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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">To me, an organization is what it does, not what it lists as on a bulletin board. The Tea Party acts <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>aggressively</SPAN></SPAN> against gays, lesbians, <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1><SPAN>transgendered</SPAN></SPAN>, the poor and other minorities. Of course it isn't going to say that in its platform because it would be open to public attack and so would those that supported it. Actions speak louder than words. If someone tells me they don't hate me, but keeps punching me in the face, I don't believe it, regardless of their words. And even if I did believe you, it doesn't matter, because the effect is the same, a bloody nose to minorities in America because of the Tea Party. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">The only way to <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>positively</SPAN></SPAN> change America for its people, is to change the policies and laws so that everyone has a shot at getting wealthy. We have an <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>incredibly</SPAN></SPAN> shrieking middle class. We have a nation of laws and politicians that prevent the rich from becoming poor and the poor from becoming rich, with an ever increasing divide between the two. Our direction is economically <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1><SPAN>unsustainable</SPAN></SPAN>, undemocratic, anti-capitalistic and <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-2>anti-American</SPAN>. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND: white; RIGHT: auto" class=yiv757149131MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; RIGHT: auto"><BR><SPAN class=yiv757149131mark>Ok</SPAN>... you've provided a link to a Tea Party newsletter... which begins<BR>with a <SPAN class=yiv757149131mark>pre</SPAN>-amble of core Tea Party beliefs (which center around "stop<BR>spending, stop tramping the Constitution")....<BR><BR>... and continues on to list off the current Republican candidates with<BR>a short cheat-sheet on their stances on major issues: <SPAN class=yiv757149131mark>Healthcare</SPAN> and<BR>Entitlements, Education, Spending and Taxes, Immigration, Energy, and<BR>National Security.<BR><BR>There's one line item in there for "Rick Perry" for a category called<BR>"social", which lists he supports traditional marriage, and signed the<BR>Defense of Marriage Act... <BR><BR><BR>That's not even close to a smoking gun. If there's an "anti-gay" agenda<BR>in there, I must have
missed it.<BR><BR><BR>Jay<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Tom Hansen [<SPAN class=yiv757149131mark>mailto</SPAN>:<A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>] <BR>Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:32 PM<BR>To: Jay Borden<BR>Cc: Moscow Vision 2020<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Dedication to . . .<BR><BR>Are you sure about that, Mr. Borden?<BR><BR>http://www.teapartyboise.com/newsletter_12-21-2011.pdf<BR><BR><SPAN class=yiv757149131mark>Hmmm</SPAN>.<BR><BR><SPAN class=yiv757149131mark>Seeya</SPAN> later, Moscow.<BR><BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Post Falls, Idaho<BR><BR>"If not us, who?<BR>If not now, when?"<BR><BR>- Unknown<BR><BR><BR><BR>On Feb 14, 2012, at 13:24, "Jay Borden" <<A href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> Wait... you're suggesting that the Tea
Party is responsible for Idaho<BR>> not passing equal rights legislation?<BR>> <BR>> I think you're confusing the "Taxed Enough Already" splinter of the<BR>> Republican party with the "Religious Right" membership of the<BR>Republican<BR>> party.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Jay<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A><BR>> [<SPAN class=yiv757149131mark>mailto</SPAN>:<A href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>] On Behalf Of Tom Hansen<BR>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:53 PM<BR>> To: Moscow Vision 2020<BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] A Dedication to . . .<BR>> <BR>> . . . the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and <SPAN
class=yiv757149131mark>transgender</SPAN> citizens of the<BR>state<BR>> of Washington for a fight well fought . . . and won . . .<BR>> <BR>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Y9nYCcYbw<BR>> <BR>> Now, if only Idaho can wean itself from the Tea Party (undeniable<BR>proof<BR>> that pygmy three-toed sloths and chimpanzees do mate), perhaps we can<BR>> join the rest of this great nation in recognizing the 14<SPAN class=yiv757149131mark>th</SPAN> amendment<BR>to<BR>> the U.S. Constitution and applying it to all of our citizens.<BR>> <BR>> <SPAN class=yiv757149131mark>Seeya</SPAN> later, Moscow.<BR>> <BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Post Falls, Idaho<BR>> <BR>> "If not us, who?<BR>> If not now, when?"<BR>> <BR>> - Unknown<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> serving the communities of the <SPAN
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