<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:18pt"><div><span>Division of power is the reason we have state governments. </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Donovan Arnold</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 18pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Wayne Price <bear@moscow.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Saundra Lund <v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> vision2020@moscow.com <br> <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 31, 2011 1:23 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] For what it's worth ....... <span id="misspell-1" class="mark">Fw</span>: On Ron Paul and Racism<br> </font> <br>
<div id="yiv1273332553"><div>Question:<div><br></div><div>Then why even have states? If we did away with that layer of government, look at all the tax money it would save. Just let the National Government run government and that way everybody, no matter where they live in the US would be playing under the SAME set of rules. </div><div><br></div><div>Wayne</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 31, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Saundra Lund wrote:</div><br class="yiv1273332553Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; border-collapse: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="yiv1273332553Apple-style-span"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="yiv1273332553WordSection1"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">In part, Paul wrote:</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">“</span><span style="color: black;">Racism, like abortion and gay marriage, are all "theatrical issues". They are issues that are tossed out to the American public like scraps to hungry dogs for them to fight over. While they are important in and of themselves, they are really meant to distract us from realizing that we have more power than we think we do.”</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;
font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Yes, I do suppose it’s a lot easier to look at issues like racism, abortion, and gay marriage as “theatrical issues” when you’re<span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>not</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>the minority family unable to rent a home due to racism, and you’re<span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>not</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>the 17-year-old incest victim forced to carry your granddaddy’s baby or risk death from a backdoor abortion, and you’re<span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>not</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>the lesbian at risk of losing custody of your children born via <span id="misspell-3" class="mark">IVF</span>
to your now-deceased 15 year partner because her family never “approved” of the non-marriage.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><span id="misspell-4" class="mark">Yuppers</span> – I guess for some, it is a lot easier to take the position that those issues, while “important,” really are just “theatrical issues” when one <span id="misspell-5" class="mark">isn</span>’t the target, when one lacks of empathy . . . or when one lacks the sense God gave a billy goat.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size:
11pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Not in<span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>my</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>America. I agree with Sue’s comment, “</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">All rights and even some privileges should belong to all citizens” a</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><span id="misspell-6" class="mark">nd</span> <span id="misspell-7" class="mark">shouldn</span>’t depend on where in the US one lives.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;
font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Paul also wrote:</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">“</span><span style="color: black;">In my opinion we should concentrate on our civil liberties . . .”</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">I guess I’m unclear as to how you define “civil liberties,” but reproductive freedom
& gay marriage both fit into my definition of the right of privacy, which is an important US civil liberty.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Saundra Lund</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Moscow, ID</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">~ Edmund Burke</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;
font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]<span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Paul <span id="misspell-9" class="mark">Rumelhart</span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:37 AM<br><b>To:</b><span
class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Vision2020] <span id="misspell-10" class="mark">Fw</span>: On Ron Paul and Racism</span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;"> </div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;">I sent this only to Sue, when I meant to send it to the list.</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;
background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;">Paul</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">----- Forwarded Message -----<br><b>From:</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>Paul <span id="misspell-11" class="mark">Rumelhart</span> <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>To:</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sue <span id="misspell-12" class="mark">Hovey</span> <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:32 AM<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vision2020] On Ron Paul and Racism<br></span><span style="color: black;"><br><br></span></div><div id="yiv1273332553"><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;">It doesn't negate the evidence. For what it's worth, he claims that he didn't write those newsletters that were put out in his name. Like you've shown, a person can be compassionate and still be racist. Being racist is not a black and white thing, no pun intended. It's something that can change
over a period of years. I grew up in a casually racist household, and had to unlearn much of that over the years, as did my parents. It's easy to fall into that trap when you grow up with it and everyone around you thinks the same thing. As society changed, so did those around me, and so did I.</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;">I've said this many times on the Viz: I'm not looking for Jesus Christ or Gandhi when I'm looking for a Presidential candidate to vote for. I want someone who will perform well in the job.</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;">
</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;">So the question is, assuming he is some kind of die-hard racist from the sixties like he's being portrayed, is he going to deny blacks the right to vote or serve on juries?</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;">Racism, like abortion and gay marriage, are all "theatrical issues". They are issues that are tossed out to the American public like scraps to hungry dogs for them to fight over. While they are important in and of themselves, they are really meant to distract us from realizing that we have more power than we think we
do. In my opinion we should concentrate on our civil liberties, and in stopping the steady power buildup for the Executive branch that's been going on for years. That's far more dangerous to us in the short term than any of these hot button issues are. Like <span id="misspell-13" class="mark">Sunil</span> said in another post, it's all about priorities.</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;">Paul</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; text-align: center; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;
background-color: white;" class="yiv1273332553MsoNormal" align="center"><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;" class="yiv1273332553MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sue <span id="misspell-14" class="mark">Hovey</span> <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>><br><b>To:</b><span
class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>Paul <span id="misspell-15" class="mark">Rumelhart</span> <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, December 30, 2011 10:34 PM<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vision2020] On Ron Paul and Racism</span><span style="color: black;"></span></div><div id="yiv1273332553"><div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">It’s a lovely story, Paul. And a powerful instance of Ron Paul’s compassion, but how does it negate the evidence of
his racism in those published reports? My Texas grandfather was a racist through and through, yet he performed kind and generous acts to the people he belittled, and to whom he would have denied the vote, the right to serve on juries (along with women) and most especially the right to sit up front in public transportation. </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Sue H. </span></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size:
10pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" title="godshatter@yahoo.com" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul <span id="misspell-16" class="mark">Rumelhart</span></a></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Sent:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span
class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, December 30, 2011 10:18 PM</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">To:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);"><b><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Subject:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;
font-size: 10pt;"><span class="yiv1273332553Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Vision2020] On Ron Paul and Racism</span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;">Here is a video in response to allegations of racism being leveled at Ron Paul. It was made by "Revolution PAC", a "<span id="misspell-17" class="mark">superPAC</span>" whose sole purpose is to get Ron Paul elected. It's entitled "The Compassion of Dr. Ron Paul":</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;
font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;"><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4</a></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;">If we're going to attack Ron Paul with allegations of racism on the list, I thought it might be nice to see what his side has to say.</span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; font-family: serif; font-size: 12pt;
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