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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">It isn't about changing the name, it is about using the correct name to show respect to people as you would wish to be treated or your own family and <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>heritage</SPAN></SPAN> to be treated. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">How difficult is that to really understand? It really is basic. You don't want anyone you care about to be called something that they feel is offensive and <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1 class=mark>innacurate</SPAN>, so don't do it to others. It is basic dignity and respect for your fellow humans. If this task is too complicated, you should seriously consider limiting your contact with others different from yourself. </SPAN></div>
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<DT class=yiv1910394299highlight><A href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=spic-and-span&allowed_in_frame=0" rel=nofollow target=_blank>spic-and-span</A> <A class=yiv1910394299dictionary title="Look up spic-and-span at Dictionary.com" href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=spic-and-span" rel=nofollow target=_blank><IMG title="Look up spic-and-span at Dictionary.com" alt="Look up spic-and-span at Dictionary.com" src="http://www.etymonline.com/graphics/dictionary.gif" width=16 height=16></A></DT>
<DD class=yiv1910394299highlight>1660s, from <SPAN class=yiv1910394299foreign><SPAN id=misspell-2 class=mark>spick</SPAN>-and-span-new</SPAN> (1570s), lit. "new as a recently made spike and chip of wood," from <SPAN class=yiv1910394299foreign><SPAN id=misspell-3 class=mark>spick</SPAN></SPAN> "nail" (see <A class=yiv1910394299crossreference href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=spike&allowed_in_frame=0" rel=nofollow target=_blank>spike</A> (n.1)) + <SPAN class=yiv1910394299foreign>span-new</SPAN> "very new" (c.1300), from O.N. <SPAN class=yiv1910394299foreign>span-<SPAN id=misspell-4 class=mark>nyr</SPAN></SPAN>, from <SPAN class=yiv1910394299foreign><SPAN id=misspell-5 class=mark>spann</SPAN></SPAN> "chip" + <SPAN class=yiv1910394299foreign><SPAN id=misspell-6 class=mark>nyr</SPAN></SPAN> "new." Imitation of Du. <SPAN class=yiv1910394299foreign><SPAN id=misspell-7 class=mark>spiksplinter</SPAN> <SPAN id=misspell-8
class=mark>nieuw</SPAN></SPAN> "spike-splinter new."</DD></DL>"Saltine crackers" are tasty; "white crackers" aren't. But, when I lived in Alabama, "cracker' was often used as a positive self-reference by rural whites who had been there a long time. In fact, "Cracker" was one of the mascot names considered by Florida State. They went with "Seminoles", a name heartily approved of by the tribe.<BR><BR>And, "Aunt Jemima" is now 21st century: <BR></DIV>
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<DD>The Aunt Jemima products continue to stand for warmth, nourishment and trust – qualities you’ll find in loving moms from diverse backgrounds who care for and want the very best for their families. http://www.auntjemima.com/aj_history/ <IMG alt=":) happy" src="http://mail.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo1.gif"></DD></DL>It's (mostly) in the context.<BR>
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<DIV class=yiv1910394299MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN id=misspell-10 class=mark>Ok</SPAN>… while we’re cleansing our vocabulary, let’s get rid of “Spic-N-Span”, Saltine Crackers, any references to rice or the color yellow, towels, any pictures or references to Aunt Jemima, the logo of “Land-o-Lakes Butter”, and “Gringo Killer” (at our local Sangria restaurant).</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv1910394299MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The smug guy on the front of “Quaker Oats” canisters also causes me to cringe.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv1910394299MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This was just off the top of my head.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv1910394299MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’m only <SPAN id=misspell-11 class=mark>luke</SPAN>-warm to Rick Perry… I do my typical quiet eye-roll when politicians get too preachy… but the article Rosemary Husky put forth, if taken at face value for the facts, basically <SPAN id=misspell-12 class=mark>doesn</SPAN>’t to a lot to crucify Rick Perry as a racist or bigot… even though the article(s) and LINKS make it sound like Rick Perry is leading a charge against the black community with the KKK protecting his flank… </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv1910394299MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Seems like a pretty small bandwagon to support that much weight.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv1910394299MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">On an unrelated note… I also think it’s interesting that in the past few emails, I’<SPAN id=misspell-15 class=mark>ve</SPAN> seen the word “fuck” and “shit” dropped without anyone saying a word (and I welcome the frankness, don’t get me wrong).</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv1910394299MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">But in that same light, we also have folks dancing around with ‘uses two ‘g’s to spell the words African descent’, and ‘s*****’ because they are so afraid of actually even saying the word “nigger” or “squaw”.</SPAN></DIV>
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holding his breath" Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49, Kenneth Marcy <<A href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com">kmmos1@frontier.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> On Monday, October 03, 2011 07:26:10 AM Paul <SPAN id=misspell-19 class=mark>Rumelhart</SPAN> wrote:<BR>>> It makes you wonder if someday descendants of the people murdered by an<BR>>> ancient East Germanic tribe when they sacked Rome and Carthage might<BR>>> someday look in horror upon a small college town in Idaho that had the<BR>>> gall to name their sports team after their killers.<BR>> <BR>> The biggest problem with the Vandals sacking Rome is that they didn't do it <BR>> often enough. It's too bad they didn't get to Nicaea and Constantinople in the <BR>> century and a quarter prior to the Roman sack, as that may have prevented a <BR>> lot of grief all
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