<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:18pt"><div><span>I see knee jerk <span id="misspell-0"><span>judgments</span></span> without all the facts.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>The problem here is that you don't know if she is married or not to the doctor who <span id="misspell-1"><span>owns</span></span> the house. If she is a poor immigrant with no job and two kids who is sleeping with a doctor or is the wife makes a big difference in the law and her personal situation, you don't know this. Lots of poor and homeless people sleep at wealthier people's homes. Lots of poor immigrants have wealthier boyfriends. </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Second, you can either spend a huge portion of your resources researching each of the 40 million people's real <span id="misspell-2"><span>assets</span></span> which 99.9% of
the time will end up empty handed, or you can spend it giving food and shelter to people that don't have any. Every dollar you spend researching someone is a dollar of food out of the mouth of some child or pregnant woman. You need to be sure your research is worth that loss. </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Donovan Arnold </span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 18pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Shirley Ringo <ringoshirl@moscow.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Sue Hovey
<suehovey@moscow.com>; Jay Borden <jborden@datawedge.com>; Moscow Cares <moscowcares@moscow.com>; Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 8, 2011 11:46 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Feds Dig Into Seattle Welfare Case<br> </font> <br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">This type of crime not only drains public dollars
that are desperately needed elsewhere. It gives an excuse to those who
would prefer not to help people in need to ask for severe cuts or elimination of
support that is essential.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">S</font></div>
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<div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b>
<a title="suehovey@moscow.com" href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</a>
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<div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="jborden@datawedge.com" href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">Jay Borden</a> ; <a title="moscowcares@moscow.com" href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">Moscow
Cares</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:32
PM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Feds Dig Into
Seattle Welfare Case</div>
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<div>I would say it’s cases like this that WARRANT careful evaluation of
applicants who seek help from these programs. To use a single example to
criticize a program which serves thousands is insufficient. </div>
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<div>Sue H. </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="jborden@datawedge.com" href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">Jay Borden</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:24 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="moscowcares@moscow.com" href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">Moscow Cares</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision
2020</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Feds Dig Into Seattle Welfare
Case</div></div></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>I
would say that it’s cases like this that WARRANT the criticism of these
programs. </span></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Jay</span><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'></span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Moscow
Cares<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 07, 2011 5:57 AM<br><b>To:</b>
Moscow Vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Feds Dig Into Seattle
Welfare Case</span></div></div></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">It's cases like this one that
cause unwarranted criticism of of programs that assist those pf us who so
desparately need a helping hand.</span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">Abusers of such public
assistance programs MUST be made an example of, as a warning to those
considering similar criminal activity.</span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">One can hardly imagine the
subsequent ridicule, here on the Viz, in response to this
article.</span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">Courtesy of <a href="http://King5.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">King5.com</a> (Seattle)
at:</span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal">http://www.king5.com/news/investigators/Waterfront-welfare-recipient-may-be-married-to-Seattle-chiropractor-135139633.html</div>
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<h1 style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style='color: rgb(0, 46, 100); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 21pt; font-weight: normal;'>Feds
dig deeper into waterfront welfare case</span></h1>
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<div style="line-height: 13.5pt;" class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span"><span style='color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;'>SEATTLE
-- Federal search warrants show what agents were after when they raided a Lake
Washington waterfront property last week while investigating a welfare
recipient living in a million dollar home.</span></span><span style='color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;'><br><br><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">This story generated outrage across the country after
KING 5 Investigator Chris Ingalls broke it last Friday. Since then, Ingalls
has received emails from taxpayers in Texas, Massachusetts and elsewhere who
are aghast.</span></span></div></div>
<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span"><span style='color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;'>The
government has been paying rent subsidies for Lyudmila Shimonova while she
lives in a $1.2 million Seattle home. She was truthful about her waterfront
address, which federal court records show she has lived at since
2003.</span></span><span style='color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;'><br><br><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">She's drawn $135,000 in housing subsidy payments --
taxpayer money that's supposed to put a roof over the heads of low-income
families. Shimonova also received federal and state cash assistance and food
stamps.</span><br><br><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">The government is trying to
get money back from Shimonova and the man it believes is her husband, Seattle
chiropractor David Silverstein, a chiropractor. Federal agents believe the two
are married, something she didn't report on her welfare
applications.</span><br><br><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">The KING 5
Investigators obtained a copy of the search warrant pertaining to last
Thursday's search of the 2,500 square-foot waterfront home. Agents seized a
"photo album of family and dog," "greeting cards (anniversary and birthday),"
and "2 postcards from Ruben to Mom and Dad." These are things agents might use
to try to prove the couple is married.</span><br><br><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">On the website for Dr. Silverstein's chiropractic
office he says he is "happily married with two children."</span><br><br><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">Local painter Michael Rotchadl is employed now after
spending five grueling months on food stamps. He can't believe someone who
appears to have so much would take from public programs for those who have
nothing.</span><br><br><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">"To find out that somebody
is living in a plush mansion on the waterfront, something that we'd all dream
to have, and they're doing it on the dime that is supposed to give food and
housing and assistance to those people who don’t have anything, it was just
gut wrenching," said Rotchadl.</span><br><br><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">Dr.
Silverstein's office was closed on Tuesday, and KING 5 hasn't been able to
reach either him or Shimonova for a comment. Neither of them is charged yet,
but the government has filed a lawsuit against them to recover some of the
lost money.</span><br><br><span class="yiv1656051598apple-style-span">Many have asked why it
took the government so long to find out Shimonova lived in a million dollar
home. One federal agent told KING 5 News it's a flaw that the government
doesn't do an address check, when there are many websites that show the
location of any address.</span></span></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal">Seeya round town, Moscow.</div></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal">Tom Hansen</div></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal">Moscow, Idaho</div></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal">"If not us, who?</div></div>
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<div class="yiv1656051598MsoNormal">If not now, when?"</div></div>
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