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You would've provided some ID to register, Jay. And when you have the GOP saying that, for example, in some states a college ID isn't sufficient but a gun club membership card is, it's a little hard to say that "far-fetched" describes anything other than the motives of the conservative vote-squashing movements.<br><br>It seems that a nationwide, standardized method of registering to vote makes sense, and that's where the ID checks should take place. To demand various forms of ID at the polls -- while rejecting others -- is a method of disenfranchisement. And it seems to target people pretty much on the basis of their perceived likelihood to vote Democratic -- notice I said "perceived" -- which translates, to conservatives, as the poor, racial minorities, students, and the elderly. <br><br>ID'ing beer drinkers has one purpose: to keep "the wrong" people from buying and consuming alcohol -- that is, the underaged. Insisting on some forms of ID at the polls and rejecting others, when someone is listed as a registered voter, has, I believe, one purpose: to keep people from voting. The "wrong" people, that is.<br><br>Perhaps I'd feel differently if this nation didn't have such a shameful history of conservative vote-suppression. We've seen efforts like this before in answer to scare narratives from the Right. Does that give you any pause?<br><br><font style="" color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size:12pt" size="3"><font style="" face="Verdana">Keely<br>www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<br></font></font></font><br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> To: lfalen@turbonet.com; thansen@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com; kjajmix1@msn.com<br>> From: jborden@datawedge.com<br>> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 07:53:10 -0700<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NAACP to take vote laws to U.N.<br>> <br>> I have to provide a form of ID just to get a beer anywhere in this town.<br>> <br>> Doesn't seem too far-fetched to require a form of ID when choosing my government.<br>> <br>> Jay<br>> <br>> Sent from my Android phone... so ignore the typpos... <br>> <br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: keely emerinemix [kjajmix1@msn.com]<br>> Received: Sunday, 11 Mar 2012, 5:49pm<br>> To: lfalen@turbonet.com [lfalen@turbonet.com]; Tom Hansen [thansen@moscow.com]; vision2020@moscow.com [vision2020@moscow.com]<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NAACP to take vote laws to U.N.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Roger, you honestly make it sound as though election day is rife with rushing masses of thuggish and determined immigrants, outsiders, and criminals showing up at the polls like frat boys at a kegger, waving nothing more than Captain Crunch Secret Decoder Rings, Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Editions, and My Little Pony Sticker Albums as credentials while they overwhelm the Good People of our nation at the polls. While I'm sure the NAACP appreciates your support, I imagine they and the rest of us would be even more grateful if you were more discerning in assessing the quality of information you receive while rightly judging the credibility of those who offer it to you.<br>> <br>> Keely<br>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<br>> <br>> <br>> > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:32:17 -0700<br>> > From: lfalen@turbonet.com<br>> > To: thansen@moscow.com; Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NAACP to take vote laws to U.N.<br>> > <br>> > The NAACP has done a lot of good over the years to end racial discrimination and I applaud them for it. However there has to be some method to insure a person is a citizen and entitled to vote. Otherwise you might as well allow every one in the world to vote in our elections. I do not care what method is used to ensure this. If anyone has a better idea, other than an ID Card, lets hear it.<br>> > Roger<br>> > -----Original message-----<br>> > From: Tom Hansen thansen@moscow.com<br>> > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 06:48:05 -0700<br>> > To: Moscow Vision 2020 Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > Subject: [Vision2020] NAACP to take vote laws to U.N.<br>> > <br>> > > Courtesy of today's (March 12, 2012) Spokesman-Review.<br>> > > <br>> > > ------------------------------<br>> > > <br>> > > NAACP to take vote laws to U.N.<br>> > > WASHINGTON – Taking a page from its past, the NAACP will go before a United Nations panel in Switzerland this week to argue that new voting laws approved by some U.S. states violate civil and human rights by suppressing the votes of minorities and others.<br>> > > <br>> > > A delegation from the venerable civil rights organization will present its case in Geneva on Wednesday before the United Nations Human Rights Council, a body that normally addresses troubles in places such as Libya, Syria and the Ivory Coast.<br>> > > <br>> > > The Geneva appearance is part of an NAACP strategy rooted in the 1940s and 1950s, when the group looked to the United Nations and the international community for support in its domestic battle for civil rights for blacks and against lynching.<br>> > > <br>> > > “It was in 1947 that W.E.B. Du Bois delivered his speech and appealed to the world at the U.N.,” NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous said Thursday. “Now, like then, the principal concern is voting rights. The past year more states in this country have passed more laws pushing more voters out of the ballot box than any point since Jim Crow.”<br>> > > <br>> > > Supporters of the new laws say the action by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is a curious move, but one that isn’t likely to produce tangible results.<br>> > > <br>> > > “The NAACP can appeal to whatever body it chooses to – the UN. doesn’t run our elections,” said Catherine Engelbrecht, president of True the Vote, a tea party-founded anti-voter fraud group thats seeking to mobilize thousands of volunteers to work as poll watchers and to validate existing voter-registration lists.<br>> > > <br>> > > Jealous acknowledged that the Human Rights Council has no direct authority over American states, but he hopes that it can exert influence through public pressure.<br>> > > <br>> > > “The power of the U.N. on state governments historically is to shame them and to put pressure on the U.S. government to bring them into line with global standards for democracy, best practices for democracy, that’s where we are,” he said.<br>> > > <br>> > > “There are plenty of examples – segregation of the U.S. to apartheid in South Africa to the death penalty here in the U.S. – of global outrage having an impact.”<br>> > > <br>> > > Jealous said the U.N. panel will hear Wednesday from two Americans impacted by the new laws: a convicted felon who served her time and a University of Texas student who might not be able to vote this year because of a law approved by the state legislature requiring voters to show government-approved photo identification.<br>> > > <br>> > > Since last year, 15 states have passed new voting laws; currently 38 states, including some of those 15, are weighing legislation to require people to show government-approved photo identification or provide proof of citizenship before casting their ballots.<br>> > > <br>> > > Other changes adopted or under consideration by states include restricting voter registration drives by third-party groups such as the League of Women Voters and the NAACP; curtailing or eliminating early voting; doing away with same-day voter registration; and rescinding the right to vote of convicted felons who have served their time.<br>> > > <br>> > > Proponents of the new laws say they are needed to protect the integrity of the vote, to prevent illegal immigrants from casting ballots, and to clamp down on voter fraud, although several studies indicate that systemic voter fraud is negligible.<br>> > > <br>> > > The NAACP, civil liberties groups, voting experts and some lawmakers say the new laws smack of poll taxes and literacy tests – devices that in previous generations blocked blacks from voting.<br>> > > <br>> > > A study last year by New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice said the new laws “may sharply tilt the political terrain for the 2012 election” by restricting voting access to 5 million people most of them minority, elderly, young or low-income earners.<br>> > > <br>> > > States that have adopted new laws account for 171 electoral votes in 2012 or 63 percent of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency, the Brennan Center report said.<br>> > > <br>> > > The study also found that more than 21 million Americans don’t possess government-issued photo identification. The NAACP estimates that about 25 percent of African-Americans nationwide don’t possess the proper documentation to meet ID requirements.<br>> > > <br>> > > The Justice Department is scrutinizing some of the laws under Section 5 of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which requires approval of voting law changes in 16 mostly Southern states because they have histories of racial discrimination.<br>> > > <br>> > > The department’s Civil Rights Division rejected as discriminatory a South Carolina law requiring voters to show government-issued photo ID. The state filed a lawsuit last month against the Justice Department over its decision.<br>> > > <br>> > > The department is expected to make a determination on Texas’ voting law on Monday. Justice Department officials have filed court papers challenging Florida’s voting law changes.<br>> > > <br>> > > Opponents of the new laws have been waging a multifront battle either to get the measures killed or to prepare those potentially affected by the laws for what they will need to do to register and vote.<br>> > > <br>> > > The Congressional Black Caucus, for example, is scheduled to hold a symposium in May in Washington for a nationwide gathering of ministers to explain how the new laws could impact their efforts to mobilize parishioners to vote.<br>> > > <br>> > > CBC members also plan to conduct a multicity voter education tour in May, and some caucus members will launch voter education bus tours from the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C.<br>> > > <br>> > > But the NAACP’s Geneva journey takes the voting law battle in a different – but familiar – direction.<br>> > > <br>> > > After World War II revealed the atrocities of the white supremacist Nazi regime, the NAACP saw an opportunity to tell the international community about the unequal treatment of African-Americans in the U.S. In October 1947, the NAACP filed “An Appeal to the World” at the United Nations, penned mostly by Dubois.<br>> > > <br>> > > The U.N.’s Commission on Human Rights rejected the appeal in December 1947, but the NAACP’s New York office was flooded with requests from around the world for copies of the petition, according to a Stanford University timeline on the African-American civil rights struggle.<br>> > > <br>> > > Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., a civil rights movement veteran, said he doesnt know what type of reception the NAACP will receive in Geneva, but he applauds the organization for trying.<br>> > > <br>> > > “If this is what it takes to bring attention to what’s happening, and not just in the South, it’s probably what should be done, he said.<br>> > > <br>> > > ------------------------------<br>> > > <br>> > > Seeya round town, Moscow.<br>> > > <br>> > > Tom Hansen<br>> > > Moscow, Idaho<br>> > > <br>> > > "If not us, who?<br>> > > If not now, when?"<br>> > > <br>> > > - Unknown<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > <br>> > =======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br>> <br></div> </div></body>
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