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Nothing is different for them. Walmart, Target, and any other
business can happily move their products down the State highway as
long as they go through the process of securing the proper permits.<br>
<br>
I'm of the opinion that Lucifer himself should be allowed to move
megaloads down the State highway as long as he secures the proper
permits and isn't violating any laws. I don't know about Loki,
though. He is a trickster god, after all. You can't really trust
him, but you can't really deny him the permits either. Just keep a
close eye on him, I guess.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On 09/05/2011 07:05 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
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cite="mid:1315274739.6123.YahooMailNeo@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com"
type="cite">
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255); font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;
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<div style="right: auto;"><span style="right: auto;">I don't
think people are protesting the company, just their
destructive behavior as is evidenced by the protesting not <span
style="right: auto;" id="misspell-0"><span>occurring</span></span>
at any of the <span id="misspell-1">ExxonMobil</span> gas
stations or their other products elsewhere in the community.
The only rules that have changed are the ones that <span
id="misspell-2">ExxonMobil</span> made for themselves and
nobody else to be able to ship products at a weight and size
deemed unsafe. Honestly, why is it safe for <span
id="misspell-3">ExxonMobil</span> to move this size cargo
and not <span style="right: auto;" id="misspell-4">Walmart</span>,
Target, and other business passing through? It would save
them money too. What is different for them?<var
id="yui-ie-cursor"></var></span></div>
<div style="right: auto;"><span style="right: auto;"></span> </div>
<div style="right: auto;"><span style="right: auto;">Donovan
Arnold</span></div>
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font-size: 12pt;">
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font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2">
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Paul
Rumelhart <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><godshatter@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Donovan
Arnold <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "Gier,
Nicholas" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:NGIER@uidaho.edu"><NGIER@uidaho.edu></a>; Moscow Vision 2020
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><Vision2020@moscow.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, September 5, 2011 8:39 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [Vision2020] who pays for <span id="misspell-7">Megaload</span>
cops?<br>
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Hey, they're not my favorite company, either. However,
the rules don't change based on how much we like them.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
On 09/04/2011 10:38 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
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color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12pt;">
<div><span>Yeah, poor Exxon Mobile. They seem to
always be getting the short end of the deal
because nobody likes them. All they have to
comfort and console them is the 100s of billions
they make <span id="yiv1553794479misspell-0">every</span>
year from cheating and <span
id="yiv1553794479misspell-1"><span>exploiting</span></span>
people and the environment. We certainly do not
treat all the other companies that roll large
numbers of <span id="yiv1553794479misspell-0"><span
id="yiv1553794479misspell-0"
class="yiv1553794479mark"><span
id="misspell-8">megaloads</span></span></span>
through our <span id="yiv1553794479misspell-1"><span
id="yiv1553794479misspell-1"><span>pristine</span></span></span>
environment the same way do we? <var
id="yiv1553794479yui-ie-cursor"></var></span></div>
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<div><span>Donovan Arnold</span></div>
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york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
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york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font
face="Arial" size="2"><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
Paul Rumelhart <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="yiv1553794479moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><godshatter@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
"Gier, Nicholas" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="yiv1553794479moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:NGIER@uidaho.edu" rel="nofollow"
target="_blank"
ymailto="mailto:NGIER@uidaho.edu"><NGIER@uidaho.edu></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
Donovan Arnold <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="yiv1553794479moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></a>;
Moscow Vision 2020 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="yiv1553794479moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><Vision2020@moscow.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Sunday, September 4, 2011 5:54 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [Vision2020] who pays for <span
id="yiv1553794479misspell-4"><span
id="yiv1553794479misspell-4"><span
id="yiv1553794479misspell-4"
class="yiv1553794479mark"><span
id="misspell-11">Megaload</span></span></span></span>
cops?<br>
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<div style="right: auto;" id="yiv1553794479"><br>
Who is paying and who should have to pay are two
different things. If Exxon/Mobil is paying as
part of a contract they negotiated, or if they
are paying in order to keep their drivers safe,
so much the better. I just don't like this
current-object-of-my-ire-pays rule that seems to
have sprung up here.<br>
<br>
If you walk through a dangerous part of town on
the way home and you have call 911 a few times
to get the cops to break up bad situations, I
don't see how you should expect to be billed for
it. If you decide to hire an off-duty cop to
walk with you, it doesn't change the fact that
you shouldn't have to do so.<br>
<br>
In effect, it's akin to fining Exxon/Mobil for
having a bad reputation amongst local <span
id="yiv1553794479misspell-5"><span
id="yiv1553794479misspell-5"><span
id="yiv1553794479misspell-5"
class="yiv1553794479mark"><span
id="misspell-12">Muscovites</span></span></span></span>.
I don't see that as a positive thing.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
On 09/04/2011 01:45 PM, Gier, Nicholas wrote:
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<div style="right: auto;"><font size="2">Greetings:<br>
<br>
What has been lost in this discussion and
rather detrimental to Paul's and Jay's
position is that Exxon Mobil paid for
police security going up Highway 12 (and
is still paying for it as the load sits
there being ugly); and, according to our
mayor, Exxon-Mobil is willing to pay the
Moscow <span id="yiv1553794479misspell-7"><span
id="yiv1553794479misspell-7"><span
id="yiv1553794479misspell-7"
class="yiv1553794479mark"><span
id="misspell-14">MPD</span></span></span></span>
for any extra costs. I don't know why
Nancy would tell me something that is not
true, so this ends, for me at least, the
discussion about who should pay.<br>
<br>
Nick<br>
<br>
Paul states,<br>
<br>
"As a property tax payer, I'd rather pay
for general police coverage that way than
to have to have a credit card handy when I
dial 911."<br>
<br>
Paul, I think that is an excellent counter
argument to a claim that people should be
required to personally finance the costs
of their legitimate emergencies to the
city. But since that claim was never made
I am unsure as to why you would make it.<br>
<br>
However, I am sure that many for profit
businesses would be pleased to hear that
you are willing to pay a share of their
costs of doing business by transferring
their company responsibilities to
publicly funded government agencies they
don't pay into. I am not so willing and
generous as you are, apparently. I believe
that general city services should be used
for the general public not to pawn off
expenses of private for profit companies
to local taxpayers.<br>
<br>
Donovan Arnold<br>
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