<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>So you' re now suggesting that liberals are the only ones who suggest that Republicans are the only ones who break campaign promises? <br><br></div><div>Boy did I miss pointing out how absurd some of this conservative claptrap is!</div><div><br></div><div>But don't worry. Unlike Keely I'm not really back. Just having some fun before school starts.</div><div><br>On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:19 AM, "Jay Borden" <<a href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So… you’re now suggesting that Republicans are the only ones that break campaign promises? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m sure that with the tiniest of digging, anyone can find scores of examples across the board… and throughout history…. of politicians that didn’t fulfill their assurances to the public while on the campaign trail.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jay<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Tom Hansen [mailto:thansen@moscow.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> lfalen<br><b>Cc:</b> Jay Borden; Sunil Ramalingam; vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Mr. Paul's Discredited Campaign<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Roger Falen urges:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">"<span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">If you make a campaign promise, keep it."</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Ya mean like like the promise, made by the GOP in November '10, of jobs, Jobs, JOBS under a new Republican-majority House of Representatives, Mr. Falen?</span></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Seeya later, Moscow.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Spokane, Washington<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">"If not us, who?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If not now, when?"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Unknown<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:38 AM, lfalen <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Nethercurt was a conservatism state legislator from spokane. He campaigned on term limits, saying that he would only run for one term. He then changed his mind and ran for another term and was defeated. Rightly so. If you make a campaign promise, keep it. Helen Chenowith also campaigned on term liments. She quit when she said she would.<br>Roger<br>-----Original message-----<br>From: "Jay Borden" <a href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</a><br>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:13:46 -0800<br>To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Mr. Paul's Discredited Campaign<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">No, I don't recall George Nethercutt. (I Googled him to see if I could<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">learn more... but nothing really stands out as far as his record).<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Since (according to the interwebs) he was a Republican, I can only<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">assume that he rubbed left-leaning folks the wrong way in his<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">politics... perhaps under the guise of "term limits". <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">(If I'm missing something major (like he became infamous for driving the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">dodo bird to extinction or something), please send me more information<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">before the public lambasting begins). I only moved back here to Moscow<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">in 2005 ... so anything local at the time surrounding him I probably<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">missed.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Of course, the Achille's Heel in the "term limits" plan is that we would<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">have to take a potential politician at their word... I suppose my<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">larger point was that if we truly want a government that represents the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">people, then we *all* should set aside whatever individual<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">beliefs/agendas that we have and focus on that single issue: that a<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">representative cannot hold office for longer than X terms. Congeal<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">around THAT issue and get it done... and then we can return to our<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">megaload riots and NASCAR races.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Jay<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] On Behalf Of Sunil Ramalingam<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:02 PM<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Cc: vision 2020<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Mr. Paul's Discredited Campaign<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Jay,<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Remember George Nethercutt? He's a good reason not to apply your<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">standard. I think we'd better know all their positions before voting<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">them in because they say they're for term limits.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Sunil<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:02:49 -0800<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">From: <a href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">To: <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>; <a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">CC: <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Mr. Paul's Discredited Campaign<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">I've been a proponent of term limits for... well, forever. We limit the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">number of terms for our President, we need to limit the terms in our<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">House and Senate. Having people in office for *decades* does nothing<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">but consolidate power and invite corruption.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">If you *truly* want representation in America, we have to rotate through<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">our elected representatives... frequently. <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">To do this, Americans are going to have to put aside all other opinions<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">until this is achieved. Environment? Abortion? Taxes? Left-handed<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">dentists? All of these items need to be tabled, and the *one question*<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">that needs to be asked of a candidate is "Will you introduce and vote<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">for term limits?" It needs to be the *only* reason to vote for a<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">candidate, and until the goal is accomplished, it needs to be the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">*only*reason that a candidate is voted FOR.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">THEN, when term limits come to fruition... when our elected<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">representatives cannot stay in office and continue to consolidate power<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">and control... then we can dust off our beliefs and take them to a<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">government that is as elastic as the population it represents.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Jay<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 9:47 AM<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">To: Art Deco<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Cc: <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Mr. Paul's Discredited Campaign<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">If he does what I think he'll do if he gets into office, he'll veto<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">anything that he finds to be unconstitutional. This will, at the very<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">least, help stop abuses like the Patriot Act and increases in funding<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">for DHS. Even if Congress can come up with enough votes to override the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">veto, issues like this will suddenly be at the forefront of the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">"national conversation" about what's going on in government. For this<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">alone, I'd like to see him get in there.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Paul<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">On 12/30/2011 09:29 AM, Art Deco wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Rumelhart to the extent that things in this country [and<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">globally] are broken beyond the traditional politicians' ways of<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">repairing them. We need bold, realistic, non-poll-driven leaders who<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">can convince us to re-evaluate our situation, offer feasible solutions,<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">and to convince us to make the inevitable selfless sacrifices necessary.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Though not traditional, I do not think Ron Paul is one of those leaders.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">His view of the world and his positions are too simplistic for the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">complex, diverse, globally competitive world we live in. The latest<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">revelations have shown that his integrity does not rise above the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">minimum standard. The simplicity of his views are his main attraction<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">to many, but reality is the barricade to his views ever producing<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">workable solutions -- they would be even more disastrous than the messes<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">we now face.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">In addition, some of his views are so abhorrent and/or crackpotty that<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">he would not be likely to convince congress to implement them in the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">face of public opinion.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Having said that, I am unable to suggest any leader or group of leaders<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">that seem capable of fixing things. The best I can hope for is that we<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">elect the lesser of the evils, at least by a little, to struggle on.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">I'm glad I'm old and not likely to live too much longer. I don't not<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">want to see the result of where the world is heading and the foolishness<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">of those in power resisting what needs to be done to change that<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">direction.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">w.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">From: Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:54 AM<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Cc: vision 2020 <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Mr. Paul's Discredited Campaign<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Why doesn't the NYT address Paul's stances on foreign policy? On defense<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">spending?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Sunil<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:38:24 -0800<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">From: <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">To: <a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">CC: <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Mr. Paul's Discredited Campaign<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">I'm beginning to believe that Ron Paul is our only hope to stop the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">downslope this country is on. For example, the Transportation Security<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Administration just got an extra $7.85 billion in funding for 2012,<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">including several hundred million dollars of funding for whole body<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">imagers. This passed both the House and the Senate. Does anyone here<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">actually believe that terrorism is a personally actionable danger? Do<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">you change your behavior at all due to the threat? Do you think all the<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">security theater is worth the money?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div><div><span>=======================================================</span><br><span> List services made available by First Step Internet,</span><br><span> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.</span><br><span> <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a></span><br><span> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a></span><br><span>=======================================================</span></div></blockquote></body></html>