<div>That does put a funny picture in the mind, Tom. I can almost hear the Grateful Dead music playing in the background as people stand there. </div><div> </div><div> Let me assure you this is handled a little differently.</div>
<div> </div><div>PS-Feel free to call me Darrell.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;" class="gmail_quote"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Mr. Keim -</div><div>
<br></div><div>Your post kinda reminds me of my (much) younger days in LA when the Ventura County Sheriff's office would burn confiscated cannabis fields and we would gather (inconspicuously) downwind.</div><div><br></div>
<div>Those were the days, my friend. We thought they'd never end . . .</div><div><br><div>Seeya round town, Moscow.</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div> </div><div>
<br></div><div><br></div><div> </div></font></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:07, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Apropos to this discussion: Thru my work with the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, LCYAC, Moscows' Sustainable Environment Commission, and the MPD there is now a place to properly dispose of prescription drugs in Moscow. We have an anonymous drop box in the MPD front office. All drugs are incinerated.</div>
<div> </div><div>Why properly dispose of prescription drugs?</div><div>1. Leftover prescription drugs are frequently stolen and improperly used or re-sold.</div><div>2. Improperly disposing of leftover prescription drugs (flushing or throwing out) causes the chemicals to leach into our groundwater.</div>
<div> </div><div><br><br> </div><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Moscow Cares <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com" target="_blank">moscowcares@moscow.com</a>></a></span> wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Mr. Falen -</div><div><br></div><div>Exactly what is it about "Worst Pills, Best Pills" that makes you think that it is a "left wing group"?</div><div><br></div><div>It advertises itself as "Your expert, independent second opinion for prescription drug information".</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.worstpills.org/" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.worstpills.org/" target="_blank">http://www.worstpills.org/</a></a></div><div><br></div><div>Is it the free drug tips it provides?</div>
<a href="http://www.worstpills.org/includes/page.cfm?op_id=65" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.worstpills.org/includes/page.cfm?op_id=65" target="_blank">http://www.worstpills.org/includes/page.cfm?op_id=65</a><div>
<br></div><div>Perhaps it's the drug reviews, warnings, and suggestions of safer alternatives.</div><div><br></div><div>Which is it, Roger?<br><div><div><font size="4" face="Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 15px;"> </span></font></div>
<div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div></div><div><div></div><div><div><br>On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:29, lfalen <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" target="_blank">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></a></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Thanks Wayne</span><br><span></span><br><span>I don't know if you take it or not, but Worst Pill, Best Pill" put out by Public Citizen ( a left wing group) does a good job of pointing out these problems.</span><br>
<span>Roger</span><br><span></span><br><span>-----Original message-----</span><br><span>From: "Art Deco" <a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com" target="_blank">deco@moscow.com</a></a></span><br>
<span>Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:50:55 -0700</span><br>
<span>To: <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">Vision2020@moscow.com</a></a></span><br><span>Subject: [Vision2020] Eye Opener</span><br><span></span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Drugs, though legal, can be deadly </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span>By Lisa Girion, Scott Glover and Doug Smith </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Los Angeles Times </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>LOS ANGELES - Propelled by an increase in prescription narcotic overdoses, drug deaths now outnumber traffic fatalities in the United States, a Los Angeles Times analysis of government data has found.</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Drugs exceeded motor vehicle accidents as a cause of death in 2009, killing at least 37,485 people nationwide, according to preliminary data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>While most major causes of preventable death are declining, drugs are an exception. The death toll has doubled in the last decade, now claiming a life every 14 minutes. By contrast, traffic accidents have been dropping for decades because of huge investments in auto safety.</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Public health experts have used the comparison to draw </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><span>See DRUGS, A4 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><span>Article Continued Below</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>See DRUGS on Page A04</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
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</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>DRUGS</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Continued from A1 </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>attention to the nation's growing prescription drug problem, which they characterize as an epidemic. This is the first time that drugs have accounted for more fatalities than traffic accidents since the government started tracking druginduced deaths in 1979. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Fueling the surge in deaths are prescription pain and anxiety drugs that are potent, highly addictive and especially dangerous when combined with one another or with other drugs or alcohol. Among the most commonly abused are Oxy-Contin, Vicodin, Xanax and Soma. One relative newcomer to the scene is Fentanyl, a painkiller that comes in the form of patches and lollipops and is 100 times more powerful than morphine. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Such drugs now cause more deaths than heroin and cocaine combined. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"The problem is right here under our noses in our medicine cabinets," said Laz Salinas, a sheriff's commander in Santa Barbara, which has seen a dramatic rise in prescription drug deaths in recent years. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Range of victims </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Overdose victims range in age and circumstance from teenagers who pop pills to get a heroin-like high to middle-aged working men and women who take medications prescribed for strained backs and bum knees and become addicted. A review of hundreds of autopsy reports in Southern California reveals one tragic demise after another: A 19year-old Army recruit who had just passed his military physical took a handful of Xanax and painkillers while partying with friends. A groom, anxious over his upcoming wedding, overdosed on a cocktail of prescription drugs. A teenage honor student overdosed on painkillers her father left in his medicine cabinet from a surgery years earlier. A toddler was orphaned after both parents overdosed on prescription drugs months apart. A grandmother suffering from chronic back pain apparently forgot she'd already taken her daily regimen of pills and ended up double dosing. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Many died after failed attempts at rehab - or after using one too many times while contemplating quitting. </span><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Legal, but not so safe </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The seeds of the problem were planted more than a decade ago by well-meaning efforts by doctors to mitigate suffering, as well as aggressive sales campaigns by pharmaceutical manufacturers. In hindsight, the liberalized prescription of pain drugs "may in fact be the cause of the epidemic we're now facing," said Linda Rosenstock, dean of the University of California, Los Angeles School of Public Health. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In some ways, prescription drugs are more dangerous than illicit ones because users don't have their guard up, said Los Angeles County Sheriff's Sgt. Steve Opferman, head of a task force on prescription drug-related crimes. "People feel they are safer with prescription drugs because you get them from a pharmacy and they are prescribed by a doctor," Opferman said. "Younger people believe they are safer because they see their parents taking them. It doesn't have the same stigma as using street narcotics." </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The triumph of public health policies that have improved traffic safety over the years through the use of seat belts, air bags and other measures stands in stark contrast to the nation's record on prescription drugs. Even though more people are driving more miles, traffic fatalities have dropped by more than a third since the early 1970s to 36,284 in 2009. Drug-induced deaths had equaled or surpassed traffic fatalities in California, 22 other states and the District of Columbia even before the 2009 figures revealed the shift at the national level. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Keeping track </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention collects data on all causes of death each year and analyzes them to identify health problems. Drug-induced deaths are mostly accidental overdoses but also include suicides and fatal diseases caused by drugs. The CDC's 2009 statistics are the agency's most current. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Drug fatalities more than doubled among teens and young adults between 2000 and 2008. Deaths more than tripled among people aged 50 to 69, the Times analysis found. In terms of sheer numbers, the death toll is highest among people in their 40s. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Overdose deaths involving prescription painkillers, including OxyContin and Vicodin, and anti-anxiety drugs such as Valium and Xanax more than tripled between 2000 and 2008. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>'Insatiable appetite' </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">
<span>The rise in deaths corresponds with doctors prescribing more painkillers and anti-anxiety medications. The number of prescriptions for the strongest pain pills filled at California pharmacies, for instance, increased more than 43 percent since 2007 - and the doses grew by even more, nearly 50 percent. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Those prescriptions provide relief to pain sufferers but also fuel a thriving black market. Prescription drugs are traded on Internet chat rooms that buzz with offers of "vikes," "percs" and "oxys" for $10 to $80 a pill. They are sold on street corners along with heroin, marijuana and crack. An addiction to prescription drugs can be costly; a heavy Oxy-Contin habit can run twice as much as a heroin addiction, authorities say. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The most commonly abused prescription drug, hydrocodone, also is the most widely prescribed drug in America, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency. Better known as Vicodin, the pain reliever is prescribed more often than the top cholesterol drug and the top antibiotic. </span><br>
</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"We have an insatiable appetite for this drug - insatiable," Joseph T. Rannazzisi, a top DEA adminis-trator, told a group of pharmacists at a regulatory meeting in Sacramento. </span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>MCT </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy Grace Schmidt books evidence from an undercover prescription drug sting operation on a downtown Los Angeles street. </span><br>
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