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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>Iran & Afghanistan are likely to turn out in
the long run just like Viet Nam. Horrible carnage, outrageous expense,
demoralizing divisiveness -- the end result, the same as if we had never entered
into it in the first place.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Verdana>w.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul Rumelhart</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 01, 2011 7:09 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Impasses lead to shutdown of
FAA</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I agree for the most part, but I'd suggest leaving a few
strategically-located military bases that would allow us to project power should
we need to. Phase the other ones out over the next decade or so.<BR><BR>I
agree wholeheartedly about Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. <BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>On
08/01/2011 06:59 PM, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:
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<DIV dir=ltr>Seems to me the starting place should be the THREE wars
we're fighting. That Obama would argue that we're not at war in Libya is
loathesome. <BR> <BR>Let's start there, and then start shutting down the
over-one-hundred military bases we have around the world, and looking at the
rest of the military budget. <BR> <BR>Sunil<BR> <BR>
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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:45:45 -0700<BR>From: <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</A><BR>To: <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</A>; <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A><BR>CC: <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Impasses lead to shutdown of FAA<BR><BR>
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<DIV><SPAN>While we're on the subject, as an aside, this basically comes down
to the problem that always stymies cuts in government. Cuts hurt.
They may be worth it in the long run, but unless they are truly fluff they
will adversely affect someone. Despite that fact, I think that valuable
services will have to be reduced or eliminated if we are serious about getting
this debt mess under control. The problem is, elected officials don't
want to vote for spending cuts that affect their constituencies and people
don't want to see their favorite services cut back. So, the question is:
exactly how serious are we about cutting spending in government?</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>I'm rather hoping this issue will put the idea of cutting services
back on the nation's consciousness. If we as a populace realized that we
have a lot of control over what actually happens, we might have a chance of
reducing or eliminating some of the over-reaching programs that have sprung up
over the past decade or so, such as the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping,
fighting two wars, etc. It might also have the added benefit of reducing
the current insane debt level that is causing us so much trouble. But we
can't do it if we all fight every cut that has consequences, just because it
has some drawbacks. It can't be done without making some
sacrifices. We just need to do some cost/benefit analyses and make our
choices wisely. Avoiding the hard decisions is what got us into this
mess in the first place.<BR></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Paul<BR></SPAN></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jay Borden <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com"><jborden@datawedge.com></A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Tom Hansen <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><thansen@moscow.com></A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, August 1, 2011 1:11
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020]
Impasses lead to shutdown of FAA<BR></FONT><BR>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Sometimes,
Mr. Hansen, you need to better explain your “heart of the matter” instead of
leaving it to be summarized by sarcastic dismissals. I didn’t tie
you to the “liberal/Democratic” … but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to
see you’re further left than I am. However, anyone left to simply “read
beyond the short comment” (and thus filling in the gaps with their own
interpretations instead of your ACTUAL opinion) would probably just peg you as
a card-carrying member of the progressive movement.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It’s
NOT “only logical”. By this are you saying that EVERY SINGLE FAA
PROGRAM/EMPLOYEE IS TIED TO SAFETY? How much of the FAA do we actually
NEED vs. WANT? Are we really so trusting of our government and its use
of our monies that we simply default to an answer of, “GIVE THE FAA EVERY
PENNY IT NEEDS, OR LIGHTS WILL START FLICKERING ON RUNWAYS”.
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">How
much of the FAA can be turned over to local states or local airports, instead
of a federal agency? How much of the FAA is a social agenda, as opposed
to a NECESSARY service?</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><A
href="http://www.faa.gov/about/budget/" rel=nofollow target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.faa.gov/about/budget/</A></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Take
a peek at that and some of the budgets they’ve gone through… (though I would
tend to look more towards the 2012 budget stuff rather than the older (2008
and prior) ones… as recent budgets have been bloated/blurred with the stimulus
packages and federal grant money… )</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“Reduction
of Environment Impacts”… is THAT safety? </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“Improved
Public Transit Experience”…. is THAT safety?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“Improved
Networks to accommodate Pedestrians and Bicycles?” (Really?). Is
THAT safety?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“Research
Carbon Emissions, Improved Energy Efficiency, Reduce Dependence on Oil”… Is
that safety?</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">**
Note: I’m skimming the proposed 2012 budget for the FAA… I haven’t read
the details beyond this… I’m taking this stuff at face value... … but just at
face value, I don’t see a lot of links between these items and having the
runway lights flicker on final approach.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
should also be clear in my position here: I’m a fiscal conservative and
social liberal… I don’t lean so far right that I don’t see a role for the FAA
at all… but that doesn’t mean that we should be so complacent about spending
that it isn’t scrutinized at least a LITTLE more before we start blindly start
tossing around the notion that “cutting spending directly ties to a decrease
in safety”.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">(As
a side note, Reagan fired something like 10,000 Air Traffic Controllers in
1981… that would just about represent the most EXTREME tie to safety I can
think of, and I don’t remember reading about any airplanes falling out of the
sky as a result… )</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Jay</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Tom Hansen [<A
class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">mailto:thansen@moscow.com</A>]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 01, 2011 11:49 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Jay
Borden<BR><B>Cc:</B> Mike Deleve; <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Vision2020] Impasses lead to shutdown of FAA</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>Sometimes, Mr. Borden, you've got to read
beyond a short comment to get to the heart of the matter.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>In my opinion, barring any evidence to
the contrary, laying off 4,000 FAA employees, coupled with a drastic FAA
budget cut, WILL adversely impact safety. It's only logical.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>Simply because a liberal/Democrat says
something, DOES NOT mean that I am in lockstep agreement with
him/her.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>OK?</DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>Seeya round town, Moscow.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>Tom Hansen</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>Moscow, Idaho</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>"The Pessimist complains about the wind,
the Optimist expects it to change <SPAN
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sails."</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><BR>On Aug 1,
2011, at 11:39, "Jay Borden" <<A href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com"
rel=nofollow moz-do-not-send="true">jborden@datawedge.com</A>>
wrote:</DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Ok…
I get it… I’m a fiscal conservative and therefore my legit questions
will be automatically met with snippy and “hand-waving” answers from
the left.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">But
the article that was POSTED FOR ME TO READ said that the “shutdown will not
affect airline safety”… Yet in response to my question, folks are jumping on
issues of SAFETY.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Either
the folks who snipped back at my LEGITIMATE question didn’t read the article
that was posted up/shared, or they believe that it’s all lies… </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">In
either case, I’ll take the article at face value and assume that the folks
that are furloughed are not part of a “safety” equation (however that equal
sign pencils out).</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">How
much do we ACTUALLY NEED some of this stuff? As a nation, we’ve taken
such BROAD strokes to government and spending, we don’t actually look to see
how the pennies add up to dollars. When my wife and I look at our home
budget, we don’t just look at the BROAD spending we do in our home, we look
at the NITTY GRITTY pennies… (well, we obviously can’t cut FOOD out of our
budget, but maybe we can spend less name-brand cereal and get just the
Malto-Meal stuff?)</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It’s
a larger question…. (and keep in mind that I had my VFR rating, and was on
the verge of my IFR before I let it all lapse just after 9/11)… how
much of this needs to be kept? </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Mike Deleve [<A
class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:coolerfixer@roadrunner.com">mailto:coolerfixer@roadrunner.com</A>]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Jay
Borden<BR><B>Cc:</B> <A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow
moz-do-not-send="true">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Vision2020] Impasses lead to shutdown of FAA</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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Jay-</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">These are the people that
do those unimportant things like accident investigation, aircraft safety
inspections and a really dumb one. Licensing of pilots. My application will
be delayed even further now. If your privileges expire in the time
frame that the FAA has no authority, you can no longer fly. Period. The
airlines may be hit hard with expiring commercial pilot licenses. This is no
small thing. You can also bet a certain moron senator from Oklahoma is
involved in this because of his reckless activity, just to extract some
payback.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228)"
class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=jborden@datawedge.com href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com"
rel=nofollow moz-do-not-send="true">Jay Borden</A> </SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow
moz-do-not-send="true">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A title=Vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow
moz-do-not-send="true">Moscow Vision 2020</A> </SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Monday, July 25, 2011
5:53 PM</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [Vision2020]
Impasses lead to shutdown of FAA</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">According
to the article, “the shutdown will not affect airline safety”… then
what exactly are these 4000 people that are on the payroll doing?
</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">And…
do we need them? </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">(Generally,
I’m in favor of many of these government/agency shutdowns… you’ll never
really know how much government you can live without until you wake up and
never even realize it was missing)</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Jay</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" rel=nofollow
moz-do-not-send="true">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A> [<A
class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tom Hansen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 23, 2011
8:53 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Moscow Vision 2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020]
Impasses lead to shutdown of FAA</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>Jus' another attempt by our friendly,
people-oriented Tea . . . er, uh . . . I mean Republican (it's gettin
harder to tell them apart without DNA) Party to shut down 'nother one of
them commie pinko socialist unions.</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>Courtesy of The Boston Globe
at:</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><A
href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/07/23/impasses_lead_to_shutdown_of_faa/?page=full"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/07/23/impasses_lead_to_shutdown_of_faa/?page=full</A></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV>
<H1
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 16.5pt">Impasses
lead to shutdown of FAA</SPAN></H1>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt" class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
class=ecxyiv1601980327apple-style-span><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">WASHINGTON - Efforts to
avert a shutdown of the Federal Aviation Administration failed yesterday
amid a disagreement over a $16.5 million cut in subsidies to 13 rural
communities, ensuring that at midnight nearly 4,000 people will be
temporarily out of work and federal airline ticket taxes will be
suspended.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">Lawmakers were unable to
resolve a partisan dispute over an extension of the agency’s operating
authority.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt" class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal><SPAN
class=ecxyiv1601980327apple-style-span><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">The subsidy cut was
included by Republicans in a House bill extending operating authority for
the FAA, which has a $16 billion budget. Senate Democrats refused to
accept the House bill with the cuts, and Republican senators refused to
accept a Democratic bill without it. Lawmakers then adjourned for the
weekend.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=ecxyiv1601980327page1>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">But underlying the dispute
on rural air service subsidies was a standoff between the GOP-controlled
House and the Democratic-controlled Senate over a provision in long-term
funding legislation for the FAA that would make it more difficult for
airline and railroad workers to unionize.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">Obama administration
officials have said the shutdown will not affect air safety. Air traffic
controllers will remain on the job. But airlines will lose the authority
to collect about $200 million a week in ticket taxes that go into a trust
fund that pays for FAA programs.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">FAA employees whose jobs
are paid for with trust fund money will be furloughed, including nearly
1,000 workers at the agency’s headquarters in Washington, 647 workers at
FAA’s technology and research center in Atlantic City, and 124 workers at
the agency’s training center in Oklahoma City.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">“These are real people
with families who do not deserve to be put out of work during these tough
economic times,’’ FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt said in a
statement.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">Airline passengers could
see a big savings on their airfares, but the situation is complicated.
Federal taxes on a $300 round-trip airfare are about $61, but about half
of that is airport and security fees that will continue to be collected,
according to the Air Transport Association.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">Airlines, alerted earlier
this week that FAA authority could expire, have been making adjustments to
their computer systems and websites so that at midnight, taxes will no
longer be added to airfares, the association said.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">One airline, US
Airways, was already raising its fares. Other airlines may try to reap a
windfall profit from the tax holiday.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">Passengers who bought
their tickets before the shutdown but who travel during the shutdown may
wind up due a refund, Treasury Department spokeswoman Sandra Salstrom
said. That’s because it’s not clear whether the government can keep taxes
for travel that takes place during a period when the government doesn’t
have authority to collect taxes, she said.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">Likewise, it’s not clear
if passengers who buy tickets after midnight with no taxes included will
wind up owing taxes if their travel takes place after FAA’s operating
authority is restored, she said.</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV id=ecxyiv1601980327page2>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">Long-term funding
authority for the FAA expired in 2007. Unable to agree on new long-term
funding legislation for the agency, Congress has kept the FAA operating
through a series of 20 short-term extension bills. The extensions had been
routine until this week.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">The Senate passed a
long-term bill in February; and the House a different version in April.
Lawmakers have resolved most of the differences between the bills, but no
progress has been made on a half dozen or more controversial
issues.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">Republicans said Senate
majority leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, is insisting that a labor
provision in the House bill sought by the airline industry must be dropped
before negotiations can go forward.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">The labor provision would
overturn a National Mediation Board rule approved last year that allows
airline and railroad employees to form a union by a simple majority of
those voting. Under the old rule, workers who didn’t vote were treated as
“no’’ votes. The Republicans complain that the new rule reverses 75 years
of precedent to favor labor unions. Democrats and union officials say the
change puts airline and railroad elections under the same democratic rules
required for unionizing all other companies.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">The White House warned in
March that President Obama might veto the bill if the labor provision is
retained.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">Just before he blocked the
Democrats’ extension bill, Senator Orrin Hatch, a Utah Republican, said he
shared House Republicans’ frustration “that favors to organized labor have
overshadowed the prospects for long-term FAA’’ funding.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15.75pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11.5pt">Another unresolved issue
involves about $200 million in air services subsidies to rural
communities. The program was created when airlines were deregulated in
1978 to ensure continued air service on less profitable routes to isolated
communities. The House long-term FAA bill would eliminate the program
except for airports in Alaska.</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>Seeya round town, Moscow.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>Tom Hansen</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal>Moscow, Idaho</DIV></DIV>
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