<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">"Nothing is different for them. <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN id=misspell-0><SPAN id=misspell-0>Walmart</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>, Target, and any other business can happily move their products down the State highway as long as they go through the process of securing the proper permits."--Paul</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Well, that certainly is news to me and millions of others with a <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1>commercial </SPAN></SPAN>drivers license. Please, Paul, enlighten us as to this "process o<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>f securing the proper permits" to drive hundreds of loads grossly overweight and <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-2><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-2><SPAN>oversize</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>d across the entire northern half of Idaho. We all stand to make a fortune if we can do this too, not to mention we won't have to stop at all those damn weight stations. </SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto">On 09/05/2011 07:05 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote: </SPAN></div>
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto" id=yiv945652337>Nothing is different for them. <SPAN id=misspell-6><SPAN id=misspell-6>Walmart</SPAN></SPAN>, Target, and any other business can happily move their products down the State highway as long as they go through the process of securing the proper permits.<BR><BR>I'm of the opinion that Lucifer himself should be allowed to move <SPAN id=misspell-7><SPAN id=misspell-7>megaloads</SPAN></SPAN> down the State highway as long as he secures the proper permits and isn't violating any laws. I don't know about Loki, though. He is a trickster god, after all. You can't really trust him, but you can't really deny him the permits either. Just keep a close eye on him, I guess.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>On 09/05/2011 07:05 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN>I don't think people are protesting the company, just their destructive behavior as is evidenced by the protesting not <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-0><SPAN>occurring</SPAN></SPAN> at any of the <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-1><SPAN id=misspell-8><SPAN id=misspell-8>ExxonMobil</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> gas stations or their other products elsewhere in the community. The only rules that have changed are the ones that <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-2><SPAN id=misspell-9><SPAN id=misspell-9>ExxonMobil</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> made for themselves and nobody else to be able to ship products at a weight and size deemed unsafe. Honestly, why is it safe for <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-3><SPAN id=misspell-10><SPAN id=misspell-10>ExxonMobil</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> to move this size cargo and not <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-4><SPAN id=misspell-11><SPAN id=misspell-11>Walmart</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>, Target, and other business passing through? It would save
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2 face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Paul Rumelhart <A class=yiv945652337moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><godshatter@yahoo.com></A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Donovan Arnold <A class=yiv945652337moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> "Gier, Nicholas" <A class=yiv945652337moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:NGIER@uidaho.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:NGIER@uidaho.edu"><NGIER@uidaho.edu></A>; Moscow Vision 2020 <A class=yiv945652337moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><Vision2020@moscow.com></A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 5, 2011 8:39 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020] who pays for <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-7><SPAN id=misspell-14><SPAN id=misspell-14>Megaload</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> cops?<BR></FONT><BR>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto" id=yiv945652337><BR>Hey, they're not my favorite company, either. However, the rules don't change based on how much we like them.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>On 09/04/2011 10:38 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN>Yeah, poor Exxon Mobile. They seem to always be getting the short end of the deal because nobody likes them. All they have to comfort and console them is the 100s of billions they make <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-0>every</SPAN> year from cheating and <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-1><SPAN>exploiting</SPAN></SPAN> people and the environment. We certainly do not treat all the other companies that roll large numbers of <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-0><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-0 class=yiv945652337mark><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-8><SPAN id=misspell-15><SPAN id=misspell-15>megaloads</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> through our <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-1><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-1><SPAN>pristine</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> environment the same way do we? <VAR id=yiv945652337yui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2 face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Paul Rumelhart <A class=yiv945652337moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><godshatter@yahoo.com></A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "Gier, Nicholas" <A class=yiv945652337moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:NGIER@uidaho.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:NGIER@uidaho.edu"><NGIER@uidaho.edu></A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Donovan Arnold <A class=yiv945652337moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></A>; Moscow Vision 2020 <A class=yiv945652337moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><Vision2020@moscow.com></A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, September 4, 2011 5:54 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020] who pays for <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-4><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-4><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-4 class=yiv945652337mark><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-11><SPAN id=misspell-18><SPAN id=misspell-18>Megaload</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> cops?<BR></FONT><BR>
<DIV style="RIGHT: auto" id=yiv945652337><BR>Who is paying and who should have to pay are two different things. If Exxon/Mobil is paying as part of a contract they negotiated, or if they are paying in order to keep their drivers safe, so much the better. I just don't like this current-object-of-my-ire-pays rule that seems to have sprung up here.<BR><BR>If you walk through a dangerous part of town on the way home and you have call 911 a few times to get the cops to break up bad situations, I don't see how you should expect to be billed for it. If you decide to hire an off-duty cop to walk with you, it doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't have to do so.<BR><BR>In effect, it's akin to fining Exxon/Mobil for having a bad reputation amongst local <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-5><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-5><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-5 class=yiv945652337mark><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-12><SPAN id=misspell-19><SPAN
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto"><FONT size=2>Greetings:<BR><BR>What has been lost in this discussion and rather detrimental to Paul's and Jay's position is that Exxon Mobil paid for police security going up Highway 12 (and is still paying for it as the load sits there being ugly); and, according to our mayor, Exxon-Mobil is willing to pay the Moscow <SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-7><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-7><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-7 class=yiv945652337mark><SPAN id=yiv945652337misspell-14><SPAN id=misspell-21><SPAN id=misspell-21>MPD</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> for any extra costs. I don't know why Nancy would tell me something that is not true, so this ends, for me at least, the discussion about who should pay.<BR><BR>Nick<BR><BR>Paul states,<BR> <BR>"As a property tax payer, I'd rather pay for general police coverage that way than to have to have a credit card handy when I dial 911."<BR> <BR>Paul, I think that is an
excellent counter argument to a claim that people should be required to personally finance the costs of their legitimate emergencies to the city. But since that claim was never made I am unsure as to why you would make it.<BR> <BR>However, I am sure that many for profit businesses would be pleased to hear that you are willing to pay a share of their costs of doing business by transferring their company responsibilities to publicly funded government agencies they don't pay into. I am not so willing and generous as you are, apparently. I believe that general city services should be used for the general public not to pawn off expenses of private for profit companies to local taxpayers.<BR> <BR>Donovan Arnold<BR><BR><BR>>>> >
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