<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Jay,</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>If we use your definition of <span id="misspell-0"><span>adultery</span></span>, "<font color="#1f497d">adultery- voluntary <b>sexual intercourse</b> between a married person and someone other than his or her lawful spouse", then Clinton didn't commit perjury because he was not untruthful when he said he didn't have an affair, because he didn't have intercourse.</font></span></div><div><span><font color="#1f497d"></font></span> </div><div><span><font color="#1f497d">You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If you are going to go with a strict definition of <span id="misspell-0"><span>perjury</span></span> then you also must go with a strict definition of <span id="misspell-1"><span>adultery</span></span>. I go with a loose <span
id="misspell-1"><span>definition</span></span>. If you lie to a court of law, it is <span id="misspell-2"><span>perjury</span></span>. If you mess around with another person other than your spouse it is cheating. </font></span></div><div><span><font color="#1f497d"></font></span> </div><div><span><font color="#1f497d">What nobody seems to ask is, most importantly, should a man ever be forced to testify against his own penis? Certainly, if not all, most men would be in trouble with someone somewhere at some point in time if all were forced to do so. </font></span></div><div><span><font color="#1f497d"></font></span> </div><div><span><font color="#1f497d">Donovan Arnold</font></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px;
padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Jay Borden <jborden@datawedge.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>; Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com>; Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:06 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Vision2020] Herman Cain's Extra-Marital Relations<br> </font> <wbr>
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--></style><div><div class="yiv1222458136WordSection1"><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Ok… here is how adultery is not also perjury:</span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>(adultery- voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than his or her lawful spouse)</span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/adultery<span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'></span></div><div
class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>(perjury – the willfull giving of false testimony under oath or affirmation, before a competent tribunal, upon a point material to a legal inquiry).</span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/perjury</div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>The ethics behind *<b>who</b>* you lie to (and about what) is a separate discussion from the legal ramifications behind each.</span></div><div
class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Adultery may or may not be legal in all states, but that makes it a CRIME, just as PERJURY is a crime, but they are not the same thing.</span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Both Clinton and Gingrich committed acts of adultery, but only Clinton actually went the distance and lied about his affair under oath. That makes it perjury, and that carries (carried) separate consequences.</span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>(Arguably the aftermath between he and Hillary may have been worse than any impeachment… but that’s probably a different discussion…)</span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Jay</span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125);
font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jay Borden; Tom Hansen; Moscow Vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Herman Cain's Extra-Marital Relations</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Jay,</span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div
style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">How is adultery not also perjury? Does the person not attest to be honorable and faithful to another person in a legally binding act and sign a legal document recognized by the state and federal government? Any adulterer is lying to the court, their spouse and witnesses. Regardless of if you lie in bed with one or sit in a chair in front of twelve, it is still perjury. </span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Donovan Arnold</span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;"
class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><b><span style='color: black; font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span style='color: black; font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> Jay Borden <jborden@datawedge.com><br><b>To:</b> Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>; Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com>; Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:50 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020] Herman Cain's Extra-Marital Relations<br><br></span><span style="color: black;"></span></div><div id="yiv1222458136"><div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Well, I’m not really defending any of these clowns…</span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73,
125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>… but Gingrich lied while Clinton was guilty of perjury. Clinton wasn’t damned because of the affair, he was damned because he lied under oath.</span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>But… I’m just dredging up the same arguments that happened back in the 90’s.</span><span style="color:
black;"></span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Jay</span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none;
border-color: currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><b><span style='color: black; font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span style='color: black; font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Donovan Arnold<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tom Hansen; Moscow Vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Herman Cain's Extra-Marital Relations</span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">I think it is ironic that support shifted from Cain to Gingrich after it was released by the press that Cain had
several affairs when Gingrich also had affairs. Worse, Gingrich had an affair and left his wife while she was in the hospital. Gingrich also tried to impeach Clinton for lying about his affair while lying about his own. </span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Donovan Arnold</span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style="background: white; margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><b><span style='color: black; font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span style='color: black; font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com><br><b>To:</b>
Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:55 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Herman Cain's Extra-Marital Relations</span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div><div id="yiv1222458136"><div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Courtesy of the <span class="yiv1222458136mark">Borowitz</span> Report at:</span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">http://www.borowitzreport.com</span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color:
black;">------------------------------</span></div></div></div><div style="background: white; line-height: 25.5pt; margin-bottom: 2.25pt;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(1, 106, 170); font-size: 22.5pt;">Poll: 28% Think Cain Had Affair; 28% Don’t Think Cain Had Affair; 44% Having Affair with Cain Right Now</span><b><span style="color: black; font-size: 24pt;"></span></b></div><div style="background: white; line-height: 15pt; margin-bottom: 11.25pt;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(99, 96, 84); font-size: 13.5pt;">Millions of Exes Could Spell Trouble for Candidate</span><b><span style="color: black; font-size: 18pt;"></span></b></div><table style="margin-right: 15pt; margin-bottom: 10.5pt;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellPadding="0" align="left"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 0.75pt;" vAlign="top"><div class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><img alt="Image removed by sender." align="left"
src="cid:1.1793580213@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com" width="242" height="192"></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin-bottom: 11.25pt;"><div><div style="background: white; line-height: 12pt;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style='color: black; font-family: "sans-serif"; font-size: 10.5pt;'>MINNEAPOLIS – In a new poll of likely GOP voters, 28% think Herman Cain had an extramarital affair, 28% do not think he had an affair, and 44% are having an affair with Herman Cain right now.<br><br>Of the voters currently having sex with Mr. Cain, 52% called the relationship “special,” 38% called it “inappropriate,” and 10% agreed with the statement “I know I am Herman’s soul mate and someday we’ll be together.”<br><br>According to Davis <span class="yiv1222458136mark">Logsdon</span>, who conducted the poll for the University of Minnesota’s Opinion Research Institute, the numbers could spell trouble for the former pizza executive:
“There is no precedent for a successful White House run by a man with over ten million exes.”<br><br>In an interview with CNN’s Wolf <span class="yiv1222458136mark">Blitzer</span> today, Mr. Cain seemed to brush off the latest development, saying, “Now you know why I got your name wrong, Blitz – I have a lot of names to keep straight in my head.”<br><br>Mr. Cain added, "My message to the American people remains the same, and that message is, 'I told you not to call me here.'"<br><br>But later in the day Mr. Cain got a got a harsh scolding from Republican <span class="yiv1222458136mark">frontrunner</span> Newt Gingrich: “If Herman is in fact having sex with millions of Americans, he needs to do the right thing and marry them.”</span><span style="color: black;"></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color:
black;">------------------------------</span></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1222458136mark"><span style="color: black;">Seeya</span></span><span style="color: black;"> round town, Moscow.</span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Tom Hansen</span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">"If not us, who?</span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">If not now, when?"</span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="background: white;" class="yiv1222458136MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">-
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