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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>First, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There have been lots of good comments & discussion since I was last on, so I’ll keep my comments brief now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What say I, Sunil? Well, even a stopped clock is right twice a day, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to use that clock to tell time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And, I absolutely agree with the crucial importance of due process. I suppose, though, that I’m jaded enough to have been extremely worried about the erosion of due process for a long time now . . . long before Obama was elected. Do you disagree, Sunil? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree with Ron Paul on some issues – including those you mentioned -- that’s what made me spend a lot of time learning about him way back when. For me, though, the issues with which I strongly disagree with him (I think some of his ideas are actually very, very dangerous) far outweigh the positions I find appealing; for others, that weighing process comes out differently. I <b>am</b> grateful, though, that through his candidacy, important topics like ending our wars, cutting the defense budget, etc., are being discussed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jay: I don’t think you were on V2020 back then, but the racist crap in Ron Paul’s newsletters came up here back in late 2007/early 2008 – it <b>isn’t</b> something that just came up/out because Paul was gaining traction in the polls. Thanks for the rephrasing of Paul’s email – it helped me to better understand the perspective. LOL – not that I agree with the perspective, just like I don’t agree with you about term limits as a litmus test. I continue to argue that for those who are the <b>targets</b> of discrimination, unequal protection under the law, and invasions of privacy – all of which I consider to be civil rights issues – and those who are keenly aware of those issues, they aren’t “theatrical” issues at all – they are <b>substantive</b> issues that really strike at the core of what it means to be Americans, perhaps far more than something like term limits.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sunil: I think you mentioned something about “silent blessings,” and I take exception to that characterization, assuming I correctly understood your point. I can’t speak for anyone here but myself, but none of our state or national elected politicians could characterize me as silent – I regularly write & call all of them letting them know what I think they’re doing right and wrong. Do they listen to me? Obviously not, but that doesn’t mean I’m not trying or giving them my silent blessings.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sunil Ramalingam<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:13 PM<br><b>Cc:</b> vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Let's for one moment assume that Paul is a racist. I'm not saying he is, just assume he is so that issue doesn't need to be discussed for a minute.<br><br>Is he wrong on ending our wars? Is he wrong on cutting the defense budget? Is he wrong about the Patriot Act? Is he wrong about the Executive Branch seizing powers it should not have?<br><br>What say you, Keely, Wayne, Saundra, Tom?<br><br>Sunil<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 17:20:01 -0800<br>From: <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism<br><br><br>He has admitted to putting out an investment newsletter that (as far as I can tell) was not one of the newsletters that printed the racist comments. It had all sorts of conspiracy theories about what will happen to people trying to deal in large amounts of cash, most of which have come true - just not in the way he thought. Try taking a large pile of cash through airport security and see how well that goes.<br><br>Another distraction attempt, supposedly a smoking gun, apparently succeeds in its goals. Or maybe this is just jumping on the bandwagon, since it is the Daily Mail, after all.<br><br>Paul<br><br>On 12/31/2011 04:44 PM, Art Deco wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>See:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078217/Ron-Paul-racist-homophobic-newsletters-Video-taking-credit.html" target="_blank" title="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078217/Ron-Paul-racist-homophobic-newsletters-Video-taking-credit.html
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+ Click to follow link">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078217/Ron-Paul-racist-homophobic-newsletters-Video-taking-credit.html</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Scroll down to see the videos of Paul Himself acknowledging the letters, etc.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>All javascript scripts must be allowed in order to see the whole article including the videos.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>w.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" title="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com
CTRL + Click to follow link">Paul Rumelhart</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:52 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com" title="kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Does it matter whether or not the allegations are true? Or do we just call them out anyway?<br><br>Here is an article from CBS News about the newsletters: <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57345702-503544/ron-paul-disavows-racist-newsletters-under-his-name/" target="_blank">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57345702-503544/ron-paul-disavows-racist-newsletters-under-his-name/</a><br><br>The article contains a quote by Ron Paul on the issue: <br><br>"When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product," he said. "For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name."<br><br>I'd hate to see the man dragged over the coals for something he might not have deserved solely because (for example) Jon Huntsman is losing to Ron Paul in New Hampshire and has staked his campaign on a strong showing there.<br><br>I got that last bit from this article: <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57349712-503544/huntsman-calls-ron-paul-unelectable-because-of-racist-newsletters/" target="_blank">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57349712-503544/huntsman-calls-ron-paul-unelectable-because-of-racist-newsletters/</a><br><br>And once again, this is only out there in order to distract us. These people could care less if it's even true. It's just convenient.<br><br>Paul<br><br>On 12/31/2011 02:44 PM, keely emerinemix wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I don't think you're defending racism, racist behavior, or even the wrongness of screaming "He's a racist!" at the slightest apparent provocation. That said, I think it's imperative that legitimate indications that an individual's views on race/gender/class/civil rights/culture are bigoted be called out, examined, and condemned -- and I believe that the text of Ron Paul's newsletters are an example. <br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#8064A2'>Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com" target="_blank">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a><br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=ecxstopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism<br>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:41:13 -0800<br>From: <a href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">kjajmix1@msn.com</a>; <a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m not *<b>defending</b>* racism, I’m commenting on the mere finger-pointing and accusations being so charged that it’s a nuclear weapon in a political arsenal. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s used as a tool for distraction, and hence, theatrics. (And, unless I missed the mark, perhaps Mr. Rumelhart’s point).</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Insert story of “crying wolf”.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jay</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:rgb(181,\00000d\00000a 196, 223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> keely emerinemix [<a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jay Borden; <a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Jay, I would rue the day that racist behavior and bigoted views become irrelevant in how we choose our leaders. There are issues that truly good people can disagree on; racism, however, is never the view of a "truly good person," and in fact ought to, by virtue of popular outcry, immediately make a pariah out of the one who embraces it.<br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#8064A2'>Keely<br><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com" target="_blank">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:17:33 -0800<br>From: <a href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would agree with Paul’s statement… but I would word it a bit differently to deflect some of the immediate hatred I’m sure will be heading my way.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would say that racism, like abortion and gay marriage are *<b>USED</b>* as theatrical issues. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s interesting as soon as any candidate becomes popular in the polls, some wild-card story gets tossed about dealing with one of these issues. Then it’s pressed as long as necessary until the candidate just “goes away”.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rick Perry (again, not a fan) was gaining traction… and then suddenly a story about “Niggerhead” surfaced. (He has since nearly imploded on his own, but that’s a separate issue).</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron Paul gains even more traction this time around in the polls… and suddenly some story connecting HIM to racisim surfaces. (I don’t recall anything coming up about this story 4 years ago when he was running for President).</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The topics themselves are extremely important… but the *<b>USE</b>* of these subjects has become nothing more than positioning and theatrical tools. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is your opponent getting too much positive attention? No problem… just toss out one of these venomous statements (who cares whether it’s true or not… just phrase it in the form of an “objective question” like Fox News does to avoid slander/libel)… and then sit back and watch the show.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Once some story making any of these accusations hits the public… it’s like kryptonite… and it’s used as such. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Jay</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color\00000d\00000a -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Saundra Lund<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In part, Paul wrote:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Racism, like abortion and gay marriage, are all "theatrical issues". They are issues that are tossed out to the American public like scraps to hungry dogs for them to fight over. While they are important in and of themselves, they are really meant to distract us from realizing that we have more power than we think we do.”</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes, I do suppose it’s a lot easier to look at issues like racism, abortion, and gay marriage as “theatrical issues” when you’re <b>not</b> the minority family unable to rent a home due to racism, and you’re <b>not</b> the 17-year-old incest victim forced to carry your granddaddy’s baby or risk death from a backdoor abortion, and you’re <b>not</b> the lesbian at risk of losing custody of your children born via IVF to your now-deceased 15 year partner because her family never “approved” of the non-marriage.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yuppers – I guess for some, it is a lot easier to take the position that those issues, while “important,” really are just “theatrical issues” when one isn’t the target, when one lacks of empathy . . . or when one lacks the sense God gave a billy goat.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not in <b>my</b> America. I agree with Sue’s comment, “</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>All rights and even some privileges should belong to all citizens” a</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>nd shouldn’t depend on where in the US one lives.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul also wrote:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>In my opinion we should concentrate on our civil liberties . . .”</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I guess I’m unclear as to how you define “civil liberties,” but reproductive freedom & gay marriage both fit into my definition of the right of privacy, which is an important US civil liberty.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra Lund</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Moscow, ID</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~ Edmund Burke</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color\00000d\00000a -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Rumelhart<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:0%\00000d\00000a white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>I sent this only to Sue, when I meant to send it to the list.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:0%\00000d\00000a white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:0%\00000d\00000a white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Paul</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:0%\00000d\00000a white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>----- Forwarded Message -----<br><b>From:</b> Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Sue Hovey <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:32 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] On Ron Paul and Racism</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=ecxyiv1626928393><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>It doesn't negate the evidence. For what it's worth, he claims that he didn't write those newsletters that were put out in his name. Like you've shown, a person can be compassionate and still be racist. Being racist is not a black and white thing, no pun intended. It's something that can change over a period of years. I grew up in a casually racist household, and had to unlearn much of that over the years, as did my parents. It's easy to fall into that trap when you grow up with it and everyone around you thinks the same thing. As society changed, so did those around me, and so did I.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:repeat\00000d\00000a scroll 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:repeat\00000d\00000a scroll 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>I've said this many times on the Viz: I'm not looking for Jesus Christ or Gandhi when I'm looking for a Presidential candidate to vote for. I want someone who will perform well in the job.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:repeat\00000d\00000a scroll 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:repeat\00000d\00000a scroll 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>So the question is, assuming he is some kind of die-hard racist from the sixties like he's being portrayed, is he going to deny blacks the right to vote or serve on juries?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:repeat\00000d\00000a scroll 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:repeat\00000d\00000a scroll 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Racism, like abortion and gay marriage, are all "theatrical issues". They are issues that are tossed out to the American public like scraps to hungry dogs for them to fight over. While they are important in and of themselves, they are really meant to distract us from realizing that we have more power than we think we do. In my opinion we should concentrate on our civil liberties, and in stopping the steady power buildup for the Executive branch that's been going on for years. That's far more dangerous to us in the short term than any of these hot button issues are. Like Sunil said in another post, it's all about priorities.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:repeat\00000d\00000a scroll 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:repeat\00000d\00000a scroll 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Paul</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:repeat\00000d\00000a scroll 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:0%\00000d\00000a 0% white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Sue Hovey <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 30, 2011 10:34 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] On Ron Paul and Racism</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=ecxyiv1626928393><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>It’s a lovely story, Paul. And a powerful instance of Ron Paul’s compassion, but how does it negate the evidence of his racism in those published reports? My Texas grandfather was a racist through and through, yet he performed kind and generous acts to the people he belittled, and to whom he would have denied the vote, the right to serve on juries (along with women) and most especially the right to sit up front in public transportation. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:none\00000d\00000a repeat scroll 0% 0%\00000d\00000a white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:none\00000d\00000a repeat scroll 0% 0%\00000d\00000a white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Sue H. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" title="godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul Rumelhart</a> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Friday, December 30, 2011 10:18 PM</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" title="vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> [Vision2020] On Ron Paul and Racism</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:0%\00000d\00000a 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Here is a video in response to allegations of racism being leveled at Ron Paul. It was made by "Revolution PAC", a "superPAC" whose sole purpose is to get Ron Paul elected. It's entitled "The Compassion of Dr. Ron Paul":</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>If we're going to attack Ron Paul with allegations of racism on the list, I thought it might be nice to see what his side has to say.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:scroll\00000d\00000a 0% 0% white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Paul</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:none\00000d\00000a repeat scroll 0% 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