<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>That does not substantiate Mr. Falen's implication.</div><div><br></div><div>Nowhere in your links does it claim that people are banned from eating rare hamburgers or banned from salt intake.</div><div><br></div><div>The links simply state that retailers will not SERVE rare hamburgers and that restaurants are regulated by the amount of salt contained in menu items.</div><div><br></div><div>I can legally, albeit ill-advised for health reasons, mash up a pound of raw (or rare) hamburger meat with a pound of salt and consume it all in ANY of the Nifty Fifty (states in the US of A) without fear of any adverse action taken against me by the government.<br><br><div>Seeya round town, Moscow.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"If not us, who?</div><div>If not now, when?"</div><div><br></div><div>- Unknown</div></div><div><br>On Nov 30, 2011, at 11:38 AM, "Jay Borden" <<a href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">North Carolina has banned hamburgers from being served rare…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/17/north-carolina-rare-burger-ban_n_861306.html"><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/17/north-carolina-rare-burger-ban_n_861306.html">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/17/north-carolina-rare-burger-ban_n_861306.html</a></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">New York City was moving forward on a plan to regulate the amount of salt contained in restaurant food… (don’t know how far they got)…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Science/New-York-leads-plan-to-cut-salt-intake-and-save-0.8m-lives"><a href="http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Science/New-York-leads-plan-to-cut-salt-intake-and-save-0.8m-lives">http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Science/New-York-leads-plan-to-cut-salt-intake-and-save-0.8m-lives</a></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That’s a cursory glance at how government regulates what people are eating… you could probably find more granular and specific examples if you wanted to dig further. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(Doesn’t the USDA oversee the entire federal school lunch program... I’m pretty sure they do).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jay</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Hansen<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> lfalen<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Should Legislation Protect the Obese?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Roger Falen's unsubstantiated implication . . .<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">"<span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">It is not right for any government to regulate what people eat."</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Question, Mr. Falen: Just how is your implication, that the government regulates what people eat, substantiated? Orissa this simply another "Because I said so" moment?</span></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Seeya round town, Moscow.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Moscow, Idaho<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">"If not us, who?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If not now, when?"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">- Unknown<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Nov 30, 2011, at 10:39 AM, lfalen <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com"><a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">There is some merit is a part of what you said. Government should prohibit false advertizing and it is legitimate to provide nutritional and health information. It is not right for any government to regulate what people eat. Just provide information and then it it up to the individual on what they do with that information.<br>Roger<br>-----Original message-----<br>From: Donovan Arnold <a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a></a><br>Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:36:15 -0800<br>To: Art Deco <a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a></a>, "<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>" <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Should Legislation Protect the Obese?<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I can say as someone that use to be morbidly obese before I lost 95 lbs, it comes down to education. So I think that people that are an unhealthy weight and want employers or the taxpayers to flip the bill for their medical expenses, should be required to take educational courses on diet, exercise, food, and nutrition. <o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Most people overweight don't want to be. It isn't just about will power or exercise. It is about knowing what to do to avoid losing the ability to resist bad choices and how to make good choices that lead to better choices later on. Approaching weight control as if you must resist food and force yourself to exercise is living a hellish nightmare that will only lead to psychiatric problems and eventual failure. That is the wrong way to change your life and your health. I am not within 25 lbs of my ideal weight instead of 120 because I am able to resist donuts. I am this weight now because I educated myself and kicked the addictions of smoking, drinking, soda, fast food, high fructose corn syrup, and I enjoy walking and doing things. I have a donut when the mood strikes me, but it doesn't strike me 10 times a day like it use to. <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Obese and all people do need protection from ignorance and the barrage of false claims about food and what is good and bad for you. Much of our food is drugged with chemicals to make you addicted to it. Much of our food also contains high fructrose corn syrup, which is sugar. Diet soda, even though it has 0 calories, can easily make a person gain 15-50lbs of excess weight and also cause high blood pressure and diabetes. People need proper education so they can live healthier lives. So yes, they need protection. They need protection from the government and advertisers that push addictive garbage and sugar as food. <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Donovan Arnold<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">From: Art Deco <<a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a></a>><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">To: <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a></a> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:34 AM<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Subject: [Vision2020] Should Legislation Protect the Obese?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Should Legislation Protect the Obese? <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">NY Times OP/ED <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/11/28/should-legislation-protect-obese-people/?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=thab1"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/11/28/should-legislation-protect-obese-people/?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=thab1">http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/11/28/should-legislation-protect-obese-people/?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=thab1</a></a> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Wayne A. 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