<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span><font size="2" face="Verdana">"When we elect (or appoint) someone to public office, we would like to be able to trust them -- to believe that they will try to do what they promise and to believe what they say, that they will not change their positions without reasonable and good cause, and when they do change their position, they will tell us truthfully why."--W. F.</font></span></div><div><span><font size="2" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div><div><span><font size="2" face="Verdana">If I were to line up people according to trustworthiness, I think elected officials would be somewhere on the tail end of that line. <var id="yui-ie-cursor"></var></font></span></div><div><span><font size="2" face="Verdana"></font></span> </div><div><span><font size="2" face="Verdana">Donovan
Arnold</font></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Art Deco <deco@moscow.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Vision2020@moscow.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 3, 2011 8:01 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Cain Quits<br> </font> <br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">If committing adultery is a disqualification for
running for public off, the about 2/3 of women and 3/4 to 4/5 men in the U.S.
could not run.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">I think, however, Darrell, your point about the
oath has some merit.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">When we elect (or appoint) someone to public
office, we would like to be able to trust them -- to believe that they will try
to do what they promise and to believe what they say, that they will not
change their positions without reasonable and good cause, and when they do
change their position, they will tell us truthfully why.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">However, in reality it is not that simple.
It's what you can trust public officials with that's
important.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">You've probably heard the following from the
stumper rancher's sayings of wisdom:</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">"You can trust him/her with your wife/husband,
but not your pocketbook." Or visa versa.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">"You can trust her/him with $10, but not with
$10,000." Or visa versa</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">In the scheme of things, size matters.
Adultery is is a small transgression compared to, for example, not
promoting the regulation of the financial industry in such a way so that it
can't almost bankrupt the country or rape the the average citizen, or going to a
war, expensive in human misery and costs in dollars, on knowingly very flimsy
evidence of WMDs.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">[As an aside, I notice that Mrs. Cain was
remarkable in the lack of enthusiasm she has shown for her husband the two
or three times that she has agreed to appear in public with him. Newt
Gingrich does not look like Dorian Gray, but he does look like the
portrait.]</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">Our country is hurting for honest, capable
leadership not beholden to any specific special interest. I am afraid that
I don't see any immediate solution to this problem.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">w.</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="mailto:keim153@gmail.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">Darrell Keim</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:55 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="deco@moscow.com" href="mailto:deco@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art
Deco</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com
CTRL + Click to follow link" href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Cain Quits</div></div></div>
<div><br></div>Timing. Gingrich infidelity is old news.
Gingrich was chock full of hypocrisy at the time! The man in the glass
house literally was throwing stones...<br><br>
<div class="yiv536376999gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Art Deco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">While I wouldn't vote for either of them, why
is adultery a deal breaker for Cain, but not for Gingrich?</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">For me, it's not the adultery, but the
hypocrisy of being a "family values" advocate while committing
adultery.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">w.</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="godshatter@yahoo.com" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul Rumelhart</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:39 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="keim153@gmail.com" href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:keim153@gmail.com">Darrell Keim</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>
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<div><br></div><br>I would think that we should be more concerned about how
well he is able to perform his job duties, first and foremost.<br><br>However,
if we want to talk about honesty and integrity then we shouldn't judge Cain
before we know for sure whether or not he actually committed adultery.
From what I've heard, she says he did and he says he didn't. Each one of
them has reason enough to lie about it. I'm not a Cain supporter, but I
hate to see someone driven from the race because of sex. As long as he
sticks to human beings old enough to legally consent to sex, I don't care what
he does in the bedroom.<br><br>Paul<br><br>On 12/03/2011 01:31 PM, Darrell
Keim wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">If he couldn't keep an oath to his wife, why should
we think he can keep the presidential oath?<br><br>
<div class="yiv536376999gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Moscow Cares <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">moscowcares@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>HONESTY . . . INTEGRITY . . . LOYALTY.</div>
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<div>Seeya round town, Moscow.</div>
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<div>Tom Hansen</div>
<div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
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<div>"If not us, who?</div>
<div>If not now, when?"</div>
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<div>- Unknown</div></div></div>
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<div><br>On Dec 3, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
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<div><br>Why do people look to the President as a model of family
values, anyway? The President doesn't affect much in that regard,
since the President doesn't author legislation. He's a public
servant doing a specific job. I no more care if he is unfaithful
to his significant other than I care if my local librarian is.
Which is not much, since it's not my business.<br><br>Paul<br><br>On
12/03/2011 11:10 AM, Nicholas Gier wrote:
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<div>Herman Cain announced on Saturday that he is suspending his
campaign for the Republican presidential nomination.</div>
<div>The news comes in the wake of Cain being accused of having an
extramarital affair and sexual harassment charges from more than a
decade ago resurfacing. The former CEO of Godfather's Pizza has
vehemently denied any wrongdoing amid the controversy. </div>
<div>On Saturday, Cain called the allegations "false" and said that they
have had a "tremendous" and "painful price" on his family. His wife,
Gloria Cain, stood behind him on stage as he spoke in their home stage
of Georgia. </div>
<div>Looking to the future, Cain told his supporters that he is now
turning to "Plan B," a new effort and website (<a href="http://TheCainSolutions.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TheCainSolutions.com</a>) working "to be a voice for the
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