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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is the point that you are trying to make that the
products made by SEL would have no place in the electric power generation field
were it not for government regulation?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If so, I think that you are misinformed. This sort
of like saying that the -entire-market for farm products is the result of USDA
regulation.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Andreas Schou" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>ophite@gmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "Gary Crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:18
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Aug. 10, 2011
Moscow-Pullman Daily News: Schweitzer said lowering theminimumwage is a good
idea</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>You realize that the _entire_ market for the products which
Dr.<BR>Schweitzer sells is the result of federal regulation, right?
His<BR>products are designed to meet FERC reliability standards
for<BR>electrical transmission.<BR><BR>-- ACS<BR><BR>On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at
8:18 AM, Gary Crabtree <</FONT><A href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>
wrote:<BR>> You are right, of course. The last thing our country needs is
congressmen<BR>> who know how to meet a delivery date and a payroll. I am
sure we would do<BR>> best to stick with brainless drones such as Murray who
at no point in theirs<BR>> life have created anything of value. America will
surely be elevated from<BR>> its current economic woes by fools who believe
that wealth and job<BR>> creation is the exclusive domain of those in
Washington. How silly of me to<BR>> think that a gentleman who has the
ability to conceive, create, and bring to<BR>> market a useful product with
no help from our simpering nanny state might be<BR>> able to bring that same
increasingly novel approach to governance.<BR>><BR>> g<BR>> From: Art
Deco<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:43 PM<BR>> To: Moscow Vision
2020<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Aug. 10,2011 Moscow-Pullman Daily News:
Schweitzer<BR>> said lowering theminimumwage is a good idea<BR>> There is
little doubt that Schweitzer to this point has been a very<BR>> successful
entrepreneur. And in doing so he has treated his employees<BR>> well. So far
he has evaded a lot of serious competition because of the the<BR>> singular
nature of his business and his adroit management.<BR>><BR>> It is not
accurate to say that he does not "whine." The DN article contain<BR>> whines
about regulation, for example.<BR>><BR>> I'd be the last to defend all
regulations. Some are stupid, ill-designed,<BR>> and counterproductive. But
there are generally good reasons for<BR>> well-designed regulations in may
areas. What these areas are and how they<BR>> are to be regulated depends on
knowledge and values, the latter an area<BR>> where consensus is often hard
to forge.<BR>><BR>> A mistake commonly made in some businesses is to
promote the best worker<BR>> into a supervisory position. Often this does not
work. The skills needed<BR>> to be an expert machinist, for example, are very
different from the skills<BR>> needed to be an able
supervisor.<BR>><BR>> While Schweitzer is an excellent entrepreneur, that
set of skills is<BR>> different from being an able legislator. Government is
much more<BR>> complex than most medium sized companies, and it deals within
frameworks of<BR>> complex organizations, though sometimes corrupt, idiotic,
and ineffective,<BR>> never-the-less take a great deal of understanding to
even know where to<BR>> start to make change, and know how to make change
against a tide of years of<BR>> habit and resistance.<BR>><BR>> Being
the king of the company whose word is law is different from being a<BR>> cog
in a legislative/political machine where one's ideas and words carry<BR>>
much less weight.<BR>><BR>> Further, being an effective business person
sometimes narrows perspective<BR>> and makes understanding different aspects
of issues and values difficult.<BR>><BR>> Schweitzer may make an able
legislator. I don't know. But his success as a<BR>> business person is no
guarantee that he will. But perhaps if he set his<BR>> sights on the state
legislature first so he can learn and can show what he<BR>> can do, then
Washington voters would have a better feel for his<BR>> political/legislative
ability.<BR>><BR>> w.<BR>> From: Gary Crabtree<BR>> Sent: Wednesday,
August 10, 2011 6:55 PM<BR>> To: Ted Moffett ; Moscow Vision 2020<BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Aug. 10,2011 Moscow-Pullman Daily News:
Schweitzer<BR>> said lowering theminimum wage is a good idea<BR>> I'd love
to see Mr. Schweitzer take a run at Patty (the menace) Murray's<BR>> senate
seat in 2016. Washington has a desperate need for a few clear<BR>> thinking
individuals who know how the real world actually works. Someone who<BR>> has
created innovative products and jobs without having to whine to the<BR>>
government for a handout. Accomplishments of which Murray couldn't even<BR>>
conceive.<BR>><BR>> g<BR>><BR>> P.S. "meters of sea level rise?"
When, by 4012/4042? Nothing like a little<BR>> sensationalism to try and rile
the monkeys<BR>> From: Ted Moffett<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011
2:39 PM<BR>> To: Moscow Vision 2020<BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] Aug. 10,
2011 Moscow-Pullman Daily News: Schweitzer<BR>> said lowering the minimum
wage is a good idea<BR>><BR>> Of course Schweitzer provides jobs and an
economic boost to the Palouse, and<BR>> gives back to the community, as
evidenced by the United Way support:<BR>> </FONT><A
href="http://www.moscowlatahuw.org/docs/annual%20report%202010final.pdf"><FONT
face=Arial
size=2>http://www.moscowlatahuw.org/docs/annual%20report%202010final.pdf</FONT></A><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>><BR>> But lowering the minimum wage is a good idea?
Since the great recession<BR>> an expanding percentage of the US work force
is defined as working poor<BR>> ( </FONT><A
href="http://www.workingpoorfamilies.org/pdfs/policybrief-winter2011.pdf"><FONT
face=Arial
size=2>http://www.workingpoorfamilies.org/pdfs/policybrief-winter2011.pdf</FONT></A><FONT
face=Arial size=2> ), and<BR>> would lowering the minimum wage make this
situation worse? Maybe he was<BR>> misquoted.<BR>><BR>> Also,
Schweitzer comments that "you can't fool the laws of physics even for<BR>> an
instant" regarding fuel economy for vehicles. Yet, in his critical<BR>>
comments on the costs of the EPA regulation of CO2 emissions, does he
imply<BR>> we should ignore the laws of physics regarding the radiative
forcing of<BR>> human sourced atmospheric CO2 emissions raising Earth's
temperature into the<BR>> range of "dangerous anthropogenic interference," to
quote from a Proceedings<BR>> of of the National Academy of Sciences article
I recommend everyone<BR>> read: </FONT><A
href="http://www.pnas.org/content/106/49/20616.full"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>http://www.pnas.org/content/106/49/20616.full</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2> August 31, 2009:<BR>> "Reducing abrupt climate change risk using the
Montreal Protocol and other<BR>> regulatory actions to complement cuts in CO2
emissions" A short quote from<BR>> the article: The potential consequences
associated with these tipping points<BR>> may be largely irreversible and
unmanageable (10) and include widespread<BR>> loss of biodiversity, meters of
sea level rise, and famine, which could lead<BR>> to political instability
(9, 11). In a worst-case scenario, climate change<BR>> could produce runaway
feedbacks, such as methane release from permafrost<BR>> (12).<BR>>
-----------------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>>
Schweitzer: Too much regulation can cause harm<BR>><BR>> </FONT><A
href="http://seekingalpha.com/news-article/1623287-schweitzer-too-much-regulation-can-cause-harm"><FONT
face=Arial
size=2>http://seekingalpha.com/news-article/1623287-schweitzer-too-much-regulation-can-cause-harm</FONT></A><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>><BR>> Wed August 10, 2011 10:02
AM<BR>><BR>><BR>> Aug. 10--If lawmakers back off unnecessary
regulations, the economy could<BR>> take an upward turn, Ed Schweitzer said
Tuesday at a Pullman Chamber of<BR>> Commerce luncheon.<BR>><BR>>
However, he not only offered criticism of government rules, but also<BR>>
exhortations to fellow businessmen to believe in America and invest in
it,<BR>> as he is doing with major expansion of Pullman-based Schweitzer
Engineering<BR>> Laboratories.<BR>><BR>> "Duke Energy (DUK) reported
that the carbon dioxide limits that the<BR>> Environmental Protection Agency
put into regulation is going to cost them $2<BR>> billion to $5 billion
dollars," Schweitzer said. "Just for one utility of<BR>> the United States
providing people electricity. Who's going to pay that?<BR>> Well, who here
plugs something in?"<BR>><BR>> Schweitzer, founder and president of SEL,
said regulations for some<BR>> gas-efficient cars can also make a negative
impact.<BR>><BR>> "It sounds good to make cars that use less gas, but you
can't fool the laws<BR>> of physics even for an instant, and you can only
fool the laws of economics<BR>> for a short time," he said. "As you know
we're pushing a ... 56-mile a<BR>> gallon limit. ... There's estimates that
that will kill 200,000 jobs and<BR>> leave us with cars we don't
want."<BR>><BR>> An important step in fixing the economy, Schweitzer said,
is inventing new<BR>> things, taking them to market and competing to serve
customers. In addition,<BR>> he said, there should be an elimination of all
the government activities<BR>> that "just plain don't work."<BR>><BR>>
"Invent your future," he said. "Make it, do it, sell it, improve it ...
and<BR>> once people stop looking at the capitol dome as the top of an ATM
machine,<BR>> then we're going to get back on track."<BR>><BR>>
Schweitzer said lowering the minimum wage is a good idea, as well as<BR>>
encouraging construction of pending building permits at Pullman City
Hall.<BR>><BR>> SEL itself is moving forward with both construction and
production, he said.<BR>> New SEL facilities have been and are being
constructed in efforts to expand<BR>> services. A facility in Lewiston will
be up and running by Oct. 1 and a<BR>> 90,000 square foot Solution Delivery
Center being built in Pullman will be<BR>> finished by mid-November. In
addition, a 68,500 square foot SEL facility<BR>> recently was constructed in
San Luis Potosi, Mexico, for exporting equipment<BR>> to countries all over
the world.<BR>><BR>> "A few months ago we decided we were really going to
step on the gas. And<BR>> why?" he asked. "We decided we're going to do it
because we think the<BR>> country's going to get it right. We really believe
in America."<BR>><BR>> So far, Schweitzer said, the San Luis Potosi
facility has distributed to<BR>> about 30 countries, and over time Pullman
has distributed to more than 140<BR>> countries around the
world.<BR>><BR>> "SEL and other people are finding now is a good time to
build, and this is<BR>> something we can do right here at home," he said. "We
need the space, so<BR>> we're building, and right now construction costs are
low. We're doing it at<BR>> about 25 to 30 percent lower than last time we
built something ... and it's<BR>> a good time to hire people -- folks want to
work."<BR>><BR>> SEL employs about 2,500 people worldwide, the majority of
them on the<BR>> Palouse.<BR>><BR>> Kelli Hadley can be reached at
(208) 882-5561, ext. 234, or by email to<BR>> </FONT><A
href="mailto:khadley@dnews.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>khadley@dnews.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>.<BR>><BR>>
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