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You know what? It actually is intolerance. The Christ Church
leadership may not be stellar citizens according to your criteria,
but I see so much ridicule and hatred directed at them on this list
that I fail to see it as anything other than intolerance. For
example, a few years ago people on this list were suggesting that we
boycott any business run by Christ Church members because of some
conflict people on this list had with Doug. I don't even remember
what it was. A tolerant community would welcome people of all
faiths, whether or not they thought their leadership were screw-ups.<br>
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This isn't directed at you, personally, by the way. It's just
something that has bothered me as a long-time Vision2020
subscriber. I'm saying this in response to your post because I find
you to be one of the more rational people on this list. Myself, I
hope they manage to build the cathedral of their dreams, whatever
that might be. The same goes for any other religious group out
there. More power to them.<br>
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I just think that a more welcoming approach might be worth a try
someday. Every single Christ Church member that I have spent more
than a few minutes interacting with has turned out to be a nice,
helpful person. More so than your average person, even. <br>
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I'm not just suggesting that we be more tolerant of them because I
happen to know a few members of their church. If this was a Muslim
group, witches, Satanists (of whatever variety), atheists,
Scientologists, or any other minority religious group, I'd be
suggesting the same thing. Welcome them to the community because
they are people like we all are. It doesn't have to be any more
complicated than that. <br>
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I'm not trying to say that people shouldn't complain about whatever
it is they think Doug has been up to last, I just think that the
"Intolerista" thing should be tossed out the window, as should the
"not on the Palouse, not ever" idea. If it were a group
distinguished because of gender, race, or sexual preference and
people were being proud of their intolerance to them, I would expect
everyone on this list to be rightly offended. I don't know why
people intolerant of a religious tradition are being given a pass.<br>
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Anyway, rant over. I'll go prepare myself for the veritable
shitstorm that I suspect is on it's way.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On 03/24/2012 01:54 PM, Nicholas Gier wrote:
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cite="mid:CAH=vCc5Zd7Tc04GTQZ0X1iALw=vXJ3UOvDUcRNrAzo2KKu=_YQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Hail to the Vision!
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<div>I once had an image file of an archictect's general plan for
the the Kirk's Kirk. (Did Wilson know that "kirk" is Afrikaans
for the churches of racist Dutch Calvinists?) It looked like a
medieval cathedral and would take up the entire property. They
foolishly assumed that they could use Gritman's parking lots,
but permission was wisely refused. Their real estate agent
tried to buy the large vacant piece to the southwest and Gritman
refused to sell that as well.</div>
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<div>It's not intolerant to dislkike intellectual dishonesty,
ordinary dishonesty, bigotry, and bad manners.</div>
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<div>I therefore sign myself a proud Intolerista,</div>
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Nick <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 10:16 AM,
Bradford Cranmer <span dir="ltr"><<a
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The name of that lot is The Christ Church Eternally Phantom
Cathedral.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 9:08 AM,
Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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Seeya round town, Moscow.<br>
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Tom Hansen<br>
Moscow, Idaho<br>
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"If not us, who?<br>
If not now, when?"<br>
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- Unknown<br>
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