www.tomandrodna.com/protest/Doug_Wilson_Liers_013107.mp3</a><br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Thanks for the promo, though.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> image.jpeg<br>
                  >> Seeya there, Moscow.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Tom Hansen<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Wallace, Idaho<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> "If not us, who?<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> If not now, when?"<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> - Unknown<br>
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