Very good point. And an indication of how we all can work together. Here is a program that likely would not have come from a progressive. Yet it won't serve all. And even if we think in purely economical terms, it would be best if we could find a way for all people to flourish.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Art Deco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><font face="Verdana">More shocking to my friends:</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana">When Reagan first proposed Workfare, I was totally
against it. Now I believe there are <b>some</b> Workfare
programs beneficial to the participants and the country in general.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana">Such programs need careful design and planning so as to
achieve the goals of producing people that can support or at least partially
support themselves and their families. Bur such programs are not for all
welfare recipients.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana">w.</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="kjajmix1@msn.com" href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com" target="_blank">keely emerinemix</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:09 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="thansen@moscow.com" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">Tom
Hansen</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Say What?</div></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Things are really in a bad way, Tom, when one of my least-favorite
politicians ever, Ronald Reagan, appears to be a paragon of rationality next to
his GOP comrades today.<br><br><font color="#8064a2"><font style="FONT-SIZE:12pt" size="3"><font face="Verdana">Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com" target="_blank">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br>
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From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Tue, 3
Jan 2012 14:06:04 -0800<br>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject:
[Vision2020] Say What?<br><br>
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<div><span style="LINE-HEIGHT:17px;FONT-FAMILY:'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:10px">
<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-LEFT:45px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:10px;MARGIN-LEFT:0px;FONT-SIZE:1.3em;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px">"…the
United states could be forced to default on its obligations for the first time
in its history.</p>
<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-LEFT:45px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:10px;MARGIN-LEFT:0px;FONT-SIZE:1.3em;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px">This
country now possesses the strongest credit in the world. The full consequence of
a default--or even the serious prospect of default--by the United States are
impossible to predict and awesome to contemplate….The risks, the costs, the
disruptions, and the incalculable damage lead me to but one conclusion: the
Senate must pass this legislation before the Congress adjourns."</p>
<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-LEFT:45px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:10px;MARGIN-LEFT:0px;FONT-SIZE:1.3em;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px"><br></p>
<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-LEFT:45px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:10px;MARGIN-LEFT:0px;FONT-SIZE:1.3em;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px">-
President Ronald Reagan in a letter (November 16, 1983) to then-Majority Leader
Senator Howard Baker</p>
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<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-LEFT:45px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:10px;MARGIN-LEFT:0px;FONT-SIZE:1.3em;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px"><a href="http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/Peter-Fenn/2011/05/19/reagan-explains-why-raising-the-debt-ceiling-is-necessary" target="_blank">http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/Peter-Fenn/2011/05/19/reagan-explains-why-raising-the-debt-ceiling-is-necessary</a><br>
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<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-LEFT:45px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:10px;MARGIN-LEFT:0px;FONT-SIZE:1.3em;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px"><br></p>
<p style="PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-LEFT:45px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:10px;MARGIN-LEFT:0px;FONT-SIZE:1.3em;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/r/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/05/14/National-Politics/Graphics/reagan_letter_0514.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/r/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/05/14/National-Politics/Graphics/reagan_letter_0514.pdf</a><br>
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<div>Seeya later, Moscow.</div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Spokane, Washington</div>
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