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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Wow. Really? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So anyone that practices and advices fiscal prudence or owns any business is now responsible for or allied with the clowns that created this mess (both in the political and banking sectors), and ties them to that of an anarchist?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You’re level of insight continues to stun me. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not everyone that asks the simple question “can we afford this” is Bernie Madoff.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(And, by the way, I believe this is the PERFECT time to invest in domestic equities…)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jay<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Tom Hansen [mailto:thansen@moscow.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 02, 2011 12:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jay Borden<br><b>Cc:</b> Saundra Lund; Moscow Vision 2020; Penni Cyr<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jay Borden, who qualifies himself to be a practical fiscal conservative and a social liberal uttered:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"<span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I tend to lean much more towards the natural efficiencies inherent in a private enterprise."</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ya mean like those private enterprises on Wall Street that George W. bailed out; those same private enterprises that, shortly after the bailout, awarded their respective managers with multi-million dollar bonuses for doing such an excellent job?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>"Being a social liberal, it also means I don’t carry any of the baggage of any of the Christian-right… and I don’t carry a “Republican” moniker. In my experience, the differences between 'Republican' and 'Democrat' lie in the rate at which either party tends to grow government."</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yet, your loyalties, Mr. Borden, are allied with private enterprise ventures attempting to eliminate any/all government influence (unless, of course, THAT government influence concerns limitations applied to a woman's reproductive system).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I wouldn't be too quick to invest in any Birkenstocks quite yet, Mr. Borden.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875);-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Peace out, V-peeps.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Seeya round town, Moscow.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Moscow, Idaho<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"If not us, who?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If not now, when?"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Unknown<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:52 AM, "Jay Borden" <<a href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You’re right… I don’t know where my synapses recorded “summer” in the video… but I sure got “afternoons”.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As far as the “race” issue goes, it was from Rosemary’s response… I was giving a more generic “huh?” reply, and just tagged it onto your email… but even in your reply here you use the term “bigoted”… when I don’t get any sense of bigotry from the video clip.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For (whatever) record, I’m a PRACTICAL fiscal conservative and a social liberal. This means that if someone can demonstrate to me a value in spending money, I’m for it. I’m for “surgical” spending to solve a root problem. I’m not for “shotgun” spending to blanket a generic symptom. If it can be shown (or logically outlined) that a funding in one area results in equal or greater decreases in a different area, I’m all for it. When given a choice between problems being solved between private enterprise vs. public program, I tend to lean much more towards the natural efficiencies inherent in a private enterprise. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Being a social liberal, it also means I don’t carry any of the baggage of any of the Christian-right… and I don’t carry a “Republican” moniker. In my experience, the differences between “Republican” and “Democrat” lie in the rate at which either party tends to grow government. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As far as where the funding comes from? I don’t know… but if the idea has any merit, it warrants more discussion, not just immediate dismissal. It seems rather short-sighted to shoot it down just by calling the orator names or trying to find hidden meanings in (what seems to be) a straight-forward speech.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I find it interesting that a few (liberal?) folks posted up here the value they found in their childhood labor efforts… yet when some sort of program is suggested to provide some sort of jobs for kids, it’s suddenly worse than cancer.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Do schools close exactly at 3:00pm in the afternoon? Seems to me I (more often than not) stayed after school for a variety of after school activities (band, various club meetings, etc)… not to mention any number of (ahem) after-school detentions. Perhaps that’s changed in the past 25 years, and janitors get the entire school cleaned up by 3:01pm. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When I watch the video… all I see is a guy standing up there talking about an idea for after-school jobs program for kids. He throws two ideas off the top of his head (greeter and assistant janitor)… and talks about a reading program where kids are paid to read. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Programs that teach the kids the value of work I’m in favor of. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jay</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Saundra Lund [mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 02, 2011 11:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jay Borden; 'Tom Hansen'; 'Moscow Vision 2020'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Penni Cyr'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020] Say What?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes, Jay: <b>do</b> watch the video again because Nasty Newt said nothing about summers for his notion of paying “poor” kids to work in the schools, only about afternoons. The “early & practical” part was how young to start the “poor” students down that path.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Besides, it would be really difficult to pay “poor” children with “no work habit” to work in schools when schools aren’t open. Duh. I suspect some public school districts have found ways to continue to run summer schools, but my understanding is those programs have become few & far between over the last decade or so as funding has eroded. Perhaps someone with more current information could address that aspect.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And, I never said anything about race – where do you get that from my post??? I talked about the children from economically disadvantaged families . . . </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Since you’re a fiscal conservative, it’s interesting that you completely neglected to address the funding question. The money to pay anyone – even children – has to come from somewhere, and when schools don’t have money for textbooks or teachers or to repair unsafe schools, the funding issue seems to be something even Nasty Newt wants to avoid discussing, perhaps because he has no problem further gutting actual education to fund his bigoted idea.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes, the people <b>I</b> know would be recoiling in horror & disgust regardless of who made such bigoted comments.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But, then I guess you don’t find the assumption that children from “poor” families don’t have “work habits” and any clue about earning money “honestly” offensive.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bully for you.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jay Borden [mailto:jborden@datawedge.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 02, 2011 10:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> Saundra Lund; Tom Hansen; Moscow Vision 2020<br><b>Cc:</b> Penni Cyr<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020] Say What?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ok, I get it… folks here don’t like Newt Gingrich. (He’s not really on my Christmas list either)…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But unless I’m missing some larger context outside the video link… Gingrich never said or implied that academic time would be traded for work (in fact, he said something to the effect of “afternoons and summers” and “when practical/feasible” (but I’d have to watch the video again to get the exact phrase)… </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Gingrich never said (or implied) that this has anything to do with black kids vs. white kids vs. whatever race you want to inject into the issue…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>From what I can tell, this is a “speaking out loud” moment where New Gingrich is talking about ideas for after-school job programs for kids… </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It seems largely the folks that are balking at this speech are more sneering at the messenger than the idea… and letting the idea get muddled up the process. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Would folks be recoiling in horror and disgust if it were Bill Clinton that was up there uttering the same words?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jay</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]">[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Saundra Lund<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 02, 2011 10:09 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Tom Hansen'; 'Moscow Vision 2020'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Penni Cyr'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Say What?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I know I’m late adding my two cents & that some really great comments have already been made, but I’m absolutely stunned that at a time when virtually everyone with a brain understands that our children need more – not less – education, Nasty Newt apparently finds education so unimportant for children from economically challenged families that they can “afford” to lose academic time out of their school day to learn work habits.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And, I’m even more stunned that at a time when some have incessantly whined about the imaginary “class warfare” of the 99% against those morally bankrupt on Wall Street & in Big Business, those same folks aren’t complaining about Nasty Newt’s very real class warfare against the children from socio-economically disadvantaged families by advocating cutting their academic time. And, frankly, I don’t know what’s wrong with people who don’t find the grossly inaccurate stereotyping behind Nasty Newt’s “plan” absolutely disgusting.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I also found myself wondering where Nasty Newt thinks the money to pay for his brilliant <snort> idea would come from, particularly at a time when all too many schools lack funding for basics like textbooks, health & safety facilities repairs, etc.? I guess he thinks money must grow on trees to pay for his inane ideas.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Now, remind me again: which groups support class warfare???</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra Lund</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]">[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Hansen<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 01, 2011 6:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Moscow Vision 2020<br><b>Cc:</b> Penni Cyr<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Say What?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"A very poor neighborhood. You have kids that who are under law required to go to school. They have no money. They have no habit of work. What if you paid them part-time in the afternoon to sit in the clerical office, and greet people when they came in? What if you paid them to work as an assistant librarian? </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Let me get down to the janitor thing, and these letters are written that janitorial work is really hard and really dangerous and this and that. Fine. So what if they became assistant janitors and their job was to mop the floor and clean the bathroom. And you pay them."</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>- Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich (December 1, 2011)</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gsc9ElmJEs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gsc9ElmJEs</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-----------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Seeya round town, Moscow.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Moscow, Idaho<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>"If not us, who?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If not now, when?"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- Unknown<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>