<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:18pt"><div><span>Due process may be important, but rarely it occurs.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Donovan Arnold</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 18pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 31, 2011
1:09 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism<br> </font> <br>
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I think the right to due process is perhaps the most important civil liberty; without it one can be either imprisoned or killed at the whim of the executive.<br><br>It turns out that is now the status quo here.<br><br>Sunil<br><br><div><div id="yiv994027321SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div>From: v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:03:06 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism<br><br>
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</style><div class="yiv994027321ecxWordSection1"><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">In part, Paul wrote:</span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">“</span><span style="color: black;">Racism, like abortion and gay marriage, are all "theatrical issues". They are issues that are tossed out to the American public like scraps to hungry dogs for them to fight over. While they are important in and of themselves, they are really meant to distract us from realizing that we have more power than we think we do.”</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"></span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Yes, I do suppose it’s a lot easier to
look at issues like racism, abortion, and gay marriage as “theatrical issues” when you’re <b>not</b> the minority family unable to rent a home due to racism, and you’re <b>not</b> the 17-year-old incest victim forced to carry your granddaddy’s baby or risk death from a backdoor abortion, and you’re <b>not</b> the lesbian at risk of losing custody of your children born via IVF to your now-deceased 15 year partner because her family never “approved” of the non-marriage.</span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Yuppers – I guess for some, it is a lot easier to take the position that those issues, while “important,” really are just “theatrical issues” when one isn’t the target, when one lacks of empathy . . . or when one lacks the sense God gave a billy
goat.</span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Not in <b>my</b> America. I agree with Sue’s comment, “</span><span>All rights and even some privileges should belong to all citizens” a</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">nd shouldn’t depend on where in the US one lives.</span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Paul also wrote:</span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">“</span><span style="color: black;">In my opinion we should concentrate on our civil liberties . . .”</span><span style="color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"></span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">I guess I’m unclear as to how you define “civil liberties,” but reproductive freedom & gay marriage both fit into my definition of the right of privacy, which is an important US civil liberty.</span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Saundra Lund</span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Moscow, ID</span></div><div
class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.</span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">~ Edmund Burke</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"></span></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Paul Rumelhart<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> vision2020@moscow.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">I sent this only to Sue, when I meant to send it to the list.</span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Paul</span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;">----- Forwarded Message -----<br><b>From:</b> Paul
Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Sue Hovey <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:32 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] On Ron Paul and Racism<br></span><span style="color: black;"><br><br></span></div><div id="yiv994027321ecxyiv1626928393"><div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">It doesn't negate the evidence. For what it's worth, he claims that he didn't write those newsletters that were put out in his name. Like you've shown, a person can be compassionate and still be racist. Being racist is not a black and white thing, no pun intended. It's something that can change over a period of
years. I grew up in a casually racist household, and had to unlearn much of that over the years, as did my parents. It's easy to fall into that trap when you grow up with it and everyone around you thinks the same thing. As society changed, so did those around me, and so did I.</span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">I've said this many times on the Viz: I'm not looking for Jesus Christ or Gandhi when I'm looking for a Presidential candidate to vote for. I want someone who will perform well in the job.</span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:
black;">So the question is, assuming he is some kind of die-hard racist from the sixties like he's being portrayed, is he going to deny blacks the right to vote or serve on juries?</span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Racism, like abortion and gay marriage, are all "theatrical issues". They are issues that are tossed out to the American public like scraps to hungry dogs for them to fight over. While they are important in and of themselves, they are really meant to distract us from realizing that we have more power than we think we do. In my opinion we should concentrate on our civil liberties, and in stopping the steady power buildup for the Executive branch that's been going on for years. That's far more dangerous to us in the
short term than any of these hot button issues are. Like Sunil said in another post, it's all about priorities.</span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Paul</span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white; text-align: center;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal" align="center"><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;"><div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div></span></div><div style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="color:
black; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;"> Sue Hovey <<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 30, 2011 10:34 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] On Ron Paul and Racism</span><span style="color: black;"></span></div><div id="yiv994027321ecxyiv1626928393"><div><div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">It’s a lovely story, Paul. And a powerful instance of Ron Paul’s compassion, but how does it negate the evidence of his racism in those published reports? My Texas grandfather was a racist through and through, yet he performed kind and generous
acts to the people he belittled, and to whom he would have denied the vote, the right to serve on juries (along with women) and most especially the right to sit up front in public transportation. </span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Sue H. </span></div></div><div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div style="background: whitesmoke;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;"> <a title="godshatter@yahoo.com" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul Rumelhart</a> </span></div></div><div><div style="background: whitesmoke;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;">Sent:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;"> Friday, December 30, 2011 10:18 PM</span></div></div><div><div style="background: whitesmoke;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;">To:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;"> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </span></div></div><div><div style="background: whitesmoke;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;">Subject:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;"> [Vision2020] On Ron Paul and Racism</span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="background:
white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Here is a video in response to allegations of racism being leveled at Ron Paul. It was made by "Revolution PAC", a "superPAC" whose sole purpose is to get Ron Paul elected. It's entitled "The Compassion of Dr. Ron Paul":</span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4</a></span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div
style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">If we're going to attack Ron Paul with allegations of racism on the list, I thought it might be nice to see what his side has to say.</span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Paul</span></div></div></div><div style="background: white; text-align: center;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal" align="center"><span style="color: black;"><div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div></span></div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv994027321ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color:
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