<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I admit it. Feeding the trolls on this list is a guilty pleasure of mine. I can't recommend it to everyone, though.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Paul<br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Saundra Lund <v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Paul Rumelhart' <godshatter@yahoo.com>; 'Tom Hansen' <thansen@moscow.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> 'Moscow Vision 2020' <Vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 5, 2012 10:09 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Vision2020] "Hate speech at my US Post Office" (a letter)<br> </font> </div> <br>
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--></style><div><div class="yiv1527080836WordSection1"><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Oh, gosh, Paul – I’m glad to know you personally accept the “don’t feed the trolls” theory!!!</span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">We here on the Viz can count on you, then, to <b>not</b> feed the trolls that that periodically visit, yes?</span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Based on your repeated feeding of trolls (i.e., No
Weatherman), I thought surely you rejected the “don’t feed the trolls” idea.</span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Personally, I’ve found that those who retort, “don’t feed the trolls,” tend to be the worst offenders. They are all for “not feeding the trolls” until they decide they have something clever or witty or whatever to say, and then they start feeding, only to subsequently trot out, “don’t feed the trolls,” when they want <b>others</b> to be quiet. Like the example of David Satterlee’s courageous response to the public posting at his post office: you think “don’t feed the trolls” is better than speaking truth. Interesting!</span></div><div
class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Saundra</span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Moscow, ID</span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.</span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">~ Edmund Burke</span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:windowtext;"> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Rumelhart<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 04, 2012 3:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tom Hansen<br><b>Cc:</b> Moscow Vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] "Hate speech at my US Post Office"
(a letter)</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><br>I would have written "Don't feed the trolls" or "trolololol" on it. Or better yet, just laughed and ignored it. If you respond to trolls, the trolls win.<br><br>Paul<br><br>On 03/04/2012 06:30 AM, Tom Hansen wrote: </div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">Courtesy of The Salon at:</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">http://open.salon.com/blog/davidsatterlee/2012/03/02/hate_speech_at_my_us_post_office </div><div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">------------------------------</div></div><h2 style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline;outline-width:0px;"><span style="font-family:"serif";">Hate speech at my US Post Office</span></h2><div><div
class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">By David Satterlee of Dayton, Iowa</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">I found this posted on the information board at my US Post Office in Dayton, Iowa, 50530 on March 2, 2012. There were also three modified cartoons referring to President Obama, fried chicken, watermelon, and black salami. I thought that the cartoons were inappropriate and offensive to public decency; I removed them.</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">The threat letter seemed more personal, so I added my answer and left it there. I will transcribe the notes for your convenience.</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">The original message was: “What do you call 20,000
liberals in the bottom of the ocean? A good start. Liberalism is a mental disorder”</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">My answer reads: “Please, don’t just threaten me with drowning and post anonymous racist hate cartoons against our elected President in a US Post Office. Make your case, explain your issues, and give practical ideas for improvement… and please have the courage to sign your name. With sincere best wishes, Your neighbor, David Satterlee”</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">Frankly, I worry that the threat could get personal. It may already be personal: I’ve had an Obama 2012 poster in my front window for weeks.</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">Having lived in this small rural town for only two
years, I’m still a bit of an outsider. I’ve improved the old 1880s workman’s Victorian that we bought and joined the Lion’s Club until my social anxieties got too severe. I smile and speak kindly at every opportunity, and wrote a series of positive local feature articles for the Dayton Review until I had a stroke last year.</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">The editor of the Dayton Review has encouraged me to begin submitting an opinion column, which I can write from home without running all over to take interview notes. I plan to feature liberal ideas explained in terms and values that conservatives claim as their exclusive own.</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">It occurs to me that my openness may fan the flames among those who are prone to reflexive hate. I could just hide in the shadows,
cringing and hoping that no one will notice me or be mean to me. But, I am aware of the courage of those great souls who spoke out to end slavery, gain the vote for women, oppose the baron kings and their trusts, and march for civil rights.</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">As a child in school, I was raised in a particularly rigid, conservative, Christian faith. I remember how it was to be the object of hate, bullying, and abuse. I learned to run fast. No more. I’m going to stand fast. Bullies should be faced down. I’m tired of this shit and I’m not going to take it any more.</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">I’ve spent decades trying to figure out all the things I didn’t learn as a closed-minded conservative. I started with all the self-improvement and pop psychology books. I graduated to
social psychology, Eastern religions, and theories of human development. These past four years, I’ve concentrated on figuring out the difference between Republicans and Democrats. I came out of the process as a generally-tolerant, love-thy-neighbor, but still-evangelical liberal. But, I still can’t feel good about hate, disrespect, and bullying.</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">'nuf said.</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal">---------------</div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"><img id="yiv1527080836BE95CF30-5F7F-46F5-ACF2-BB9C96B32236" alt="image.jpeg" height="351" width="485" border="0"></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1527080836MsoNormal"
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