<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Fair enough<br><br><br></div><div><br>On Jan 4, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Donovan Arnold <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:18pt"><div><span>It was meant to be an ironic question, Joe. : ) But I don't have an beliefs, I just go with the facts as I see them. : P. </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Donovan Arnold</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 18pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Donovan Arnold <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Sue Hovey <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>>; "<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:51 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets health care<br> </font> <br>
<div id="yiv685769297">How can you have a belief without having a philosophy? So you're really asking, what is the logic in keeping beliefs?<br><br><div class="yiv685769297gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Donovan Arnold <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<span>Joe,</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>What's the logic in keeping Philosophy? </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Donovan Arnold</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 18pt;">
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</div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Sue Hovey <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 3, 2012 7:25 PM<div class="yiv685769297im"><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets health care<br>
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<div><div class="yiv685769297im">Not just the military would appreciate you Sue! <br><br>All of us in eduction -- especially higher ed -- are asked to do the same. Imagine the luck I'll have in raising money for Philosophy! Nonetheless, those are the cards with which we are dealt. I've always seen my challenge as trying to explain why Philosophy is relevant -- not that I've been successful at it yet. <br>
<br>Things have not changed too much. What is significant is the thought that we might lose philosophy if the public doesn't see it as relevant. That we've worked ourselves to that very point is worrisome. What next? The arts? Still, no more worrisome than other recent threats to education. <br>
<br>Best, Joe<br><br></div><div><div class="yiv685769297im">On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Sue Hovey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>My absolutely least favorite thing about being a teacher was raising all
that money to buy transportation for kids to go to activities such as Debate and
Knowledge Bowl, Future Problem Solving, etc. I got to be an expert, and
Moscow parents and school district patrons were very generous. Perhaps the
military could use my skills. </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="kjajmix1@msn.com" href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com"><span><span id="misspell-3" class="mark">keely</span></span> <span><span id="misspell-4" class="mark">emerinemix</span></span></a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:01 PM</div><div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="dickow@turbonet.com" href="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com">dickow@turbonet.com</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from vets
health care</div></div></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv685769297im"><div>I spent most of the 1970s sporting a pin that said "Wouldn't it be
a great day if schools had the money they needed and the Air Force had to hold a
bake sale to buy a new bomber?" A woman can dream, can't she?<br><br>No,
Paul -- The only answer isn't to cut spending. Cutting waste, bloat, and
fraud -- yes. But vital human services are just that, vital, and are part
of not just a social safety net, but a contract between taxpayers and the
government to whom they pay those taxes. To a large extent, infrastructure
maintenance and additions are, too. Cutting spending in areas and on
projects left wallowing because of the eight years of horror that was the Bush
administration -- eight years that took us from surplus to debt by waging two
wars while slashing tax revenues -- is penny wise and pound foolish.
Ronald Reagan, who raised taxes several times during his administration, also
took the richest Americans from a 70 percent income tax to a level half
that. No one wants to go to 70 percent again, but today's pledge-signing
GOP wants to give away the farm. No reasonable person believes that the
debt can be addressed without asking those who most benefit both from the
liberties preserved by those wars as well as from the tax policies currently in
hand to pay a reasonable percentage of their income. It seems beyond
belief that the GOP also believes that overseas profits made by U.S.
corporations should be off-limits as well. I'd love to slash welfare
programs and actually RAISE revenue -- that is, do away with policies that
coddle the <span><span id="misspell-5" class="mark">superwealthy</span></span> and spend wisely the revenue that that attracts.
But don't penalize veterans, students, the elderly, the sick, the unemployed and
the already-struggling. And don't "penalize" the rich -- just respect the
needs of the citizenry by asking that they do what the rest of us have to.
<br><br>Let's assume that good Americans ought to face taxation that's fair,
proportional, reasonable and brings in revenue that's spent wisely, building our
nation and not tearing down others. That would seem to be neither a
Democratic nor a Republican position -- just a solid, fair, strong and
pro-American one.<br><br><font color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size: 12pt;" size="3"><font face="Verdana">Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br>
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From: <a href="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:dickow@turbonet.com">dickow@turbonet.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012
12:27:30 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Budget cuts could slash $1B from
vets health care<br><br>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Another
solution is the take in more revenue to offset expenses. Since increased
taxation seems to be a dirty word, how about car washes and bake sales? We have
do it at the community level, in schools, etc, why not the Fed? <span><span id="misspell-6" class="mark">Shouldn</span></span>’t the
government have a <span><span id="misspell-7" class="mark">PayPal</span></span> ‘Donate Now’ button on their website?</span></div>
<div><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"></span> </div>
<div><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Bob
<span><span id="misspell-8" class="mark">Dickow</span></span>, troublemaker</span></div>
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<div><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">
<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<span><span id="misspell-9" class="mark">mailto</span></span>:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Paul <span><span id="misspell-10" class="mark">Rumelhart</span></span><br><br></span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div></div>
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<div style="background: white;"><span style="color: black;">The
simple fact is that we are spending more than we are taking in. The
simplest solution is to stop spending so much.</span></div></div>
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