<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Oops.</div><div><br></div><div>Wrong link.</div><div><br></div><div>Try this one . . .</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/idaho">http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/idaho</a></div><div> <br><div>Seeya later, Moscow.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Post Falls, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"If not us, who?</div><div>If not now, when?"</div><div><br></div><div>- Unknown</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:43, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>Hmmm.</div><div><br></div><div>Excellent point, Sunil.</div><div><br></div><div>You force me to retract, or at least modify, my statement.</div><div><br></div><div>I believe that there are literally thousands of law on the books nationwide that possess no validity. The reason for this, I believe, is due to the cost related to legislatively or judicially removing a law. The money, time, and effort necessary to remove a law can be circumvented simply by not enforcing it.</div><div><br></div><div>This, as you suggest, leaves the laws in the hands of those paid to enforce the law and prosecute those who violate it. Not that I ever intend to ride a horse down Main Street in Boston on Sunday in the near, or distant,future.</div><div><br></div><div>This creates, as the Brits say, a sticky wicket.</div><div><br></div><div>Just what laws are enforced?</div><div><br></div><div>I will, though, . . .</div><div><br></div><div>- avoid fishing from camelback in Boise,</div><div><br></div><div>- avoid being seen without a smile on my face in Pocatello, and</div><div><br></div><div>- If a police officer approaches my vehicle and suspects that my wife and I are engaging in sex, he must either honk, or flash his lights and wait for three minutes before approaching the car.</div><div><br></div><a href="http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/alabama"><a href="http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/alabama">http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/alabama</a></a></div><div><div> </div><div>OK?</div><div><br><div>Seeya later, Moscow.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Post Falls, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"If not us, who?</div><div>If not now, when?"</div><div><br></div><div>- Unknown</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:19, Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">
Discretion runs through the system. Officers have the discretion to charge or not charge those with whom they come into contact.<br><br>Prosecutors have the discretion to dismiss, deal down, or proceed with the charges. Then they have the discretion to recommend a variety of sentences.<br><br>Judges can apply discretion with their sentences, except where their discretion has been taken away from them by legislatures.<br><br>Think through what you guys are saying. You really want all laws enforced, even those with which you disagree? So the laws against fornication, adultery, sodomy, you want them applied? The 18 year-old who has consensual sex with his underage girlfriend is a rapist, right? Let's go after him. Or her, if it's turned around, only she's a child molester not a rapist.<br><br>Great thinking.<br><br>Sunil<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a></a><br>Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:07:48 -0800<br>To: <a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a></a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>; <a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com"></a><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com"></a><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com"><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com">tiedye@turbonet.com</a></a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh?<br><br><div>Although I strongly favor, and encourage, legalizing marijuana, I also expect the local authorities to enforce the law, even those laws with which I disagree. Otherwise we live in a community of selective law enforcement; much like the old saying goes . . .</div><div><br></div><div>A law is only as strong as the people who enforce it!<br><br><div>Seeya later, Moscow.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Post Falls, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"If not us, who?</div><div>If not now, when?"</div><div><br></div><div>- Unknown</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:45, Donovan Arnold <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>
</span></div><div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">Janesta,</div><div>
</div><div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">I expect police officers to use due diligence and reasonable
discretion in the enforcement of the law. I expect them to use their authority
for the best possible outcome of all parties involved. This was not done. The
only harm these teenagers were doing was to themselves, if any at all. Therefore,
your analogy of using alcohol<span style=""> </span>while
driving a car and the distribution of firearms is a fallacious one. Further,
the penalty and life long consequences for a minor in possession of alcohol is
far less reaching than that of a drug charge. </div><div>
</div><div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">Secondly, I think it an erroneous philosophy to expect and
accept all police officers to enforce all laws equally at all times. What a
horrible place any city would be if they did that. We would all be in jail or
broke from fines, or both. </div><div>
</div><div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">Laws should be used to help people and society, not act like
a hammer smashing them. These teens cannot get a job now, they cannot get grants
or loans for college. They will be dependants on their parents and society for
survival for a long time, only because they made the decision to leave their
dorm room and smoke a joint in their car. Are they deserving of that kind of
punishment? Police Officers that use this kind of power unyieldingly are not
serving the better interests of the public. </div><div>
</div><div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">BTW, how are you doing Janesta, I have not seen or heard
from you in a while? Are you working? Are you taking the snow and cold well? I
hope this email finds you in good health and spirits. Please take care of
yourself. </div><div>
</div><div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal">Donovan Arnold</div><div>
</div><div style="" class="ecxMsoNormal"> </div><div>
</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <div style="padding:0px;height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px" class="hr"></div> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Janesta <<a href="mailto:janesta@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:janesta@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:janesta@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:janesta@gmail.com">janesta@gmail.com</a></a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Donovan Arnold <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a></a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Dave <<a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com"></a><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com"></a><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com"><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com">tiedye@turbonet.com</a></a>>; vision2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:28 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Huh?<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="ecxyiv1595050896">Donovan,<br><br>I to, am for the legalization of marijuana.<br><br>If these ADULTS under the age of 21 were reeking of alcohol, and selling pints of vodka from the trunk of their car, I imagine they would have been arrested.<br>
<br>If they were selling guns from the trunk of their car? Arrested.<br><br>My point is this- Marijuana is still illegal, and until it is legalized, I expect the police to arrest those breaking the law.<br><br>Send me something to sign regarding the legalization of marijuana. I'll be one of the first to sign. <br>
<br>Janesta<br>Idaho Snow Bird<br><br><div class="ecxyiv1595050896gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Donovan Arnold <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"></a><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a></a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="ecxyiv1595050896gmail_quote"><div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>
</span></div><div style="" class="ecxyiv1595050896MsoNormal">I think the actions of these police officers was destructive
to the community and unproductive in stopping marijuana usage. They should have
used this opportunity as a chance to save three kids. Instead, they used the law
to destroy the lives of some kids and let whoever is peddling marijuana and
possibly other drugs to them and other kids to find more victims. The
University will lose about $120,000 in tuition from these kids, the City probably
just as much, and they will be felons on welfare instead of being productive
members of society with a job. To me, as Sunil stated, this is a bad drug
policy. </div><div>
</div><div style="" class="ecxyiv1595050896MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> <u></u></div><div>
</div><div style="" class="ecxyiv1595050896MsoNormal">Donovan Arnold</div><div>
</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <div style="padding:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px;min-height:0px">
</div> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Dave <<a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com"></a><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com"></a><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com"><a href="mailto:tiedye@turbonet.com">tiedye@turbonet.com</a></a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> vision2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:39 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Huh?<br> </font> </div><div><div class="ecxyiv1595050896h5"> <br>
A friend of mine was busted for "frequenting a place where drugs are <br>used", in the public alley between John's Alley and the Coop. No drugs <br>were found BTW, he tried to fight it and lost.<br><br>Dave<br>
<br><br>On 02/11/2012 07:52 AM, Moscow Cares wrote:<br>> Courtesy of the Public Records section of today's (February 11, 2012) Moscow-Pullman Daily News.<br>><br>> --------------------<br>><br>> MOSCOW POLICE<br>
><br>> Thursday<br>><br>> 11:41 p.m. - An 18-year-old Moscow woman was arrested in the parking lot of the University of Idaho's Wallace Complex for possession of marijuana with intent to deliver after officers on foot patrol allegedly observed her and two men getting into a vehicle and detecting the odor of marijuana. Police seized marijuana, $240, a scale, rolling papers and a knife. The 19-year-old Moscow men were cited for frequenting a place where drugs are used.<br>
><br>>
--------------------<br>><br>> So, the "parking lot of the University of Idaho's Wallace Complex" is "a place where drugs are used."<br>><br>> If the police want to apprehend true frequenters of places where drugs are used, might I suggest the next Tea Party caucus? I mean, take a look at the Tea Party membership, one of which sits on our city council. Do you really think they got that way without drugs?<br>
><br>> Seeya later, Moscow.<br>><br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Post Falls, Idaho<br>><br>> "If not us, who?<br>> If not now, when?"<br>><br>> - Unknown<br>><br>><br>><br>> =======================================================<br>
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