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    I've never claimed to be Jesus Christ or Gandhi.  Of course I have
    issues of my own.<br>
    <br>
    I find climate change interesting.  I read up on it, and even write
    programs to graph data.  I'm always doing projects like that, not
    all of them tied to issues on this list.  It's what I do.  My
    opinion differs from the norm on climate change, so when someone
    posts something about it I often disagree.  Sometimes I like to
    respond as if it were a public mailing list.  <br>
    <br>
    Why does everyone think that I'm always being dismissive,
    condescending, or patronizing?  I'm just having a conversation.  I'm
    not trying to score points or beat my viewpoint into others.  When
    someone responds, I reply if I have something to say.<br>
    <br>
    Paul<br>
    <br>
    On 09/14/2011 10:39 AM, Saundra Lund wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Paul wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">“</span>In my personal opinion, some people on
          this list should question whether or not they are obsessing
          too much about these people.”<span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Do you mean “obsessing” as in your obsession to
            respond to virtually all climate change posts with which you
            disagree?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Or, do you mean “obsessing” as in the expertise
            some list members (including yourself) have pursued to learn
            about climate change, mega-loads, child sexual abuse, etc.?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Or, do you mean “obsessing” as in people not
            willing to accept your opinion on any particular topic as
            gospel as evidenced by offering opinions/experiences
            different than your own???<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">One person’s obsession is another’s passion, you
            know.  Personally, I’m grateful we have longer term
            community members on the Viz who value community history. 
            There are some who’d like us to forget about things like
            SSAIW & religiously motivated local laws pushed by their
            own personal lobbyists actually on the city council &
            board of county commissioners . . . and that unsuccessfully
            tried to run stealth anti-public education candidates for
            the school board.  There are some who’d like us to forget
            the role of certain local religious factions in Proposition
            8 & in boycotting “immoral” local businesses so they can
            whine with phony “righteous indignation” when individuals
            choose not to patronize their businesses.  And, there are
            some who’d like us to forget all about certain local
            churches that have been caught dead to rights – and more
            than once -- violating the conditions of their tax exemption
            status by partisan politicking from the pulpit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">And, there are certainly local (as well as state
            & national) politicians on both sides of the aisle who’d
            like us to forget their campaign promises . . . and lies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Your “obsessing” comment is yet another in a long
            line of examples of your dismissive, condescending, and
            patronizing jabs at those who disagree with you.  You’re not
            the only one, of course, but you – as are others – are
            pretty consistent about it.  You might do well to pay more
            attention to the plank in your own eye than to the speck you
            perceive in the eyes of others.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">In my personal opinion, of course  </span><span
            style="font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">J</span><span
            style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Ha – and the subject line actually still fits!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Saundra<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">Moscow, ID<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
            is for good people to do nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">~ Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
            "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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