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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>And what you seem to forget is that prior
to being treated to Minnesota's least amusing joke and after the demise of
Massachusetts most famous drunk driver there was the dems undercover
A-team headed up by Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, and Arlen
Specter.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>g</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR></FONT>--------------------------------------------------<BR>From:
"Andreas Schou" <ophite@gmail.com><BR>Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 4:06
PM<BR>To: "Gary Crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com><BR>Cc: "Saundra Lund"
<v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm>; "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com>;
"Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>; "Moscow Vision 2020"
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] CNN Breaking
News<BR><BR>> The short answer is that we had total and complete legislative
control<BR>> from late 2009 (when Al Franken took his seat) to early 2010
(when Ted<BR>> Kennedy died). The long answer is, of course, that you have a
short<BR>> memory.<BR>> <BR>>
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20016227-503544.html<BR>> <BR>>
Mitch McConnell held unemployment extension and aid to states hostage<BR>>
unless we signed off on a two-year extension on tax cuts for the rich.<BR>>
We paid the ransom that time, just like we did this time.<BR>> <BR>> --
ACS<BR>> <BR>> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Gary Crabtree
<jampot@roadrunner.com> wrote:<BR>>> "Of course, anyone listening to
reputable news and not selectively quoting<BR>>> is aware of this little
gem, which is also in the article Gary selectively<BR>>> quoted
from:<BR>>><BR>>> “The majority of Republicans in Congress continue
to resist any measure that<BR>>> would raise revenues,” the firm
said.”<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> BHO and the dems had the
opportunity to raise revenues with out even lifting<BR>>> a finger and
there was nothing that Republicans could have done to stop it.<BR>>> In
fact, your progressive pals had to go out of their way to avoid
letting<BR>>> GW's tax cuts expire. I'm dying to hear how the greedy Tea
Party vermin<BR>>> pulled that one off. The democrats also had two full
years of total<BR>>> executive and legislative control. During that time
they did what exactly to<BR>>> address the countries deficit problem? ( I
can sure list several ways in<BR>>> which they made it worse) Can you
point to the language in the dems budget<BR>>> that would have resulted in
reduced spending and explain how the Tea Party<BR>>> might be responsible
for the glaring omission?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> As a
side note I'm also curious as to what makes your selective quote in<BR>>>
some way superior to mine? Last time I checked, all quotes are
selective.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
g<BR>>><BR>>> From: Saundra Lund<BR>>> Sent: Saturday, August
06, 2011 10:00 AM<BR>>> To: 'Tom Hansen' ; 'Donovan Arnold'<BR>>>
Cc: 'Moscow Vision 2020'<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] CNN Breaking
News<BR>>><BR>>> Selective quoting yet again, eh,
Gary?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> For those interested,
here’s the link to the article Gary is quoting:<BR>>><BR>>>
http://tinyurl.com/WP-S-P-Downgrades<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
Of course, anyone listening to reputable news and not selectively quoting
is<BR>>> aware of this little gem, which is also in the article Gary
selectively<BR>>> quoted from:<BR>>><BR>>> “The majority of
Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that<BR>>> would
raise revenues,” the firm said.”<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
So, yes, let’s be sure to be honest about the teabaggers’ role in
this<BR>>> fiasco: they are apparently too economics challenged to
understand that the<BR>>> US simply cannot appropriately deal with our
debt without increasing revenue<BR>>> as well as addressing
spending. That ignorance plays a significant –<BR>>> perhaps the
most significant -- role in this
disaster.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> And, the current GOP
leadership obviously lacks the backbone to stand up to<BR>>> these
lunatics who are willing to absolutely destroy this country’s
economy<BR>>> in the name of their flawed
ideology.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Perhaps a great
example is the FAA deauthorization – they were so stupid<BR>>> they
thought they were saving taxpayers money (as well as attacking the
hard<BR>>> working American men & women who make up airlines) by
preventing the FAA<BR>>> from collecting taxes. But, what really
happened? The same damn thing that<BR>>> happens nearly every time
we give big corporations a “break”: the airlines<BR>>> ran with
their corporate greed & simply jacked up ticket
prices.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> As near as I can tell,
the ‘baggers either think greed is a virtue or are as<BR>>> stupid as
their hero Greenspan was about the pervasiveness of greed & the<BR>>>
loss of humanity, compassion, and caring for others in
America.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> They must be so
proud.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Which speaks volumes
about what’s gone wrong with this country – greed &<BR>>> ignorance
trump
all.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
Saundra Lund<BR>>><BR>>> Moscow,
ID<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> The only thing necessary for
the triumph of evil is for good people to do<BR>>>
nothing.<BR>>><BR>>> ~ Edmund
Burke<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ***** Original material
contained herein is Copyright 2011 through life plus<BR>>> 70 years,
Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce
outside<BR>>> the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission
of the<BR>>>
author.*****<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>>> On Behalf Of Gary
Crabtree<BR>>> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:19 AM<BR>>> To: Tom
Hansen; Donovan Arnold<BR>>> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020<BR>>> Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] CNN Breaking
News<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From today's Washington
Post<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> "...the bipartisan
agreement reached this week to find at least<BR>>> $2.1 trillion in budget
savings “fell short” of what was necessary to tame<BR>>> the nation’s debt
over time and predicted that leaders would not be likely<BR>>> to achieve
more savings in the future."<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Was
it the Tea Party that was fighting tooth nail in favor of raising
the<BR>>> debt limit to an absolute all time high with no spending
reductions what so<BR>>> ever? Was it the Tea party that would have no
part of the cut, cap, and<BR>>> balance plan or the Mack penny plan that
would have put the country on a<BR>>> path to solvency? Can you point to a
single democrat/progressive plan that<BR>>> might have had as a result
even a slight reduction in the countries debt<BR>>> burden? Heck, with two
years of total government control they couldn't even<BR>>> pass a
budget.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> The bond rating agencies
want to see spending and the debt required to<BR>>> perpetuate it brought
under control, a goal that is at the very heart of the<BR>>> "Tea Party
stench."<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
g<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From: Tom
Hansen<BR>>><BR>>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:13
PM<BR>>><BR>>> To: Donovan Arnold<BR>>><BR>>> Cc: Moscow
Vision 2020<BR>>><BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] CNN Breaking
News<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> This downgrading, if
adopted by the other two rating firms, has more of an<BR>>> adverse impact
than you suggest, Mr. Arnold.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Do
you realize that most, if not all, 301Ks are committed to
investments<BR>>> with AAA ratings
ONLY?<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> The result could be
catastrophic<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Seeya round town,
Moscow.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Tom
Hansen<BR>>><BR>>> Moscow,
Idaho<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> "The Pessimist complains
about the wind, the Optimist expects it to<BR>>> change and the Realist
adjusts his sails."<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> -
Unknown<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> On Aug 5, 2011, at
18:57, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com><BR>>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> The good thing about a democracy is you get what
you voted for. And the bad<BR>>> thing about democracy is you get what you
voted for. Unfortunately, it is<BR>>> going to take much more than a
downgrade of AAA to AA+ from S&P to make the<BR>>> American people
respond to this economic crisis. I heard on NPR today that<BR>>> only 58%
of the adult US population is employed.
Scary!<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Donovan
Arnold<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From: Tom Hansen
<thansen@moscow.com><BR>>> To: Moscow Vision 2020
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 7:17
PM<BR>>> Subject: [Vision2020] CNN Breaking News<BR>>><BR>>>
Read on, V-Peeps.<BR>>><BR>>> More "good" news to pass on to the Tea
Party stench, the cause behind this<BR>>>
downgrade.<BR>>><BR>>>
http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/05/news/economy/downgrade_rumors/index.htm<BR>>><BR>>>
The downfall of the market this week may foreshadow things to
come.<BR>>><BR>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>>><BR>>>
Tom Hansen<BR>>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>>><BR>>> "Believe we're
gliding down the highway<BR>>> When in fact we're slip slidin'
away."<BR>>><BR>>> - Paul Simon<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
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----------------------------<BR>>> Subject: CNN Breaking News<BR>>>
From: "CNN Breaking News"
<BreakingNews@mail.cnn.com><BR>>> Date: Fri,
August 5, 2011 5:31 pm<BR>>> To:
textbreakingnews@EMA3LSV06.TURNER.COM<BR>>>
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Rating agency Standard & Poor's says it has downgraded the U.S.
credit<BR>>> rating to AA+ from its top rank of
AAA.<BR>>><BR>>> Rating agencies analyze risk and give debt a
"grade" that reflects the<BR>>> borrower's ability to pay the underlying
loans.<BR>>><BR>>> The safest bets are stamped AAA. That's where
U.S. debt stood for years.<BR>>><BR>>>
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