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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry, Paul, but when tax exempt properties are being used for money-making Christian sexinars, that changes the equation, don’t you think? Particularly, it seems to me, when those involved in the sexinar consider their peculiar flavor of Christianity to be the moral authority for the rest of us & use their religion as a reason to restrict the liberties of the rest of us.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Remember, too, that it was the Nazarene Church that allowed the church to be used for a candidate specific prayerfest on Election Day in May, 2010. At the time, I was willing to accept the explanation that the church had been misled by Bouma’s campaign manager. Now? Not so much.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I didn’t follow the story too much, but I seem to recall that someone was complaining about how the rental fees for the 1912 Building is damaging the private sector. Unless the whiners are nothing more than rank hypocrites, they need to be complaining about churches like the Nazarene Church that rent out space undercutting their profits as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Further, IMO, <b><u>all</u></b> taxpayers should be mad as heck that our tax dollars are subsidizing money-making Christian sexinars by the likes of Wilson & Driscoll at a time when they are all for gutting the safety net for the disabled, elderly, and economically challenged men, women, and children in this country, not to mention the destruction of public education.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But, that’s just me – someone who cares about everyone regardless of their religion and someone who doesn’t think of non-Christians as devil spawn and gays of deserving death, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra Lund<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Moscow, ID<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~ Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Rumelhart<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> Art Deco; Moscow Vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] No Guts, Misquotes, & Mark Driscoll<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Odd.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Traditionally, it's the liberal community's job to defend all things sexual in nature from the ire of offended puritanical right-wing fundamentalists.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>I must have crossed over into Opposite Land last night when I went to sleep. How do you get back? Find the portal and travel away from it? Don't look for it at all and fall into it by mistake?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>I hope I figure it out soon. On the plus side, Facebook is a lot more private here and Microsoft is working hard to get Windows on 10% of user's desktops.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Art Deco <<a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> Moscow Vision 2020 <<a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:14 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] No Guts, Misquotes, & Mark Driscoll</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yiv1737482642><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>With all the buzz about the Christ Church Cult's scheduling of sexually obsessed so-called pastor Mark Driscoll who receives pornographic visions from Jesus, a couple of interest comments have passed almost unnoticed.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Vera White commented briefly about the latest Wilson-steps-on-his-dick-again snafu in last week's <i>Ink. </i><b> </b>[See complete <i>Ink</i> comment below].</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>One paragraph is of special interest:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:blue;background:#F4F4F4'>The INKster tried for two days to reach Wilson for comment, but was told he was busy with back-to-back meetings. She did however talk to Assistant Pastor Mike Lawyer Friday who explained the conference might attract "people from all over the world" and the agenda would include a Minister's Conference for men titled "The Puritan Five," and for females a session called "Dangerous Women."</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>First, Wilson, whose invitation to Driscoll and inept, illogical defense of that invitation has been widely criticized and lampooned in the Reformed Community of which Wilson is the alleged leader(at least for now), hasn't got the courage to discuss it very far outside his own cloistered circle. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Second, a friend who is not on V2020 but reads the <i>Ink</i> asked me if it was possible that Mike Lawyer possibly misspoke or was misquoted in the above paragraph. She wonders instead of </span><span style='color:blue;background:#F4F4F4'>"people from all over the world"</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:white'>, </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>what was really should have appeared was "perverts from all over the world."</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>w.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>____________________________</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Vera White, <i>The Ink, Moscow-Pullman Daily News</i></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>....</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>The INKster had never heard of Pastor Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill Church in Seattle until the outraged postings started appearing on Vision2020 this week. What stirred up such solid citizens as Saundra Lund of Moscow is</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>Nazarene Church Pastor Ed Eby's willingness to rent his Church for an appearance by Driscoll.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>"I cannot imagine that the community will be overly impressed that the Nazarene Church has rented itself out for a 'sexinar,' " Lund concluded.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>In Eby's defense, he rented out his church to Doug Wilson and Christ Church elders, sponsors of Driscoll's appearance next month at a conference titled "The Grace Agenda: All of Christ for All of Life for All The World."</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>Driscoll has a blog on which in 2008 he answered such questions as: Can I perform anal sex on my wife? Can we use sex toys? My wife likes to masturbate me upon occasion and wants to know how to get better at it. What should she do?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>The INKster tried for two days to reach Wilson for comment, but was told he was busy with back-to-back meetings. She did however talk to Assistant Pastor Mike Lawyer Friday who explained the conference might attract "people from all over the world" and the agenda would include a Minister's Conference for men titled "The Puritan Five," and for females a session called "Dangerous Women."</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>How well does Lawyer know Driscoll?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>"I've read some of his recent stuff," Lawyer said. "We feel his stuff is appropriate and like him as far as we know. We respect him and his ministry."</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>The INKster tried to reach Eby but ended up talking to temporary church secretary Mary Jane Bauer.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>"Pastor Eby doesnąt want to talk about Driscoll right now as he says he is still researching the matter," said Bauer, who has been a member of the church for 30 years. "I've never heard of Driscoll, but we rent out the church to many different groups.˛</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>After the INKster explained a bit about Driscoll's style, Bauer said she "highly doubts she will be attending."</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;background:#F4F4F4'>...the blotter rests.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Wayne A. 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