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Why doesn't the NYT address Paul's stances on foreign policy? On defense spending?<br><br>Sunil<br><br><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:38:24 -0800<br>From: godshatter@yahoo.com<br>To: deco@moscow.com<br>CC: Vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Mr. Paul’s Discredited Campaign<br><br>
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I'm beginning to believe that Ron Paul is our only hope to stop the
downslope this country is on. For example, the Transportation
Security Administration just got an extra $7.85 billion in funding
for 2012, including several hundred million dollars of funding for
whole body imagers. This passed both the House and the Senate.
Does anyone here actually believe that terrorism is a personally
actionable danger? Do you change your behavior at all due to the
threat? Do you think all the security theater is worth the money?<br>
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Ron Paul is about the only guy out there that votes against this
kind of crap. Pretty much everybody else, (R) or (D), votes it in.
All they seem to argue about is who is getting the pork.<br>
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As I see it, your choices are 1) the same old shit, but next year
having slipped even farther away from rationality or 2) this one
bat-shit crazy dude that might actually try to do something about
it.<br>
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One thing I've noticed this year is that Ron Paul is actually
getting press. There was a massive grassroots campaign for him the
last couple of elections, but nobody in the media would take him
seriously as an actual candidate.<br>
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The fact that they have started the smear campaign means that there
is actually a chance of getting him in office.<br>
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My advice? Don't vote for the person that looks like the most
responsible Dad, or the guy that looks like he's someone you could
have a beer with, or the one that looks like a he's a successful
lawyer. All of those guys are going to perpetuate the power grab
that has been going on for the last few decades.<br>
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Vote for the dude that puts the fear of God into the others. Vote
for the one that will work to decrease their power, not the others
that only want to increase it for personal gain.<br>
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Sure, he's a bag of mixed nuts sometimes. But he's the only one
with half a chance to shake things up a bit.<br>
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This should be a fun election year.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On 12/28/2011 11:35 AM, Art Deco wrote:
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<h1>Mr. Paul’s
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<font face="Verdana" size="2">Ron Paul long ago
disqualified himself for the presidency by peddling
claptrap proposals like abolishing the Federal Reserve,
returning to the gold standard, cutting a third of the
federal budget and all foreign aid and opposing the Civil
Rights Act of 1964. </font><BR>
<font face="Verdana" size="2">Now, making things worse, he
has failed to convincingly repudiate racist remarks that
were published under his name for years — or the
enthusiastic support he is getting from racist groups. </font><BR>
<font face="Verdana" size="2">Mr. Paul, a Republican
congressman from Texas who is doing particularly well in
Iowa’s precaucus polls, published several newsletters in
the ’80s and ’90s with names like the Ron Paul Survival
Report and the Ron Paul Political Report. The newsletters
interspersed libertarian political and investment
commentary with racial bigotry, anti-Semitism and
far-right paranoia. </font><BR>
<font face="Verdana" size="2">Among other offensive
statements, the newsletters said that <a title="McClatchey report" href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/12/22/v-print/133898/paul-walks-out-of-interview-over.html" target="_blank">95
percent of Washington’s black males were criminals</a>,
and they described the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s
birthday as “Hate Whitey Day.” One <a title="PDF of a newsletter" href="http://www.tnr.com/sites/default/files/January1993.pdf" target="_blank">1993
article</a> appeared under a headline lamenting the
country’s “disappearing white majority.” Other articles
suggested that the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence
service, was responsible for the 1993 World Trade Center
bombing, praised the Louisiana racist David Duke and
accused some gay men with AIDS of <a title="NYT report" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/politics/ron-paul-disowns-extremists-views-but-doesnt-disavow-the-support.html?ref=politics&pagewanted=all" target="_blank">deliberately
spreading the disease</a>, “perhaps out of a
pathological hatred.” </font><BR>
<font face="Verdana" size="2">A <a title="Reuters report" href="http://mobile.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE7BM03320111223" target="_blank">direct-mail
ad</a> for the newsletters from around 1993 warned of a
“coming race war in our big cities” and said there was a
“federal-homosexual cover-up” to suppress the impact of
AIDS. </font><BR>
<font face="Verdana" size="2">Mr. Paul, who, beginning in
2008, has disavowed the articles and their ideas, now says
that most of them were written by others and that he was
unaware of their content. Even if that were the case, it
suggests a stupendous level of negligence that should
force a reconsideration by anyone considering entrusting
him with the White House. </font><BR>
<font face="Verdana" size="2">When the newsletters first
became an issue during his Congressional campaigns in the
1990s, however, <a title="Slate
report" href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/12/26/fifteen_years_ago_ron_paul_wasn_t_claiming_somebody_else_wrote_his_newsletters.html" target="_blank">he
did not deny writing some of them</a> or knowing about
them. </font><BR>
<font face="Verdana" size="2">Mr. Paul has never given a
full and detailed accounting of who wrote the newsletters
and what his role was in overseeing their publication.
It’s especially important that he do so immediately. Those
writings have certainly not been forgotten by white
supremacist and militia groups that are promoting his
candidacy in Iowa and in New Hampshire. </font><BR>
<font face="Verdana" size="2">The Times <a title="NYT report" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/politics/ron-paul-disowns-extremists-views-but-doesnt-disavow-the-support.html" target="_blank">reported
on Sunday</a> that dozens of members of the white
nationalist Web site Stormfront are volunteering for the
Paul campaign, along with far-right militias, survivalists
and anti-Zionist groups. Don Black, the Stormfront
director, said his members were drawn to Mr. Paul by the
newsletters and his positions against immigration and the
Fed (run by Jews, Mr. Black said), even if Mr. Paul were
not himself a white nationalist. </font><BR>
<font face="Verdana" size="2">Mr. Paul, saying he still
hopes to “convert” these supporters to his views, has
refused to disavow them or to chase them out of his
campaign. If he does not do so, he will leave a lasting
stain on his candidacy, on the libertarian movement and,
very possibly, on the Iowa caucuses. </font><BR>
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