<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I admit that there are some of Ron Paul's concepts to which I agree, such as those mentioned by Sunil. However, those concepts are insufficient to attract my support when weighed against those concepts with which I disagree.</div><div><br></div><div>He is simply not the individual I want answering the 3:00 AM call in the White House.</div><div><br><div>Seeya later, Moscow.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Spokane, Washington</div><div><br></div><div>"If not us, who?</div><div>If not now, when?"</div><div><br></div><div>- Unknown</div></div><div><br>On Dec 31, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Sunil Ramalingam <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">
Let's for one moment assume that Paul is a racist. I'm not saying he is, just assume he is so that issue doesn't need to be discussed for a minute.<br><br>Is he wrong on ending our wars? Is he wrong on cutting the defense budget? Is he wrong about the Patriot Act? Is he wrong about the Executive Branch seizing powers it should not have?<br><br>What say you, Keely, Wayne, Saundra, Tom?<br><br>Sunil<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 17:20:01 -0800<br>From: <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a></a><br>To: <a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a></a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism<br><br>
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He has admitted to putting out an investment newsletter that (as far
as I can tell) was not one of the newsletters that printed the
racist comments. It had all sorts of conspiracy theories about what
will happen to people trying to deal in large amounts of cash, most
of which have come true - just not in the way he thought. Try
taking a large pile of cash through airport security and see how
well that goes.<br>
<br>
Another distraction attempt, supposedly a smoking gun, apparently
succeeds in its goals. Or maybe this is just jumping on the
bandwagon, since it is the Daily Mail, after all.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On 12/31/2011 04:44 PM, Art Deco wrote:
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">See:</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a title="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078217/Ron-Paul-racist-homophobic-newsletters-Video-taking-credit.html
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+ Click to follow link" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078217/Ron-Paul-racist-homophobic-newsletters-Video-taking-credit.html" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078217/Ron-Paul-racist-homophobic-newsletters-Video-taking-credit.html">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078217/Ron-Paul-racist-homophobic-newsletters-Video-taking-credit.html</a></a></font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">Scroll down to see the videos
of Paul Himself acknowledging the letters, etc.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">w.</font></div>
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a title="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul Rumelhart</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:52 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="kjajmix1@msn.com" href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely
emerinemix</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and
Racism</div>
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Does it matter whether or not the allegations are true? Or do we
just call them out anyway?<br>
<br>
Here is an article from CBS News about the newsletters: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57345702-503544/ron-paul-disavows-racist-newsletters-under-his-name/" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57345702-503544/ron-paul-disavows-racist-newsletters-under-his-name/">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57345702-503544/ron-paul-disavows-racist-newsletters-under-his-name/</a></a><br>
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The article contains a quote by Ron Paul on the issue: <br>
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"When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a
newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit.
Several writers contributed to the product," he said. "For over a
decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying
closer attention to what went out under my name."<br>
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I'd hate to see the man dragged over the coals for something he
might not have deserved solely because (for example) Jon Huntsman
is losing to Ron Paul in New Hampshire and has staked his campaign
on a strong showing there.<br>
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I got that last bit from this article: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57349712-503544/huntsman-calls-ron-paul-unelectable-because-of-racist-newsletters/" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57349712-503544/huntsman-calls-ron-paul-unelectable-because-of-racist-newsletters/">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57349712-503544/huntsman-calls-ron-paul-unelectable-because-of-racist-newsletters/</a></a><br>
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And once again, this is only out there in order to distract us.
These people could care less if it's even true. It's just
convenient.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On 12/31/2011 02:44 PM, keely emerinemix wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">I don't think you're defending racism, racist
behavior, or even the wrongness of screaming "He's a racist!"
at the slightest apparent provocation. That said, I think
it's imperative that legitimate indications that an
individual's views on race/gender/class/civil rights/culture
are bigoted be called out, examined, and condemned -- and I
believe that the text of Ron Paul's newsletters are an
example. <br>
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<font color="#8064a2"><font style="font-size:12pt" size="3"><font face="Verdana">Keely<br>
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<hr id="ecxstopSpelling"> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron
Paul and Racism<br>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:41:13 -0800<br>
From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com"><a href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</a></a><br>
To: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com"><a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">kjajmix1@msn.com</a></a>; <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm"><a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a></a>;
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size:11pt">I’m not *<b>defending</b>* racism,
I’m commenting on the mere finger-pointing and
accusations being so charged that it’s a nuclear
weapon in a political arsenal. </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size:11pt"></span> </p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size:11pt">It’s used as a tool for distraction,
and hence, theatrics. (And, unless I missed the mark,
perhaps Mr. Rumelhart’s point).</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size:11pt"></span> </p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size:11pt">Insert story of “crying wolf”.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size:11pt">Jay</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';font-size:10pt"> keely emerinemix [<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com"><a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com</a></a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jay Borden; <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm"><a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a></a>;
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul
and Racism</span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';font-size:10pt">Jay, I would rue the day that
racist behavior and bigoted views become irrelevant
in how we choose our leaders. There are issues that
truly good people can disagree on; racism, however,
is never the view of a "truly good person," and in
fact ought to, by virtue of popular outcry,
immediately make a pariah out of the one who
embraces it.<br>
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</span><span style="font-family:'Verdana','sans-serif';color:rgb(128, 100, 162)">Keely<br>
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com">www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</a></a><br>
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-0800<br>
From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com"><a href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</a></a><br>
To: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm"><a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a></a>;
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and
Racism</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:rgb(31, 73, 125);font-size:11pt">I would agree with Paul’s
statement… but I would word it a bit differently
to deflect some of the immediate hatred I’m sure
will be heading my way.</span><span style="font-family:'Tahoma','sans-serif';font-size:10pt"></span></p>
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