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I've never claimed to be Jesus Christ or Gandhi. Of course I have
issues of my own.<br>
<br>
I find climate change interesting. I read up on it, and even write
programs to graph data. I'm always doing projects like that, not
all of them tied to issues on this list. It's what I do. My
opinion differs from the norm on climate change, so when someone
posts something about it I often disagree. Sometimes I like to
respond as if it were a public mailing list. <br>
<br>
Why does everyone think that I'm always being dismissive,
condescending, or patronizing? I'm just having a conversation. I'm
not trying to score points or beat my viewpoint into others. When
someone responds, I reply if I have something to say.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
On 09/14/2011 10:39 AM, Saundra Lund wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Paul wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">“</span>In my personal opinion, some people on
this list should question whether or not they are obsessing
too much about these people.”<span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Do you mean “obsessing” as in your obsession to
respond to virtually all climate change posts with which you
disagree?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Or, do you mean “obsessing” as in the expertise
some list members (including yourself) have pursued to learn
about climate change, mega-loads, child sexual abuse, etc.?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Or, do you mean “obsessing” as in people not
willing to accept your opinion on any particular topic as
gospel as evidenced by offering opinions/experiences
different than your own???<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">One person’s obsession is another’s passion, you
know. Personally, I’m grateful we have longer term
community members on the Viz who value community history.
There are some who’d like us to forget about things like
SSAIW & religiously motivated local laws pushed by their
own personal lobbyists actually on the city council &
board of county commissioners . . . and that unsuccessfully
tried to run stealth anti-public education candidates for
the school board. There are some who’d like us to forget
the role of certain local religious factions in Proposition
8 & in boycotting “immoral” local businesses so they can
whine with phony “righteous indignation” when individuals
choose not to patronize their businesses. And, there are
some who’d like us to forget all about certain local
churches that have been caught dead to rights – and more
than once -- violating the conditions of their tax exemption
status by partisan politicking from the pulpit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">And, there are certainly local (as well as state
& national) politicians on both sides of the aisle who’d
like us to forget their campaign promises . . . and lies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Your “obsessing” comment is yet another in a long
line of examples of your dismissive, condescending, and
patronizing jabs at those who disagree with you. You’re not
the only one, of course, but you – as are others – are
pretty consistent about it. You might do well to pay more
attention to the plank in your own eye than to the speck you
perceive in the eyes of others.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">In my personal opinion, of course </span><span
style="font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">J</span><span
style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Ha – and the subject line actually still fits!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Saundra<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Moscow, ID<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
is for good people to do nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">~ Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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