<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: small; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); ">"Puritanism - the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy." -- or pain free, in this case!</span><br></div><div><br>On Jun 3, 2011, at 12:03 PM, "Art Deco" <<a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><font size="2">The whole opposition to medical marijuana is an example of
extreme ignorance, irrationality, and blind prejudice.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Opium (heroin) and cocaine derivatives are commonly used
in pain killers. Most modern prescription pain killers are synthetic
narcotics -- that's why so many people become addicted to them.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">But where is the squawk about this?</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Marijuana has much fewer side effects than most prescription
pain killers that actually work, for many kinds of common pain it is
extremely effective, and while it may be habit forming, it is not
addictive.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">This is another of many chapters in "Man: The Irrational
Animal." </font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">This also reminds me of Ambrose Bierce's famous
definition:</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div><font size="2">
<div><font color="#0000ff">"Puritanism - the haunting fear that someone,
somewhere, may be happy."</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><br>Wayne A. Fox<br>1009 Karen Lane<br>PO Box 9421<br>Moscow, ID
83843</div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="starbliss@gmail.com" href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">Ted Moffett</a>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="kmmos1@frontier.com" href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com">Kenneth Marcy</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a> ; <a title="tyedye@moscow.com" href="mailto:tyedye@moscow.com">arlene falcon</a> ; <a title="alford@lmtribune.com" href="mailto:alford@lmtribune.com">nathan
alford</a> ; <a title="scengle@lmtribune.com" href="mailto:scengle@lmtribune.com">susan engle</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:39
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] Website Error: Re:
medical marijuana</div>
<div><br></div>The website previously given for info on Robert S de Ropp's
"Drugs and<br>the Mind" appears to have an error. This URL should
work:<br><br><a href="http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.029.0407a"><a href="http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.029.0407a">http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.029.0407a</a></a><br><br>On
6/2/11, Ted Moffett <<a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>>
Kenneth Marcy kmmos1 at <a href="http://frontier.com"><a href="http://frontier.com">frontier.com</a></a><br>> Wed Jun 1 18:03:11 PDT 2011
wrote:<br>> <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2011-June/076771.html"><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2011-June/076771.html">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2011-June/076771.html</a></a><br>><br>>
"So, medical benefits have been known or suspected for twenty years or<br>>
more."<br>> -------<br>> The "medical" benefits of cannabis have at
least been "suspected" for<br>> over a 1000 years.<br>><br>> Decades
ago I read the book "Drugs and the Mind" by Robert S. De Ropp,<br>> where I
learned of Weir Mitchell's 1800s US explorations of hashish<br>> use.
If I recall the text correctly, Mitchell was able to purchase<br>> hashish
in the 1800s from the local apothecary, or whatever they<br>> called it,
legally. I'll not describe the experiences induced, but<br>> Ropp's
"Drugs and the Mind" gives a detailed account, worth reading.<br>> Mitchell
later went on to become a physician.<br>><br>> As can be read from this
website regarding migraine treatment with<br>> cannabis, with extensive
references,<br>> <a href="http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/hemp/medical/omr_russo.htm"><a href="http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/hemp/medical/omr_russo.htm">http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/hemp/medical/omr_russo.htm</a></a><br>>
Mitchell is listed as a source mentioning hashish or cannabis as a<br>>
headache or migraine remedy from the 1800s.<br>><br>> Quote mentioning
Mitchell from 1874:<br>><br>> "Throughout the latter half of the
nineteenth century, many prominent<br>> physicians in Europe and North
America advocated the use of extracts<br>> of Cannabis indica for the
symptomatic and preventive treatment of<br>> headache.<br>><br>>
Proponents included Weir Mitchell in 1874, E.J. Waring in 1874, Hobart<br>>
Hare in 1887, Sir William Gowers in 1888, J.R. Reynolds in 1890, J.B.<br>>
Mattison in 1891, et al., (Walton, 1938; Mikuriya, 1969). Cannabis was<br>>
included in the mainstream pharmacopeias in Britain and America for<br>>
this indication. As late as 1915, Sir William Osler, the acknowledged<br>>
father of modern medicine, stated of migraine treatment (Osler, 1915),<br>>
"Cannabis indica is probably the most satisfactory remedy. Seguin<br>>
recommends a prolonged course." This statement supports its use for<br>>
both acute and prophylactic treatment of migraine. "<br>><br>> Info on
Robert S. De Ropp's book "Drugs and the Mind:"<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.029.0407a\"><a href="http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.029.0407a\">http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.029.0407a\</a></a><br>><br>>
Goolker, P. (1960). Drugs and the Mind: By Robert S. de Ropp. Foreword<br>>
by Nathan S. Kline. New York: Grove Press, Inc., 1960. Originally<br>>
published by St. Martin's Press, 1957. 310 pp.. Psychoanal Q.,<br>>
29:407-409.<br>> -------------<br>> Kenneth Marcy kmmos1 at
<a href="http://frontier.com"><a href="http://frontier.com">frontier.com</a></a><br>> Wed Jun 1 18:03:11 PDT 2011 wrote:<br>><br>> "As a
practical matter, until the federal marijuana laws are changed to<br>>
either<br>> legalize it altogether, or to legalize medical marijuana, or to
allow<br>> states<br>> to set their own policies subject to federal
rules, I doubt much can be<br>> done<br>> that is legally safe,
administratively efficient, and medically<br>> effective. If the<br>>
2012 federal elections bring to office a Congress more conducive to
change,<br>> there may be some better hope for legislative as well as
medical relief."<br>> -------------<br>> As long as Sarah Palin, for
example (she's blathering on as I write,<br>> on CNN), is regarded as a
credible candidate for the presidency by a<br>> large segment of the US
voting public, given what this implies<br>> regarding the mindset of the
electorate, the odds of a "Congress more<br>> conducive to change" on the
federal level regarding liberalizing<br>> federal cannabis laws are rather
low.<br>><br>> There is more concern among Palin's followers with
assuring legal<br>> unregulated access to firearms, than legal medical or
other reasons<br>> for access to cannabis. Comparing the negative
impacts of legal<br>> access to firearms, to the negative impacts from
illegal cannabis,<br>> reveals a migraine inducing inconsistency in the
rational application<br>> of public pressure and lobbying efforts before
the US Congress to<br>> prevent abuses of government control over
individual liberty, assuming<br>> the harm of the behavior that is a
protected liberty, and the harm<br>> induced by rendering a behavor
illegal, are measures of how much<br>> government control is indicated over
the behavior.<br>><br>> I am of course not saying that access to
firearms should be<br>> criminalized like cannabis is, but that to insist
on protecting the<br>> right to carry arms while not insisting on allowing
adults to make<br>> their own legal choices regarding cannabis use, as
astonishing numbers<br>> of people are jailed and persecuted for growing,
selling or using<br>> cannabis, seems like a glaring inconsistency.<br>>
------------------------------------------<br>> Vision2020 Post: Ted
Moffett<br>><br>> On 6/1/11, Kenneth Marcy <<a href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com"><a href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com">kmmos1@frontier.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br>><br>>> On Wednesday 01 June 2011 16:03:18 Bill London
wrote:<br>><br>>>> The essay below was originally posted by Susan
Engle of the Lewiston<br>>>> Tribune on her blog at the Tribune
website, and then reprinted in the<br>>>> Tribune itself on page 8C
today (June 1) on the best of the blogs page.<br>>>> This is the most
powerful statement I have yet read on this issues of<br>>>> pain,
suffering, and relief (and medical marijuana).....thanks<br>>>>
Susan....BL<br>>> <[snip]><br>>><br>>> The requisite
knowledge to stop or alleviate lots of unnecessary pain and<br>>>
suffering has been available for a long time. Being the sometime
science<br>>> student that I am, I just happen to have a copy of the
twelfth edition of<br>>> Hawley's Condensed Chemical Dictionary, edited
by Richard J. Lewis, Sr.<br>>> The<br>>> Library of Congress
number for this edition has 1992 for a date, so this<br>>>
book<br>>> is nearly two decades old. Here are three related
entries:<br>>><br>>> hemp. Soft white fibers 3 - 6
feet long. It is coarser than flax but<br>>> stronger,<br>>> more
glossy, and more durable than cotton. Obtained from the stems of<br>>>
Cannabis<br>>> sativa. Sources: Central Asia, Italy, USSR, India, U.S.
Hazard:<br>>> Combustible.<br>>> May ignite spontaneously when
wet. Use: blended with cotton or flax in<br>>> toweling<br>>> and
heavy fabrics, twine, cordage, packing. See also
cannabis.<br>>><br>>> tetrahydrocannibol.
C(21)H(30)O(2). The active principle of marijuana,<br>>> a<br>>>
hallucinatory drug. It has been synthesized and is available in
lab<br>>> quantities<br>>> subject to legal restrictions. Animal
tests have indicated that it can<br>>> retard<br>>> cancer growth
and may also promote acceptance of organ transplants in the<br>>> human
body.<br>>><br>>> cannabis. (marijuana). CAS:
8063-14-7. Its principle,<br>>> tetrahydrocannabinol,<br>>> can be
made synthetically. Derivation: Dried flowering cups of pistillate<br>>>
plants of Cannabis sativa. Habitat: Iran, India; cultivated in Mexico
and<br>>> Europe. Hazard: A mild hallucinogen. Sale is illegal in U.S.
Use:<br>>> Medicine,<br>>> opthalmology (treatment of
glaucoma).<br>>><br>>> (Yes, I noticed the spelling. The first is
their typo, the second is<br>>> correct.)<br>>><br>>> So,
medical benefits have been known or suspected for twenty years or<br>>>
more.<br>>> What has been done in the interim? Well, here's a
six-year-old Web page<br>>> about<br>>> marijuana hypocrisy: <a href="http://cannabisnews.com/news/20/thread20844.shtml"><a href="http://cannabisnews.com/news/20/thread20844.shtml">http://cannabisnews.com/news/20/thread20844.shtml</a></a><br>>><br>>>
For more up-to-date information, here is the Wikipedia page for
the<br>>> active<br>>> agent, tetrahydrocannabinol:<br>>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol</a></a><br>>><br>>>
As a practical matter, until the federal marijuana laws are changed
to<br>>> either<br>>> legalize it altogether, or to legalize
medical marijuana, or to allow<br>>> states<br>>> to set their own
policies subject to federal rules, I doubt much can be<br>>>
done<br>>> that is legally safe, administratively efficient, and
medically<br>>> effective.<br>>> If the<br>>> 2012 federal
elections bring to office a Congress more conducive to<br>>>
change,<br>>> there may be some better hope for legislative as well as
medical relief.<br>>><br>>><br>>>
Ken<br>>><br>>><br>><br><br>=======================================================<br> List
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