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<DIV>Thanks. I’m reading it just now and am more than a bit appalled
anyone would use it as good evidence of proof of waste. And what a
stellar group who signed on to it: Bob Forrey, Darrell Deide, Marv
Hagedorn, Karen McGee, Ralph Smeed, Steve Symms and a host of others. If I
had to choose the one I most respect for her/his integrity, I’d probably take
Ralph Smeed, but he’s dead, so I’ll take Steve Symms. And I’m not among
the few who think of him as a paragon of virtue. So I must admit I
approached this report with a genuine bias, and Roger, I can’t imagine why in
the world you promoted it as good evidence of waste in govt. For
example:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>1. They faulted Health & Welfare for it’s failure to push enough
people out of Medicaid and for not knowing the number who go off each year. The
implication is there are a bunch of deadbeats getting these services when they
should be out fending for themselves. According to the group, Medicaid is
now a hammock, not a safety net. As one whose daughter has been a recipient of
Medicaid services for most of her life, I can attest to the fact that her status
is evaluated EVERY YEAR and an annual determination is made by Health &
Welfare. It’s true, it is no longer a safety net. There’s a hole of such
magnitude that disabled adults have two options: die quickly or be lucky
enough to have family financially able to care for them. Recipients have
lost medical services for glasses, hearing aides, counseling, assistive
devices—items many of them sorely need in order to live a productive life or to
keep them from harming themselves and others. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>2. In regard to the SCHIP Program—the one that provides health
insurance for poor children; the one the Idaho Legislature continues to defund,
despite its national record of success in providing medical help to poor
children. Here’s a quote that should make the group’s motives very clear,
“Additionally, experts who have studied SCHIP find little evidence that
providing government insurance to people improves health outcomes.” And
their “experts” who made this revelation—the same ones who wrote the
report. The link cited takes one back to the report website and offers no
other evidence. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>3. Fit and Fall Proof. This is an exercise program for seniors
and others who need it as a rehabilitation service. Gritman offers a
number of sessions at the Wellness Center. I’m in one. They are
really very helpful for those of us who, as we age, can benefit from exercise
which builds muscle strength and self confidence. Some of the literature I
just received indicates that Idaho seniors are injured in falls that require
medical care in higher numbers than the national average, so one might think it
would be a good service for the state to provide. The Freedom Foundation
doesn’t like it because it cuts into private sector alternatives, but really it
doesn’t. Some of us also have gym memberships, and many are are too physically
fragile to benefit from the machines a gym traditionally provides. The
report further states the program is a waste of money because there are more
falls now than before the program started. Maybe so, but those data are
from medical injury reports, not comparisons between folks in the program and
folks who aren’t. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>4. Childcare Programs. There is the quote that these programs
are “rife with abuse,” but no citations to indicate such is the case in
Idaho. Their claims fit right into the Idaho paradigm—don’t do anything to
help young children or their parents, because in Idaho the legislators over the
years repeatedly state, “young children should be at home with their
mothers.” So we don’t mandate kindergartens nor do we accept federal money
to improve early childhood education. Wish I could remember the name of the
legislator who told a young unemployed mother if she needed help she ought to,
“get right with her church.” </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>5. They use a lot of space discussing what they would call undeserved
perks earned by Idaho State Employees, HIgher Education Personnel, and Public
School Teachers. They’ve collected master agreements (which are now null
and void because of the new laws) and cherry picked the pieces that indicate to
them schools are simply rolling in money and their employees are stealing from
taxpayers in many unethical ways. One example from Ponderay School
District which was, until this year, fairly common in negotiated agreements, and
certainly a common business practice; that of allowing current employees to move
into new jobs as they come open, rather than advertise them publically.
But the group from the Idaho Freedom Foundation claims this is not only unfair,
but costly, because it takes “more qualified candidates who would cost the
district less, out of the picture.” It’s moot now, but if I as an employee
move into another position, that leaves my position vacant, and if both the
candidate and I qualified for the vacated position, it’s likely s/he qualifies
for the one I leave. But the Idaho Freedom Foundation can’t be bothered
with extrapolation. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There’s a lot more. And I suppose there are some compelling issues
concerning wasted resources, but taken as a whole, it’s disingenuous at best and
often supplies questionable and patently false evidence to support its
claims. It’s interesting reading though, because it appears to be
the current bible upon which the Governor, Legislators, Tom Luna, and
potentially local policy makers are positioning themselves. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jay and Tom, thanks for the link. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sue Hovey</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jborden@datawedge.com
href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">Jay Borden</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:23 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=suehovey@moscow.com
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Fw: Idaho Falls Post
Register</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Here’s
the link that goes directly to the .pdf file:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><A
href="http://opencda.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/4d28b5a3768b7.pdf.pdf">http://opencda.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/4d28b5a3768b7.pdf.pdf</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Jay</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
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<DIV
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Sue Hovey
[mailto:suehovey@moscow.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:32
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Jay Borden<BR><B>Cc:</B> Vision 2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Vision2020] Fw: Idaho Falls Post Register<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Jay, I don’t
want to get into the exchange here. It’s gone sideways for too long.
But what I would like to do is read the Idaho Pork Report. Do you have a
link? And no, I haven’t read all the emails, but I did read one which
indicated a problem with one that was given. Thanks for doing my work for
me. I want to see what they consider the pork in public education.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Sue H.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=jborden@datawedge.com href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">Jay Borden</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
Wednesday, November 02, 2011 8:04 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> ; <A
title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=Vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re:
[Vision2020] Fw: Idaho Falls Post
Register<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Wow…
just wow… <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; BACKGROUND: white; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">1)<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Would you care to provide any
data as far as how much money is lost due to “businesses that take government
money and flee the country”? I’ll never say never, (I’m a big fan of the
bell curve) but without any other data to go on, my gut tells me that it doesn’t
begin to hold a candle to general government waste. (I won’t even ask for
6 links… )<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; BACKGROUND: white; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">2)<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">By your reasoning (poo-pooing
the Pork Report (which, BTW, DOES provide references to where they found their
data), I would then assume that the education system is in tip-top shape, and
therefore has no places in which fraud, waste, or otherwise unnecessary spending
is occurring? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; BACKGROUND: white; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">3)<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Also by you reasoning, since
“Idaho doesn’t spend any money on health care”, all the fraud and wasted money
talked about in the report doesn’t actually exist? (Or, is it not actually
fraud since (you claim) no money is actually spent in that
category?)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">Jay<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday,
November 02, 2011 7:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Jay Borden; Tom Hansen<BR><B>Cc:</B>
lfalen; Art Deco; Vision 2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Idaho
Falls Post Register<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">Jay,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">You
wrote,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">"</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">
</SPAN><SPAN class=msid16980><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Didja
actually READ the “2011 Pork Report”? 1/3 of the report deals with education….
the other 2/3’s deal with health care and public renewal and public works
projects."</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=msid16980><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Oh
well, , yes, we certainly can call public health care pork too, can't we, I mean
who needs that? But the point is kinda moot since Idaho doesn't spend money on
public health care. </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">You are
also right about the government contracts, I looked on the Internet and there is
no evidence of government contracts with businesses going bad. All the
businesses that contract with the government are fully capable, don't lie, and
always finish well under what they quoted. And certainly, never ever, has a
business person completely made up the fact that they can produce something the
government needed, taken the millions of dollars, and fled the country. It would
never happen. Anyone that insists this is not that case definitely needs to
supply at least 6 links to verify their claims, otherwise, it is just hogwash to
believe such outlandish nonsense could happen. I am also one of those people
that need proof via some website for everything regardless of how ridiculous
taking the contrary side would sound to reason. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Donovan
Arnold<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Jay
Borden <jborden@datawedge.com><BR><B>To:</B> Tom Hansen
<thansen@moscow.com><BR><B>Cc:</B> Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>; lfalen <lfalen@turbonet.com>; Art
Deco <deco@moscow.com>; Vision 2020
<Vision2020@moscow.com><BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 2, 2011 6:41
PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Fw: Idaho Falls Post Register</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV id=yiv1796617459>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">You
have given a link for the DOD’s Contract division… I assume in the hopes that I
would do the leg work for you… which is exactly what you (and others) lambast
Roger for. </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
suggest one of the following:</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">1)</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Provide
the data requested to back up the statement.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">2)</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Recognize
that opinions that lack factual data aren’t fact… they’re just
OPINIONS.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Jay</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Tom
Hansen [mailto:thansen@moscow.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 02, 2011
5:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Jay Borden<BR><B>Cc:</B> Donovan Arnold; lfalen; Art Deco;
Vision 2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Idaho Falls Post
Register</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Mr.
Borden -<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Not ALL
contracts at the following link are success stories. The names Halliburton
and Blackwater come to mind.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">And
guess who pays the bills.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">http://www.defense.gov/Contracts/default.aspx<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Seeya
round town, Moscow.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Tom
Hansen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Moscow,
Idaho<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR>On
Nov 2, 2011, at 5:01 PM, "Jay Borden" <<A href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com"
target=_blank>jborden@datawedge.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">1)</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Where
are your facts and figures (and how common it is) about how much the
government loses on private businesses inability to fulfill government
contract obligations? </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">2)</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">A
consumer votes with their feet… if a business winds up passing their errors
onto to the customer, a customer is free to simply change vendors/providers
and take their business to a more efficient enterprise. </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">3)</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Didja
actually READ the “2011 Pork Report”? 1/3 of the report deals with
education…. the other 2/3’s deal with health care and public renewal and
public works projects. </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Jay</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Donovan
Arnold<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:56 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
lfalen; Art Deco; Vision 2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Idaho
Falls Post Register</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">Roger,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">In
addition to the trillion dollar bailouts the taxpayers all the time have to
pay for private business enterprises mistakes and inefficiencies. Businesses
bid on government contracts and cannot fulfill the obligation and the taxpayer
has to pay for it. This is common. And the consumer also has the costs of a
business's errors passed on to them in products and services.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">As to
the <I>Idaho Pork Report</I>, yeah, I guess if you are an Idaho Conservative
Republican you would think there is a lot of government waste if you believe
education has no real value. There are elementary, middle, and high schools in
just about every town, some with many of them.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">Donovan Arnold<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: white" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
lfalen <<A href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com"
target=_blank>lfalen@turbonet.com</A>><BR><B>To:</B> Art Deco <<A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com" target=_blank>deco@moscow.com</A>>; Vision
2020 <<A href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>Vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday,
November 2, 2011 11:51 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Idaho Falls
Post Register<BR></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR>I may have mistyped
something. If you are really interested do a search on the Idaho Pork
Report.<BR>Roger<BR>-----Original message-----<BR>From: "Art Deco" <A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com" target=_blank>deco@moscow.com</A><BR>Date: Tue,
01 Nov 2011 19:06:01 -0700<BR>To: "Vision 2020" <A
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>Vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Idaho
Falls Post Register<BR><BR>> This link is invalid.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> From: lfalen <BR>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 3:31
PM<BR>> To: Art Deco ; Vision 2020 <BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw:
Idaho Falls Post Register<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Check the Idaho Pork
Report. You can find it at <A
href="http://opencda.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/4d28b5aq3768b7.pdf.pdf"
target=_blank>opencda.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/4d28b5aq3768b7.pdf.pdf</A><BR>>
Roger<BR>> -----Original message-----<BR>> From: "Art Deco" <A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com" target=_blank>deco@moscow.com</A><BR>> Date:
Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:36:23 -0700<BR>> To: "Vision 2020" <A
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>Vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw:
Idaho Falls Post Register<BR>> <BR>> > Roger,<BR>> > <BR>>
> Tell us exactly where and exactly how much there are in those places of
"a lot of waste in state government and plenty of places cuts can be
made."<BR>> > <BR>> > If you cannot do this, then you are just
promulgating more Tea Bagger bullshit. You then are part of the problem,
but not part of the solution.<BR>> > <BR>> > w.<BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > From:
lfalen <BR>> > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:15 AM<BR>> > To:
Shirley Ringo ; Vision 2020 <BR>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Idaho
Falls Post Register<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > I think that
there is a lot of waste in state government and plenty of places cuts can be
made. I do not think that the care and treatment of the menally ill is one of
them.<BR>> > Roger<BR>> > -----Original message-----<BR>> >
From: "Shirley Ringo" <A href="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com"
target=_blank>ringoshirl@moscow.com</A><BR>> > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011
07:44:55 -0700<BR>> > To: "Vision 2020" <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> > Subject: [Vision2020] Fw:
Idaho Falls Post Register<BR>> > <BR>> > > <BR>> > >
Visionaries:<BR>> > > <BR>> > > The Idaho Legislature's
"cost containment" for Medicaid programs and help for those with disabilities
will prove to be anything but that.<BR>> > > <BR>> > >
Shirley<BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> >
> <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> >
> Idaho's ugly 'new normal'<BR>> > > <BR>> >
> Corey Taule<BR>> > > <BR>> > >
----------------------------------------------------------<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Ugly, sad and potentially tragic as it was, the
recent shootout between local law enforcement and Scott Daniel Parker wasn't
surprising. The 911 call from Parker's mother indicated her son was mentally
ill and in crisis. Unfortunately, we've been down that road before.<BR>>
> > <BR>> > > In September 2010, a mentally ill man shot
Ryan Mitchell in the back as he left a Pocatello coffee shop. The shooter,
Gerald Durk Simpson, had been told a few months earlier that because of budget
cuts, the state could no longer afford to treat his mental illness.<BR>>
> > <BR>> > > That jibed with what the State Planning
Council on Mental Health told Idaho's lawmakers in February 2010. Cutting
mental health funding, this panel of experts said, would result in three
things:<BR>> > > <BR>> > > - More suicides.<BR>>
> > <BR>> > > - More violent encounters between the
mentally ill and police.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > - More
mentally ill folks landing in emergency rooms.<BR>> > > <BR>> >
> A check with local law enforcement shows this panel knew what it
was talking about. Bonneville County Coroner Jonathan Walker said suicides and
attempts are up, something he attributes directly to a reduction in available
services.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Bonneville County Sheriff
Paul Wilde noticed his deputies were dealing more frequently with the mentally
ill. So, he checked the numbers. What Wilde discovered was startling. From
January to October of 2008, officers responded to 61 calls concerning
psychiatric episodes or suicide attempts. That same time period in 2009
resulted in 118 calls. That jumped to 139 last year. So far this year,
officers have responded to 256 calls.<BR>> > > <BR>> >
> Sometimes those calls result in arrests. A severely mentally ill
inmate needs to be segregated and watched constantly. Often, however, no
arrest is made. But for their own good, the person with mental illness needs
to be hospitalized.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Eight years
ago, a busy week for the Bonneville County Prosecutor's Office meant handling
one or two civil commitment cases. But when Bruce Pickett became prosecutor,
he noticed civil commitments were on the rise. So, he began tracking them. So
far this year, Bonneville County has averaged nearly four per week.<BR>>
> > <BR>> > > Each case must be judged by two
state-designated examiners. Because many of these folks are indigent,
taxpayers bear those costs, plus hospital and doctor's fees. The increase in
cases means the Behavioral Health Center often can't handle them all. Several
times this year, deputies have transported mentally ill folks who committed no
crimes to hospitals in Pocatello, Twin Falls and Boise. So, cutting budgets on
the front end is resulting in more expense -- not to mention a healthy dose of
human misery -- on the back end.<BR>> > > <BR>> > >
Jessica Hill isn't surprised. A licensed social worker, Hill said the agency
she works for has fewer clients because of budget cuts. The need for services,
however, has not gone down.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > But
Hill sees this from another perspective. She's also an Idaho Falls police
officer and SWAT team member. Too often, Hill said, officers encounter the
mentally ill in full crisis mode. Many of these folks, Hill said, tell police
they no longer qualify for services.<BR>> > > <BR>> >
> "I knew this was going to happen," Hill said. "It's not a surprise
to me whatsoever."<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Idaho Gov. C.L.
"Butch" Otter has overseen a massive reduction in state government, something
he describes as "the new normal."<BR>> > > <BR>> > >
Let's be clear, then, about what "the new normal" really looks like to those
who get to deal with the consequences of the politicians' numbers
crunching:<BR>> > > <BR>> > > - It looks like Gerald
Simpson, a man with no history of violence, opening fire on a
stranger.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > - It looks like Scott
Daniel Parker leaving the house armed with automatic weapons and mad as
hell.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > - It looks like the guy using
his own feces to draw pictures on jailhouse walls.<BR>> > > <BR>>
> > - It looks like the little old lady who once had a social
worker to help keep her on medications, but who now must go it alone.
Sometimes that works. Sometimes a sheriff's deputy wades through months of
accumulated garbage and animal waste in her living room so he can drive her to
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