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I agree for the most part, but I'd suggest leaving a few
strategically-located military bases that would allow us to project
power should we need to. Phase the other ones out over the next
decade or so.<br>
<br>
I agree wholeheartedly about Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. <br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
On 08/01/2011 06:59 PM, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:
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Seems to me the starting place should be the THREE wars we're
fighting. That Obama would argue that we're not at war in Libya
is loathesome. <br>
<br>
Let's start there, and then start shutting down the
over-one-hundred military bases we have around the world, and
looking at the rest of the military budget. <br>
<br>
Sunil<br>
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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:45:45 -0700<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com">jborden@datawedge.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>
CC: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Impasses lead to shutdown of FAA<br>
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<div><span>While we're on the subject, as an aside, this
basically comes down to the problem that always stymies
cuts in government. Cuts hurt. They may be worth it in
the long run, but unless they are truly fluff they will
adversely affect someone. Despite that fact, I think
that valuable services will have to be reduced or
eliminated if we are serious about getting this debt
mess under control. The problem is, elected officials
don't want to vote for spending cuts that affect their
constituencies and people don't want to see their
favorite services cut back. So, the question is:
exactly how serious are we about cutting spending in
government?</span></div>
<div><br>
<span></span></div>
<div><span>I'm rather hoping this issue will put the idea of
cutting services back on the nation's consciousness. If
we as a populace realized that we have a lot of control
over what actually happens, we might have a chance of
reducing or eliminating some of the over-reaching
programs that have sprung up over the past decade or so,
such as the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping,
fighting two wars, etc. It might also have the added
benefit of reducing the current insane debt level that
is causing us so much trouble. But we can't do it if we
all fight every cut that has consequences, just because
it has some drawbacks. It can't be done without making
some sacrifices. We just need to do some cost/benefit
analyses and make our choices wisely. Avoiding the hard
decisions is what got us into this mess in the first
place.<br>
</span></div>
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<span></span></div>
<div><span>Paul<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
Jay Borden <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com"><jborden@datawedge.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Tom
Hansen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><thansen@moscow.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, August 1, 2011 1:11 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [Vision2020] Impasses lead to shutdown of FAA<br>
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<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Sometimes, Mr.
Hansen, you need to better explain your “heart
of the matter” instead of leaving it to be
summarized by sarcastic dismissals. I didn’t
tie you to the “liberal/Democratic” … but it
doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see you’re
further left than I am. However, anyone left to
simply “read beyond the short comment” (and
thus filling in the gaps with their own
interpretations instead of your ACTUAL opinion)
would probably just peg you as a card-carrying
member of the progressive movement.</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">It’s NOT “only
logical”. By this are you saying that EVERY
SINGLE FAA PROGRAM/EMPLOYEE IS TIED TO SAFETY?
How much of the FAA do we actually NEED vs.
WANT? Are we really so trusting of our
government and its use of our monies that we
simply default to an answer of, “GIVE THE FAA
EVERY PENNY IT NEEDS, OR LIGHTS WILL START
FLICKERING ON RUNWAYS”. </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">How much of the FAA
can be turned over to local states or local
airports, instead of a federal agency? How much
of the FAA is a social agenda, as opposed to a
NECESSARY service?</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.faa.gov/about/budget/"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.faa.gov/about/budget/</a></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Take a peek at that
and some of the budgets they’ve gone through…
(though I would tend to look more towards the
2012 budget stuff rather than the older (2008
and prior) ones… as recent budgets have been
bloated/blurred with the stimulus packages and
federal grant money… )</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">“Reduction of
Environment Impacts”… is THAT safety? </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">“Improved Public
Transit Experience”…. is THAT safety?</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">“Improved Networks
to accommodate Pedestrians and Bicycles?”
(Really?). Is THAT safety?</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">“Research Carbon
Emissions, Improved Energy Efficiency, Reduce
Dependence on Oil”… Is that safety?</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">** Note: I’m
skimming the proposed 2012 budget for the FAA… I
haven’t read the details beyond this… I’m taking
this stuff at face value... … but just at face
value, I don’t see a lot of links between these
items and having the runway lights flicker on
final approach.</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">I should also be
clear in my position here: I’m a fiscal
conservative and social liberal… I don’t lean so
far right that I don’t see a role for the FAA at
all… but that doesn’t mean that we should be so
complacent about spending that it isn’t
scrutinized at least a LITTLE more before we
start blindly start tossing around the notion
that “cutting spending directly ties to a
decrease in safety”.</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">(As a side note,
Reagan fired something like 10,000 Air Traffic
Controllers in 1981… that would just about
represent the most EXTREME tie to safety I can
think of, and I don’t remember reading about any
airplanes falling out of the sky as a result… )</span></div>
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73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
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73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
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73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Jay</span></div>
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style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color: rgb(31,
73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; font-size:
10pt;"> Tom Hansen
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">mailto:thansen@moscow.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 01, 2011 11:49
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jay Borden<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mike Deleve;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Impasses
lead to shutdown of FAA</span></div>
</div>
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<div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal">Sometimes,
Mr. Borden, you've got to read beyond a short
comment to get to the heart of the matter.</div>
</div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal">In my
opinion, barring any evidence to the contrary,
laying off 4,000 FAA employees, coupled with a
drastic FAA budget cut, WILL adversely impact
safety. It's only logical.</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal">Simply
because a liberal/Democrat says something, DOES
NOT mean that I am in lockstep agreement with
him/her.</div>
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class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal">OK?</div>
<div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal">Seeya
round town, Moscow.</div>
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<div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal">Tom
Hansen</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal">Moscow,
Idaho</div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal">"The
Pessimist complains about the wind, the
Optimist expects it to change <span
class="ecxyiv1601980327apple-style-span">and
the Realist adjusts his sails."</span></div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal">- Unknown</div>
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On Aug 1, 2011, at 11:39, "Jay Borden" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com"
rel="nofollow">jborden@datawedge.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Ok… I
get it… I’m a fiscal conservative and
therefore my legit questions will be
automatically met with snippy and
“hand-waving” answers from the left.</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">But
the article that was POSTED FOR ME TO READ
said that the “shutdown will not affect
airline safety”… Yet in response to my
question, folks are jumping on issues of
SAFETY.</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Either
the folks who snipped back at my
LEGITIMATE question didn’t read the
article that was posted up/shared, or they
believe that it’s all lies… </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">In
either case, I’ll take the article at face
value and assume that the folks that are
furloughed are not part of a “safety”
equation (however that equal sign pencils
out).</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">How
much do we ACTUALLY NEED some of this
stuff? As a nation, we’ve taken such
BROAD strokes to government and spending,
we don’t actually look to see how the
pennies add up to dollars. When my wife
and I look at our home budget, we don’t
just look at the BROAD spending we do in
our home, we look at the NITTY GRITTY
pennies… (well, we obviously can’t cut
FOOD out of our budget, but maybe we can
spend less name-brand cereal and get just
the Malto-Meal stuff?)</span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">It’s a
larger question…. (and keep in mind that I
had my VFR rating, and was on the verge of
my IFR before I let it all lapse just
after 9/11)… how much of this needs to be
kept? </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Jay</span></div>
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style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
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style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> Mike Deleve
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:coolerfixer@roadrunner.com">mailto:coolerfixer@roadrunner.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 30, 2011
4:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jay Borden<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
rel="nofollow">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020]
Impasses lead to shutdown of FAA</span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">Well Jay-</span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">These are the people
that do those unimportant things like
accident investigation, aircraft safety
inspections and a really dumb one.
Licensing of pilots. My application will
be delayed even further now. If your
privileges expire in the time frame that
the FAA has no authority, you can no
longer fly. Period. The airlines may be
hit hard with expiring commercial pilot
licenses. This is no small thing. You
can also bet a certain moron senator
from Oklahoma is involved in this
because of his reckless activity, just
to extract some payback.</span></div>
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style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
title="jborden@datawedge.com"
href="mailto:jborden@datawedge.com"
rel="nofollow">Jay Borden</a> </span></div>
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style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">To:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> <a
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font-size: 10pt;">Sent:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> Monday, July 25,
2011 5:53 PM</span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">Subject:</span></b><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;"> Re: [Vision2020]
Impasses lead to shutdown of FAA</span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">According
to the article, “the shutdown will not
affect airline safety”… then what
exactly are these 4000 people that are
on the payroll doing? </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">And…
do we need them? </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">(Generally,
I’m in favor of many of these
government/agency shutdowns… you’ll
never really know how much government
you can live without until you wake up
and never even realize it was missing)</span></div>
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rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
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style="font-family: 'sans-serif'; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Jay</span></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Hansen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 23, 2011
8:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Moscow Vision 2020<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020]
Impasses lead to shutdown of FAA</span></div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal">Jus'
another attempt by our friendly,
people-oriented Tea . . . er, uh . . . I
mean Republican (it's gettin harder to
tell them apart without DNA) Party to
shut down 'nother one of them commie
pinko socialist unions.</div>
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<div class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal">Courtesy
of The Boston Globe at:</div>
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<h1 style="margin-bottom: 3.75pt;
margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif'; color:
black; font-size: 16.5pt;">Impasses
lead to shutdown of FAA</span></h1>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"
class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
class="ecxyiv1601980327apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:
'serif'; font-size: 11.5pt;">WASHINGTON
- Efforts to avert a shutdown of the
Federal Aviation Administration
failed yesterday amid a disagreement
over a $16.5 million cut in
subsidies to 13 rural communities,
ensuring that at midnight nearly
4,000 people will be temporarily out
of work and federal airline ticket
taxes will be suspended.</span></span></div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">Lawmakers were
unable to resolve a partisan dispute
over an extension of the agency’s
operating authority.</span></div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"
class="ecxyiv1601980327MsoNormal"><span
class="ecxyiv1601980327apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:
'serif'; font-size: 11.5pt;">The
subsidy cut was included by
Republicans in a House bill
extending operating authority for
the FAA, which has a $16 billion
budget. Senate Democrats refused to
accept the House bill with the cuts,
and Republican senators refused to
accept a Democratic bill without it.
Lawmakers then adjourned for the
weekend.</span></span></div>
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<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">But underlying
the dispute on rural air service
subsidies was a standoff between
the GOP-controlled House and the
Democratic-controlled Senate over
a provision in long-term funding
legislation for the FAA that would
make it more difficult for airline
and railroad workers to unionize.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">Obama
administration officials have said
the shutdown will not affect air
safety. Air traffic controllers
will remain on the job. But
airlines will lose the authority
to collect about $200 million a
week in ticket taxes that go into
a trust fund that pays for FAA
programs.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">FAA employees
whose jobs are paid for with trust
fund money will be furloughed,
including nearly 1,000 workers at
the agency’s headquarters in
Washington, 647 workers at FAA’s
technology and research center in
Atlantic City, and 124 workers at
the agency’s training center in
Oklahoma City.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">“These are
real people with families who do
not deserve to be put out of work
during these tough economic
times,’’ FAA Administrator Randy
Babbitt said in a statement.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">Airline
passengers could see a big savings
on their airfares, but the
situation is complicated. Federal
taxes on a $300 round-trip airfare
are about $61, but about half of
that is airport and security fees
that will continue to be
collected, according to the Air
Transport Association.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">Airlines,
alerted earlier this week that FAA
authority could expire, have been
making adjustments to their
computer systems and websites so
that at midnight, taxes will no
longer be added to airfares, the
association said.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">One
airline, US Airways, was already
raising its fares. Other airlines
may try to reap a windfall profit
from the tax holiday.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">Passengers who
bought their tickets before the
shutdown but who travel during the
shutdown may wind up due a refund,
Treasury Department spokeswoman
Sandra Salstrom said. That’s
because it’s not clear whether the
government can keep taxes for
travel that takes place during a
period when the government doesn’t
have authority to collect taxes,
she said.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">Likewise, it’s
not clear if passengers who buy
tickets after midnight with no
taxes included will wind up owing
taxes if their travel takes place
after FAA’s operating authority is
restored, she said.</span></div>
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<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">Long-term
funding authority for the FAA
expired in 2007. Unable to agree
on new long-term funding
legislation for the agency,
Congress has kept the FAA
operating through a series of 20
short-term extension bills. The
extensions had been routine until
this week.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">The Senate
passed a long-term bill in
February; and the House a
different version in April.
Lawmakers have resolved most of
the differences between the bills,
but no progress has been made on a
half dozen or more controversial
issues.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">Republicans
said Senate majority leader Harry
Reid, a Nevada Democrat, is
insisting that a labor provision
in the House bill sought by the
airline industry must be dropped
before negotiations can go
forward.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">The labor
provision would overturn a
National Mediation Board rule
approved last year that allows
airline and railroad employees to
form a union by a simple majority
of those voting. Under the old
rule, workers who didn’t vote were
treated as “no’’ votes. The
Republicans complain that the new
rule reverses 75 years of
precedent to favor labor unions.
Democrats and union officials say
the change puts airline and
railroad elections under the same
democratic rules required for
unionizing all other companies.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">The White
House warned in March that
President Obama might veto the
bill if the labor provision is
retained.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">Just before he
blocked the Democrats’ extension
bill, Senator Orrin Hatch, a Utah
Republican, said he shared House
Republicans’ frustration “that
favors to organized labor have
overshadowed the prospects for
long-term FAA’’ funding.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="line-height: 15.75pt;"><span
style="font-family: 'serif';
font-size: 11.5pt;">Another
unresolved issue involves about
$200 million in air services
subsidies to rural communities.
The program was created when
airlines were deregulated in 1978
to ensure continued air service on
less profitable routes to isolated
communities. The House long-term
FAA bill would eliminate the
program except for airports in
Alaska.</span></div>
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