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<DIV>I am a med assist, cert. CNA, first responder, and CPR certified. I am required by law to render assistance within my very limited scope and training unless there is already help there or I cannot help without putting my own life in jeopardy. </DIV>
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<DIV>My CPR and first aid trainer, stated I am required to assist if there is nobody else. </DIV>
<DIV>I would image that is true for all other medically trained people.</DIV>
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<DIV>I would image someone could try to sue if they were injured by a rescue effort of a bystander, but I am sure most judges and juries would throw it out except in extreme cases, like helping when it really was not needed, or someone being careless and reckless.</DIV>
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<DIV>I could not image someone not willing to try and help someone dying if they could. </DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan Arnold<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 5/14/11, Art Deco <I><deco@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Sometimes amateur help is disastrous. Moving someone whose internal bleeding has clotted may cause it to begin again and thus cause death.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A title=godshatter@yahoo.com href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=godshatter@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul Rumelhart</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu">Reggie Holmquist</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 14, 2011 4:45 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Didn't they even put laws in place to make sure that you couldn't be sued if you did help but made things worse? Which is a legitimate concern if such laws were put in place. Amateur help is not always better than no help at all.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>On 05/14/2011 04:18 PM, Reggie Holmquist wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">We covered this pretty extensively in Torts last semester. There is no duty to help someone else unless you have a special relationship with that person (guardian, for example). CPR certification does not create a duty that I am aware of. If it did, that would only discourage people from getting CPR certification.<BR><BR>-Reggie<BR><BR>
<DIV class=yiv680668124gmail_quote>On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Donovan Arnold <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>If you are CPR certified you are required to help. </DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv680668124im>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Breaking news from <SPAN>lmtribune</SPAN>.com<BR></DIV>To: "Donovan Arnold" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>>, "Joe Campbell" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=philosopher.joe@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>>, "<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>Date: Saturday, May 14, 2011, 1:23 PM
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