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Yeah, if the judge doesn't disallow any mention of that jury's
right. Which is usually the case. <br>
<br>
Dave<br>
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On 02/12/2012 09:37 PM, Paul Rumelhart wrote:
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I would also like to add that juries have the ability to use
discretion through jury nullification.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On 02/12/2012 12:19 PM, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:
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<div dir="ltr"> Discretion runs through the system. Officers
have the discretion to charge or not charge those with whom
they come into contact.<br>
<br>
Prosecutors have the discretion to dismiss, deal down, or
proceed with the charges. Then they have the discretion to
recommend a variety of sentences.<br>
<br>
Judges can apply discretion with their sentences, except where
their discretion has been taken away from them by
legislatures.<br>
<br>
Think through what you guys are saying. You really want all
laws enforced, even those with which you disagree? So the laws
against fornication, adultery, sodomy, you want them applied?
The 18 year-old who has consensual sex with his underage
girlfriend is a rapist, right? Let's go after him. Or her, if
it's turned around, only she's a child molester not a rapist.<br>
<br>
Great thinking.<br>
<br>
Sunil<br>
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<hr id="stopSpelling">From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:07:48 -0800<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh?<br>
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<div>Although I strongly favor, and encourage, legalizing
marijuana, I also expect the local authorities to enforce
the law, even those laws with which I disagree. Otherwise
we live in a community of selective law enforcement; much
like the old saying goes . . .</div>
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<div>A law is only as strong as the people who enforce it!<br>
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<div>Seeya later, Moscow.</div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Post Falls, Idaho</div>
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<div>"If not us, who?</div>
<div>If not now, when?"</div>
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<div>- Unknown</div>
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On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:45, Donovan Arnold <<a
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wrote:<br>
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<div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">Janesta,</div>
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<div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">I expect police
officers to use due diligence and reasonable
discretion in the enforcement of the law. I expect
them to use their authority for the best possible
outcome of all parties involved. This was not done.
The only harm these teenagers were doing was to
themselves, if any at all. Therefore, your analogy
of using alcohol<span style=""> </span>while
driving a car and the distribution of firearms is a
fallacious one. Further, the penalty and life long
consequences for a minor in possession of alcohol is
far less reaching than that of a drug charge. </div>
<div> </div>
<div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">Secondly, I think
it an erroneous philosophy to expect and accept all
police officers to enforce all laws equally at all
times. What a horrible place any city would be if
they did that. We would all be in jail or broke from
fines, or both. </div>
<div> </div>
<div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">Laws should be used
to help people and society, not act like a hammer
smashing them. These teens cannot get a job now,
they cannot get grants or loans for college. They
will be dependants on their parents and society for
survival for a long time, only because they made the
decision to leave their dorm room and smoke a joint
in their car. Are they deserving of that kind of
punishment? Police Officers that use this kind of
power unyieldingly are not serving the better
interests of the public. </div>
<div> </div>
<div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">BTW, how are you
doing Janesta, I have not seen or heard from you in
a while? Are you working? Are you taking the snow
and cold well? I hope this email finds you in good
health and spirits. Please take care of yourself. </div>
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<div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">Donovan Arnold</div>
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style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
Janesta <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Dave <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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vision2020 <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:28 AM<br>
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Re: [Vision2020] Huh?<br>
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<div id="ecxyiv1595050896">Donovan,<br>
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I to, am for the legalization of marijuana.<br>
<br>
If these ADULTS under the age of 21 were reeking
of alcohol, and selling pints of vodka from the
trunk of their car, I imagine they would have
been arrested.<br>
<br>
If they were selling guns from the trunk of
their car? Arrested.<br>
<br>
My point is this- Marijuana is still illegal,
and until it is legalized, I expect the police
to arrest those breaking the law.<br>
<br>
Send me something to sign regarding the
legalization of marijuana. I'll be one of the
first to sign. <br>
<br>
Janesta<br>
Idaho Snow Bird<br>
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<div class="ecxyiv1595050896gmail_quote">On Sun,
Feb 12, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Donovan Arnold <span
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<div style=""
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think the actions of these police
officers was destructive to the
community and unproductive in stopping
marijuana usage. They should have used
this opportunity as a chance to save
three kids. Instead, they used the law
to destroy the lives of some kids and
let whoever is peddling marijuana and
possibly other drugs to them and other
kids to find more victims. The
University will lose about $120,000 in
tuition from these kids, the City
probably just as much, and they will
be felons on welfare instead of being
productive members of society with a
job. To me, as Sunil stated, this is a
bad drug policy. </div>
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vision2020 <<a
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bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:39
PM<br>
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A friend of mine was busted for
"frequenting a place where drugs
are <br>
used", in the public alley
between John's Alley and the
Coop. No drugs <br>
were found BTW, he tried to
fight it and lost.<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
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On 02/11/2012 07:52 AM, Moscow
Cares wrote:<br>
> Courtesy of the Public
Records section of today's
(February 11, 2012)
Moscow-Pullman Daily News.<br>
><br>
> --------------------<br>
><br>
> MOSCOW POLICE<br>
><br>
> Thursday<br>
><br>
> 11:41 p.m. - An 18-year-old
Moscow woman was arrested in the
parking lot of the University of
Idaho's Wallace Complex for
possession of marijuana with
intent to deliver after officers
on foot patrol allegedly
observed her and two men getting
into a vehicle and detecting the
odor of marijuana. Police seized
marijuana, $240, a scale,
rolling papers and a knife. The
19-year-old Moscow men were
cited for frequenting a place
where drugs are used.<br>
><br>
> --------------------<br>
><br>
> So, the "parking lot of the
University of Idaho's Wallace
Complex" is "a place where drugs
are used."<br>
><br>
> If the police want to
apprehend true frequenters of
places where drugs are used,
might I suggest the next Tea
Party caucus? I mean, take a
look at the Tea Party
membership, one of which sits on
our city council. Do you really
think they got that way without
drugs?<br>
><br>
> Seeya later, Moscow.<br>
><br>
> Tom Hansen<br>
> Post Falls, Idaho<br>
><br>
> "If not us, who?<br>
> If not now, when?"<br>
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> - Unknown<br>
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