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<DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you Shirley for a thoughtful reply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Linda and I spend quite a bit of time in Canada pursuing our
hiking, climbing, and wildlife/wildfowl observation interests. We read the
newspapers while there and follow them on the internet from here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The Canadian media has covered the tar sands projects
extensively, and even the most conservative media have pointed out some of the
problems of the tar sands projects including the 2000% increase in cancer rates
among the First Nations peoples downstream from these projects, the amount of
water used in the conversion processes, and the amount of water and air
pollution the relatively small projects so far have produced. Googling the
major Alberta newspapers will supply those not wishing to be terminally ignorant
on this issue with lots of information.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>We very much, but disheartenly agree with you about the lack
of responsibility in our current state leadership. I am sorry that the
powers in charge are so ignorant, arrogant, and insensitive to the problems
inherent in the tar sands projects. By their nonchalance they are leaving
a legacy that in time will dwarf that of our unconscionably large national
debt.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I had hoped that Moscow could put a roadblock in the path of
the megaloads (which should have been routed through Canada in the first place),
and with some creative and determined effort, it could erect such a
roadblock. But it appears that either due to the lack of diligence,
knowledge, and/or caring by some of our local leaders, this probably will
not happen. In this case local leadership is simply voluntary roadkill;
their lack of leadership makes all of us roadkill also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>As for the ITD, Tom Trail and I have been working to solve two
very dangerous situations on U.S. 95 for two years. For our efforts we
have but unfulfilled promises and a change that has made one of the situations
even more dangerous. Both of these problems could be solved easily,
quickly, and cheaply with some signage and repainting of lines. The
ITD gives less than a rat's ass about public concerns despite their twangy,
hypocritical lip service.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you Shirley and Tom for being the voices of concern and
hope on the megaload issue. I am glad I am old and will not live to
see the horrible long range consequences of this folly and to see what other
catastrophes will occur because big money buys its way. The public should
have learned from the last few years: The goals and actions of big money
are seldom in the overall public interests in this current era.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><BR>Wayne A. Fox<BR>1009 Karen Lane<BR>PO Box 9421<BR>Moscow, ID
83843</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</A><BR>208
882-7975<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ringoshirl@moscow.com href="mailto:ringoshirl@moscow.com">Shirley
Ringo</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=deco@moscow.com
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Saint
Augustine: "Hypocrisy is the tribute thatvice pays to virtue."</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It has been very clear all along that ITD and our
Governor gave the OK to the oil companies a long time ago. The companies
didn't have this equipment manufactured in Korea without assurances they would
be able to move it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I believe this whole "permitting process" is all
show, fronting for assurances given long ago.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The unfortunate truth is that the majority of
elected officials don't share our concern. We found no sympathy among
the vast majority of legislators - quite the opposite. The engineers
from ITD are determined to get them through - I think they are delighted to
have the challenge.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>In the 2000 Legislative session, we opened
experimental routes in southeast Idaho for trucks weighing 135,000
pounds. There was supposed to be a report on the effect on pavement and
bridges. That report never came, yet ITD is comfortable with approving
at least 200 shipments of these mega loads.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>We see the Washington legislature acting much
more responsibly, but we just don't have the right folks in decision-making
positions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>This is a major imposition on the people for a
number of reasons. It is definitely not in the public interest.
(We might even want to talk about spills related to the pipe-line delivery of
oil from this project.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>This is one of many frustrations regarding
Idaho's leadership. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Be sure to sign your petitions to allow a vote on
the school laws.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Shirley</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=deco@moscow.com href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 11, 2011 4:26
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Saint
Augustine: "Hypocrisy is the tribute thatvice pays to virtue."</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Bullshit!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Silence about vitally important issues at these kinds of
meetings amounts to tacit approval.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>w.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us
href="mailto:nchaney@ci.moscow.id.us">Nancy Chaney</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=starbliss@gmail.com
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">Ted Moffett</A> ; <A
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=deco@moscow.com
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision
2020</A> ; <A title=kcraine@frontier.com
href="mailto:kcraine@frontier.com">Craine Kit</A> ; <A
title=suehovey@moscow.com href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A>
; <A title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom
Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:01
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Saint Augustine:
"Hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue."</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>All: Thank you for copying me on this exchange. All of the
points are important, and reflect our common concern for this place,
including our community and the planet.<BR><BR>The point of tonight's
meeting is to exchange information about a particular proposal, to be
factually informed and to ask questions and state concerns for the best
possible outcome. <BR><BR>It is not within the City's authority to approve
or deny permits for the ExonMobil loads. It is within ITD's authority to
do so. I encourage attendees to give ITD the tools it needs to make a
reasoned and defensible decision, including addressing whether transport
comports with the standard of necessity (i.e. whether it is inescapable or
compulsory), whether there are feasible alternatives, whether dimensions
and weight have been reduced to the extent possible/practicable, public
safety, access to public facilities, and to anticipate placing conditions
on such aspects as allowable times of use, acceptable durations of delay
and definition thereof, routes, indemnity for injury to persons or
property, allowable conditions of operation (weather, darkness, traffic),
and requirements for flagging, signing, and lighting, etc.
<BR><BR>The topic of dependence on fossil fuels and its environmental
implications is vitally important, but cannot be resolved at tonight's
meeting. I have scheduled a follow-up report and synopsis of tonight's
meeting for the City Council meeting on Mon 5/16, and asked that Moscow
Sustainable Environment Commission take on the task of developing
recommendations based on public input and its own research for the City
Council's consideration. There will be future opportunities for the public
to address those larger concerns. It would be counterproductive to open
that discussion tonight. Thank you for your consideration.<BR><BR>Nancy J.
Chaney, Mayor<BR>City of Moscow<BR>206 E. 3rd St./P.O. Box 9203<BR>Moscow
ID 83843<BR>Ph: (208) 883-7021<BR><A
href="http://www.ci.moscow.id.us">www.ci.moscow.id.us</A><BR><BR><BR>________________________________________<BR>From:
Ted Moffett [starbliss@gmail.com]<BR>Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:48
AM<BR>To: Donovan Arnold; Nancy Chaney<BR>Cc: Art Deco; Vision 2020;
Craine Kit; Sue Hovey; Tom Hansen<BR>Subject: Saint Augustine: "Hypocrisy
is the tribute that vice pays to virtue."<BR><BR>On 5/11/11, Donovan
Arnold <<A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR>> Tom Hansen,<BR>><BR>> Thanks for the history
lesson. But that doesn't change any of the facts on<BR>> the ground.
The meeting is still a farce because it won't be to discuss the<BR>>
concerns of the Idaho and Moscow residents unless they are
technical<BR>> questions about how the transportation will
proceed.<BR><BR>We are to accept that discussion of other so called
non-local issues<BR>regarding the mega-loads are off limits, that this
meeting is to focus<BR>only on the impacts to the city of the loads
passing through the area.<BR> So, to use a worn out yet apt analogy,
if the mega-loads were holding<BR>concentraton camp prisoners on their way
to the gas chambers, as long<BR>as the impacts to the city were
acceptable, the morality or economics<BR>etc. of the ultimate non-local
goals of the mega-loads is not to be<BR>addressed.<BR><BR>Actually, my
analogy is not exactly correct, given that the ultimate<BR>consequences of
the mega-loads will have profound direct local<BR>impacts,
eventually. The oil sands development in Canada is a<BR>profound
moral issue for everyone on this planet, impacting economics<BR>and the
lives of millions of people. I'll let NASA climate
scientist<BR>James Hansen clarify the issue, by quoting excerpts from
his<BR>acceptance speech for the Sophie Prize, given the focus on
Norway's<BR>Statoil investments in Canadian tar sands
development:<BR><BR>Speech by Sophie Prize winner Dr. James E.
Hansen<BR><BR>June 22th 2010<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.sofieprisen.no/Articles/514.html">http://www.sofieprisen.no/Articles/514.html</A><BR><BR>Our
planet today is close to climate tipping points. Ice is melting in<BR>the
Arctic, on Greenland and Antarctica, and on mountain
glaciers<BR>worldwide. Many species are stressed by environmental
destruction and<BR>climate change. Continuing fossil fuel emissions, if
unabated, will<BR>cause sea level rise and species extinction accelerating
out of<BR>humanity's control. Increasing atmospheric water vapor is
already<BR>magnifying climate extremes, increasing overall precipitation,
causing<BR>greater floods and stronger storms.<BR><BR>But our governments
have no intention of solving the fossil fuel and<BR>climate problem, as is
easy to prove: the United States, Canadian and<BR>Norwegian governments
are going right ahead developing the tar sands,<BR>which, if it is not
halted, will make it impossible to stabilize<BR>climate. Our governments
knowingly abdicate responsibility for young<BR>people and future
generations. I have been disappointed in<BR>interactions with more than
half a dozen nations. In the end, they<BR>offer only soothing words,
"goals" for emission reductions at far off<BR>dates, while their actual
deeds prevent stabilization of climate.<BR><BR>The Sophie Prize provides a
new opportunity to draw attention to the<BR>actions that are needed to
stabilize climate. Norway may be the best<BR>place, with its history of
environmentalism. I can imagine Norway<BR>standing tall among nations,
taking real action to address climate<BR>change, drawing attention to the
hypocrisy in the words and<BR>pseudo-actions of other nations.<BR><BR>So I
wrote a letter to the Prime Minister suggesting that the<BR>government, as
the majority owner of Statoil, should intervene in<BR>planned tar sands
development. I appreciate the polite response, by<BR>letter, from the
Deputy Minister of Petroleum and Energy. The<BR>government position is
that the tar sands investment is "a commercial<BR>decision", that the
government should not interfere, and that a "vast<BR>majority in the
Norwegian parliament" agree that this constitutes<BR>"good corporate
governance". The Deputy Minister concluded his letter<BR>"I can however
assure you that we will continue our offensive stance<BR>on climate change
issues both at home and abroad".<BR><BR>A Norwegian grandfather, upon
reading the Deputy Minister's letter,<BR>quoted Saint Augustine:
"Hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to<BR>virtue."<BR><BR>The
Norwegian government's position is a staggering reaffirmation of<BR>the
global situation: even the greenest governments find it
too<BR>inconvenient to address the implication of scientific facts.
Perhaps<BR>our governments are in the hip pocket of the fossil fuel
industry –<BR>but that is not for science to say.<BR><BR>What I can say
from the science is this: the plans that governments,<BR>including Norway,
are adopting spell disaster for young people and<BR>future generations.
And we are running out of time.<BR><BR>Stabilizing climate is a moral
issue, a matter of intergenerational<BR>justice. Young people, and older
people who support the young and the<BR>other species on the planet, must
unite in demanding an effective<BR>approach that preserves our
planet.<BR>------------------------------------------<BR>Vision2020 Post:
Ted Moffett<BR><BR>><BR>> In all fairness, Council President Krauss
was correct that the<BR>> mega-loads were not Moscow's specific concern
because at the time he said it<BR>> the loads were not scheduled to
come through Moscow.<BR>><BR>> The only thing people of Moscow are
being offered is lip service and<BR>> information on how the mega-loads
are going to come roaring through downtown<BR>> in the dead of night.
Where is the meeting on how and what is being done to<BR>> prevent this
from happening? Until that happens, people are just being<BR>> played
with by the politicians, lawyers, and the big oil companies that
fund<BR>> them.<BR>><BR>> Remember Governor Cecil D. Andrus and
how he blocked the Feds from entering<BR>> the state with nuclear
waste?<BR>><BR>> "I've got a state policeman and 15 of his
friends, and all of them are<BR>> prepared to do what is necessary if
that truck makes it inside the borders<BR>> of this state."<BR>> <A
href="http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/08/us/idaho-governor-blocks-shipments-of-atom-waste-to-us-dump-site.html">http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/08/us/idaho-governor-blocks-shipments-of-atom-waste-to-us-dump-site.html</A><BR>><BR>>
Too bad we don't have politicians with courage and a working moral
compass<BR>> today that really look out for the people they represent!
The rights of<BR>> local citizens and property owners, and our pristine
irreplaceable<BR>> environment should not be ignored or put at risk of
destruction in favor of<BR>> the most privileged billionaires that
offer nothing in return for their<BR>> trespasses against
us.<BR>><BR>> Donovan Arnold<BR>><BR>><BR>> --- On Wed,
5/11/11, Tom Hansen <<A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>> From: Tom Hansen <<A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow<BR>>
To: "Donovan Arnold" <<A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>>,
"Art Deco"<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A>>, "Vision 2020"
<<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>>,
"Craine Kit"<BR>> <<A
href="mailto:kcraine@frontier.com">kcraine@frontier.com</A>>, "Sue
Hovey" <<A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A>><BR>>
Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 8:27 AM<BR>><BR>><BR>> A little
history lesson here, Mr. Arnold . . .<BR>><BR>> On June 28, 2010 the
Idaho Transportation Department began what was<BR>> expected to be a
series of community discussions in Moscow, Lewiston, and<BR>>
Kamiah. ITD, Conoco, and ExxonMobil were under the impression that
these<BR>> forums were to be conducted similar to a "high school career
day" where<BR>> representatives from Conoco and ExxonMobil would
present a short speech<BR>> from their respective displays.
Shortly after Rep. Tom Trail arrived at<BR>> the meeting, was informed
of the meeting's format, and had a "discussion"<BR>> with the ITD rep,
the forum was re-formatted to include a Q&A portion.<BR>><BR>>
<A
href="http://www.moscowcares.com/highway12/ITDmtg_062810.htm">http://www.moscowcares.com/highway12/ITDmtg_062810.htm</A><BR>><BR>>
----------------------<BR>><BR>> On August 16, 2010, during the
public commentary portion of the Moscow<BR>> City Council session, it
was suggested that Moscow adopt a resolution<BR>> against the
transporting of oversized loads on Highway 12.<BR>><BR>> To which
Moscow City Council President Wayne Krauss responded, on<BR>> September
6th, that the megaloads were none of Moscow's concern.<BR>><BR>> <A
href="http://www.moscowcares.com/highway12/MoscowCC_PubCom_Hwy12Res.htm">http://www.moscowcares.com/highway12/MoscowCC_PubCom_Hwy12Res.htm</A><BR>><BR>>
----------------------<BR>><BR>> On April 4, 2011 the Idaho
Transportation Department presented a report to<BR>> the Moscow City
Council outlining US95 and I90 as alternate routes for a<BR>> portion
of the Highway 12 megaloads. In strong suggestive language
(using<BR>> terms like "right" and "ethics") Mayor Chaney asked that a
public forum be<BR>> conducted in Moscow so that Moscow's citizens may
be heard on this issue.<BR>><BR>> <A
href="http://www.moscowcares.com/040411_05_MegaloadsITD.htm">http://www.moscowcares.com/040411_05_MegaloadsITD.htm</A><BR>><BR>>
----------------------<BR>><BR>> On April 18, 2011, during the
Moscow City Council session, Mayor Chaney<BR>> presented an update
concerning the potential for megaloads being<BR>> transported through
Moscow on US95.<BR>><BR>> <A
href="http://www.moscowcares.com/041811_05_Megaloads.htm">http://www.moscowcares.com/041811_05_Megaloads.htm</A><BR>><BR>>
------------------------------------<BR>><BR>> So . . . you see, Mr.
Arnold. In my opinion, where the people of Moscow<BR>> are
concerned, Mayor Chaney has their back.<BR>><BR>> Perhaps your
anguish would be better aimed at Moscow City Council<BR>> President
Wayne Krauss who publicly expressed that these megaloads are not<BR>>
of Moscow's concern.<BR>><BR>> Footnote, V-peeps: Although
Rep. Tom Trail and Moscow City Council<BR>> President Wayne Krauss are
both members of the Republican Party, there are<BR>> three words that
clearly define the difference between them . . .<BR>><BR>> CONCERN
FOR CONSTITUENTS<BR>><BR>> You decide who's got your back next time
you step into the voting booth.<BR>><BR>> Seeya round town,
Moscow.<BR>><BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow,
Idaho<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
On Wed, May 11, 2011 6:40 am, Donovan Arnold wrote:<BR>>>
Sue,<BR>>> Â<BR>>> I don't think that Mayor Cheney believes
that the other issues are not of<BR>>> concern. I just don't think
the Mayor can restrict what people can ask,<BR>>> only what she and
her invited speakers are willing to address. I think<BR>>> having a
public forum simply to take only technical questions is rather<BR>>>
pointless unless you are an engineering student. Most people won't
have<BR>>> technical questions about the transport if explained the
process in a<BR>>> well written article posted on the internet and
published in the paper. I<BR>>> think the meeting is a farce if the
real questions and concerns people<BR>>> have are not even allowed
to be asked.<BR>>> Â<BR>>> How about this question? What can
the people do to stop these<BR>>> mega-transports?<BR>>>
Â<BR>>> Donovan Arnold<BR>>><BR>>> --- On Tue, 5/10/11,
Sue Hovey <<A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From: Sue Hovey <<A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A>><BR>>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in
Moscow<BR>>> To: "Art Deco" <<A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A>>, "Vision 2020"
<<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>>,<BR>>>
"Donovan Arnold" <<A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>>,
"Tom Hansen"<BR>>> <<A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>>, "Craine Kit"
<<A
href="mailto:kcraine@frontier.com">kcraine@frontier.com</A>><BR>>>
Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 11:45
PM<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
Tom, Donovan & All,<BR>>> Â<BR>>> I don’t see that
framing the discussion around local issues is a signal<BR>>> that
the Mayor has declared the rest to be ok. It seems to me
the<BR>>> meeting was set to discuss impacts on our city. Those are
the concerns<BR>>> which will determine whether they get a permit to
transport the rigs.Â<BR>>> Obviously the other risks are not
important to the Governor, ITD, and<BR>>> other folks or this
wouldn’t have already happened in Idaho.   As a<BR>>>
group of citizens concerned with this whole mess--how Exxon Mobile
and<BR>>> other oil extractors are willing to do any damage to any
environment, and<BR>>> any people simply to turn a profit—you
point out a legitimate discussion<BR>>> topic for Moscow citizens,
and I bet the mayor is willing to have that<BR>>> meeting,
too. Why not ask her.Â<BR>>> Â<BR>>> Sue
H.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Â<BR>>><BR>>> From: Art
Deco<BR>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:39 PM<BR>>> To:
Vision 2020<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About
Semi-Megaloads in Moscow<BR>>> Â<BR>>><BR>>> These
megaloads are an extremely great deal for us!<BR>>> Â<BR>>> We
can help kill lots of First Nations Canadians and others, cause
the<BR>>> greatest environmental disaster in the history of North
America, and help<BR>>> our sneakiest global competitors, the
Chinese, who own the majority<BR>>> interests in the tar sands
projects, to prosper even more at our expense.<BR>>> Â<BR>>>
Paraphrasing Langston Hughes:Â Everyone benefits from these
megaloads.<BR>>> Big oil gets to ride, we gets to watch them
ride.<BR>>> Â<BR>>> w.<BR>>> Â<BR>>><BR>>>
----- Original Message -----<BR>>> From: Donovan Arnold<BR>>>
To: Tom Hansen ; Craine Kit<BR>>> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020<BR>>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:40 AM<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow<BR>>>
Â<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
My Questions;<BR>>> Â<BR>>> How did the Mayor acquire the
ability to dictate what questions can an<BR>>> cannot be asked? I
understand informing people they will only answer<BR>>> questions
they feel are related to the transport of the megaloads, but
to<BR>>> tell people what they can and cannot ask seems more like a
scripted event<BR>>> than an actual Q&A session.<BR>>>
Â<BR>>> Why should any people be required to allow these megaloads
to be run<BR>>> through their towns when they are not designed to
handle this kind<BR>>> transport? I don't think it would hurt Exxon
Mobile financially to find<BR>>> another means of
transporting their product without disrupting the quality<BR>>> of
life, safety, and well being of others with lesser means than
them.<BR>>> Â<BR>>> Donovan Arnold<BR>>> Â<BR>>>
Â<BR>>> --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Craine Kit <<A
href="mailto:kcraine@frontier.com">kcraine@frontier.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From: Craine Kit <<A
href="mailto:kcraine@frontier.com">kcraine@frontier.com</A>><BR>>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in
Moscow<BR>>> To: "Tom Hansen" <<A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR>>>
Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>>>
Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 9:47 AM<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
Of course, one must ask about the impact of the convoy of 30 or
soÂ<BR>>> vehicles--which is said to take an hour to pass any
particular point.<BR>>><BR>>> Kit
Craine<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
On May 10, 2011, at 5:43 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>>
Courtesy of today's (May 10, 2011) Moscow-Pullman Daily
News.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
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OUR VIEW: Questions about semimegaloads in Moscow<BR>>>> Lee
Rozen, for the editorial board<BR>>>> Posted on: Tuesday, May 10,
2011<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> In the middle of
about 60 nights this year, Imperial Oil/ExxonMobilÂ<BR>>>>
wants<BR>>>> to send oil equipment convoys that are a block or so
long, two lanesÂ<BR>>>> wide<BR>>>> and 16 feet tall
rumbling and blinking north through downtown
Moscow.<BR>>>><BR>>>> The Korean-built equipment would
head from Lewiston via U.S. HighwayÂ<BR>>>> 95,<BR>>>>
Interstate 90 and Montana to the Kearl Oil Sands in Alberta. To
getÂ<BR>>>> each<BR>>>> load from Lewiston to the
Benewah County line should take one night<BR>>>> between 10 p.m.
and 5:30 a.m. Officials promise traffic delays of noÂ<BR>>>>
more<BR>>>> than 15 minutes.<BR>>>><BR>>>> But
the travel plan is under review, and neither Idaho nor Montana
has<BR>>>> issued the necessary permits, or said when they will.
The Moscow<BR>>>> semi-megaload route has been chosen because of
the delays in getting<BR>>>> megaloads up the scenic U.S. Highway
12 corridor.<BR>>>><BR>>>> ExxonMobil and Idaho
Transportation Department officials haveÂ<BR>>>> deigned
to<BR>>>> listen to Moscow's concerns about that at 7 p.m.
Wednesday at theÂ<BR>>>> Hamilton<BR>>>> Indoor
Recreation Center, 1724 E. F St.<BR>>>><BR>>>> At that
meeting. ITD and oil company officials will talk first,
andÂ<BR>>>> then<BR>>>> take questions and comments from
those who have signed in. Also, youÂ<BR>>>> can<BR>>>>
email your thoughts to the ITD at <A
href="mailto:comments@itd.idaho.gov">comments@itd.idaho.gov</A>, and the
City<BR>>>> Council at <A
href="mailto:skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us">skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us</A>.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
Mayor Nancy Chaney apparently has declared the morality of
ExxonMobil<BR>>>> profits, the Kearl Oil Sands project and fossil
fuel consumption<BR>>>> off-limits for discussion Wednesday
night.<BR>>>><BR>>>> ExxonMobil made profits of $10.7
billion in first quarter 2011. SomeÂ<BR>>>> say<BR>>>>
the Kearl Oil Sands project is destroying the Canadian environment
and<BR>>>> killing residents of the
area.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Still, that leaves plenty of
questions that need answers:<BR>>>><BR>>>> Who makes
sure delays are only 15 minutes? What happens if theyÂ<BR>>>>
aren't?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Will all cross-streets in Moscow
be closed?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Is it a delay if traffic keeps
moving at 15 miles an hour behind the<BR>>>> convoy? (The ITD
says it isn't a delay; federal rules say it
is.)<BR>>>><BR>>>> Who pays for moving power lines and
stoplights out of the way?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Will this
semi-megaload convoy be likely to wake me up when it goesÂ<BR>>>>
by my<BR>>>> house or apartment?<BR>>>><BR>>>>
Will you notify shippers - and the media so they can alert
theÂ<BR>>>> public - in<BR>>>> advance of a
convoy?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Once permits are issued, can their
terms be changed without notice?<BR>>>><BR>>>> What if
state police escorts get called to an emergency? Will
thatÂ<BR>>>> stall<BR>>>> the
convoy?<BR>>>><BR>>>> What if Montana won't let the
semi-megaloads in?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Let's hope we hear some
good answers.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
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Seeya there, Moscow.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Tom
Hansen<BR>>>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>>>><BR>>>> "This
is the 'Mouse that Roared,' 'David and Goliath' and 'Avatar'
all<BR>>>> rolled into one. We must remember that the
thousands of citizensÂ<BR>>>> involved<BR>>>> in this
effort to protect their personal and family safety, their<BR>>>>
businesses and their lifestyles are confronting some of the
largest<BR>>>> international corporations in the
world."<BR>>>><BR>>>> - Linwood
Laughy<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR><BR>> "The Pessimist
complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to<BR>> changeand the
Realist adjusts his sails."<BR>><BR>> -
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