Examples of bad arguments for a position are meaningless. Do you really think I can't find MORE bad arguments from the global warning deniers? There are lots of bad arguments from you and them that I could post. That would be funny too were the issue not so important. But it is a waste of time and an intellectual disservice for me to post them. There are bad arguments for God's existence, for falsehoods as well as truths. Give me a claim and I'll give you a bad argument simply by stating some irrelevant premises and putting a "therefore" before the conclusion. Bad arguments mean absolutely nothing and using them to make a point is just a form of irrational rhetoric. You can and should do better than that.<br>
<br>The real issue is whether there are any GOOD arguments on either side. What is your argument that human beings DON'T have an impact on climate? You don't have one. You just have criticisms of a view held by 90+% of scientists around the world. Your comments about this topic are and always have been intellectually irresponsible. That's not skepticism, that's dogmatism.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Paul Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I thought it was humorous. It also serves as an example of how
global warming alarmism can and does get out of control sometimes.
Or did 4.5 billion people die and I missed it?<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Paul</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 12/31/2011 07:50 PM, Joe Campbell wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Paul,<br>
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Will you stop posting this crap for Christ's sake. You don't know
what the f**k you are talking about. What "recent" prediction that
is viable would make such a broad predication about 2012. NONE.<br>
<br>
If beliefs should be totally based on evidence, then why not
criticize those who believe in Jesus Christ? Because the evidence
for global warming is so much more plausible than the evidence
that Christ has risen from the grave that it isn't funny.<br>
<br>
If belief in Christ gives us reason for belief that we can vote on
or belief that matters to general debate, so does pretty much
anything else. Rational discussion is pointless.<br>
<br>
Best, Joe<br>
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On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Paul Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>></span>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Here is a link I found
posted on a climate skeptic blog: <br>
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<a href="http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/01/08/01291.html" target="_blank">http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/01/08/01291.html</a><br>
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"Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global
Warming-related causes by 2012
<p><i>Hydrate hypothesis illuminates growing climate change
alarm</i></p>
<p>Compiled by John Stokes </p>
<p>A recent scientific theory called the "hydrate
hypothesis" says that historical global warming cycles
have been caused by a feedback loop, where melting
permafrost methane clathrates (also known as "hydrates")
spur local global warming, leading to further melting of
clathrates and bacterial growth."<br>
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<p><skip to the bottom><br>
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<p>"Over 4.5 billion people could die from Global Warming
related causes by 2012, as planet Earth accelarates into a
greed-driven horrific catastrophe."</p>
<br>
Apparently, 4.5 billion of us could die from global warming
before 2012, which is in about 6 and a half hours from now.
Be warned!<br>
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I hope that this is either a joke website, or just rampant
alarmism, because I, for one, don't want to die tonight.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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Paul<br>
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