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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Yes, because your "fact" doesn't support your claim that global warming isn't <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-0><SPAN>occurring</SPAN></SPAN>. The <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-1><SPAN>preponderance</SPAN></SPAN> of empirical evidence and the overwhelming majority of experts believe that global warming is <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-2><SPAN>occurring</SPAN></SPAN>. If you have evidence to show that the Earth is not warming or can <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-3><SPAN>convince</SPAN></SPAN> a majority of geologists<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>, <SPAN style="RIGHT: auto" id=misspell-4><SPAN>meteorologists</SPAN></SPAN>, and weather and climate field related experts they are wrong, then I think your claim can be supported. Pointing out a misplaced decimal point or misquote from a supporter of stopping global warming doesn't logically support your claim the Earth
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Donovan Arnold</SPAN></div>
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<DIV id=yiv782061080>Does it matter if the person "denying global warming" has actual facts to back them up?<BR><BR>For example, when I correct someone yet again on this list who is overstating the amount of sea level rise that the <SPAN id=misspell-6>IPCC</SPAN> expects as their worst-case scenario, do I sound ignorant? Should everyone turn away and pretend I didn't say anything at all?<BR><BR>Don't mind me, I'm just trying to probe the outer edges of their reality-distortion field.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>On 09/01/2011 08:48 PM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN>I do think someone sounds ignorant and uneducated when they deny global warming and humans having a negative impact on the Earth's environment. I also think someone sounds ignorant and uneducated about people when they say racist, sexist, homophobic things. So, yes, in that respect, I think the two are similar. Other than this, no, there are no similarities. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2 face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Paul Rumelhart <A class=yiv782061080moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><godshatter@yahoo.com></A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Vision 2020 <A class=yiv782061080moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><Vision2020@moscow.com></A><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:14 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Vision2020] Al Gore thinks climate "deniers" are akin to racists from the Old South<BR></FONT><BR>I'd like to get some vision2020 members opinions on this. Here is an article from the <SPAN id=yiv782061080misspell-1
class=yiv782061080mark><SPAN id=misspell-8>Huffington</SPAN></SPAN> Post where in an interview Al Gore talks about "winning the conversation" with climate deniers which refers to how racist comments were basically shunned in everyday conversations after the civil rights movement occurred.<BR><BR>Here is the article: <A href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/30/gore-climate-change-deniers_n_940802.html" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/30/gore-climate-change-deniers_n_940802.html</A><BR><BR>Do you think it's legitimate to treat talk of skepticism of anthropogenic global warming in the same way that we do racist language today?<BR><BR>Should I, as a climate skeptic, be told that "we don't talk about that here in polite conversation" when I have a question about something related to the science of climate change?<BR><BR>Just curious if I sound like <SPAN id=yiv782061080misspell-2 class=yiv782061080mark><SPAN
id=misspell-9>everyone's</SPAN></SPAN> uncle that everybody seems to have that embarrasses you every time you go out in public with him.<BR><VAR id=yiv782061080yui-ie-cursor></VAR><BR>Is that really a healthy attitude to have about scientific skepticism?<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>=======================================================<BR>List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>serving the communities of the <SPAN id=yiv782061080misspell-3 class=yiv782061080mark><SPAN id=misspell-10>Palouse</SPAN></SPAN> since 1994.<BR> <A href="http://www.fsr.net/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.fsr.net</A><BR> <SPAN id=yiv782061080misspell-4 class=yiv782061080mark><SPAN id=misspell-11>mailto</SPAN></SPAN>:<A href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank
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