No one is comparing anyone to the Nazis. No one said "So-and-so is a Nazi" or "So-and-so is like a Nazi." The analogy was about one type of EXCUSE being like another. Or does Godwin's Law just apply to folks who happen to mention the word "Nazi"?<br>
<br>I just find it ironic how you continually chime in about the speech of others being somewhat below your high standards -- yet the local nutcase advocating slavery should be given a break!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Paul Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<br>
Wow, you've just Godwin'd this thread by comparing this issue to the Nazis. See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law</a><br>
<br>
I'm not looking forward to having to wait an hour for these guys to move a semi-megaload down the highway, but let's try to keep some perspective here. We're talking traffic delays, possible road damage, possible electricity outages, and one giant megacorp putting a little more money in their giant coffers than they otherwise would. Besides, if we "win", they'll just find a more expensive way of moving these things and force the extra cost on to the consumers.<br>
<br>
I'm not saying you're not fighting the good fight, let's just keep it in perspective.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
On 05/11/2011 11:02 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Excusing Krauss because the megaloads weren't anywhere near US95 or Moscow<br>
yet is like justifying the Nazis as long as they knock on somebody else's<br>
door.<br>
<br>
"Lame" doesn't begin to describe that logic.<br>
<br>
Seeya at HIRC tonight, Moscow.<br>
<br>
Tom Hansen<br>
Moscow, Idaho<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, May 11, 2011 10:47 am, Saundra Lund wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">
In part, Donovan wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Remember Governor Cecil D. Andrus and how he blocked the Feds from<br>
entering the state with nuclear waste?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"I've got a state policeman and 15 of his friends, and all of them are<br>
prepared to do what is necessary if that truck makes it inside the<br>
borders of this state."<br>
<br>
</div><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/08/us/idaho-governor-blocks-shipments-of-atom-waste-to-us-dump-site.html" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/08/us/idaho-governor-blocks-shipments-of-atom-waste-to-us-dump-site.html</a><div class="im">
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Too bad we don't have politicians with courage and a working moral compass<br>
today that really look out for the people they represent! The rights of<br>
local citizens and property owners, and our pristine irreplaceable<br>
environment should not be ignored or put at risk of destruction in favor<br>
of the most privileged billionaires that offer nothing in return for their<br>
trespasses against us.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br></div>
Thanks for the fond but all too short stroll down memory lane, Donovan. I<br>
completely agree.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I know Idaho isn’t the only state in this position, but our state<br>
government is rotten to the core now as a direct result, IMHO, of far too<br>
many years of single party (GOP) control. Look where it’s gotten us,<br>
and it’s nowhere good. I’m sure there are still some departments that<br>
haven’t been destroyed by cronyism& corruption, but IDT surely isn’t<br>
one of them.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
And, unfortunately, now isn’t the time to reasonably expect and decent<br>
GOP legislators to stand up to the state party. We need look no further<br>
than our own Rep. Tom Trail to see the retaliation when elected officials<br>
opt to look out for the people they represent rather than following the<br>
whacky& dysfunctional state GOP party line. Tom has served his<br>
constituents well over the years, but all the state party cares about now<br>
is forcing its members to be, essentially, jackbooted thugs willing to<br>
kowtow to big monied special interests (including those from<br>
out-of-state), and those unwilling to sell out are marginalized& stripped<br>
of state positions where they could make a difference. Disgusting.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Saundra Lund<br>
<br>
Moscow, ID<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do<br>
nothing.<br>
<br>
~ Edmund Burke<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2011 through life<br>
plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce<br>
outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of<br>
the author.*****<div class="im"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]<br></div>
On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold<div class="im"><br>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 9:59 AM<br>
To: Art Deco; Vision 2020; Craine Kit; Sue Hovey; Tom Hansen<br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Tom Hansen,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks for the history lesson. But that doesn't change any of the facts on<br>
the ground. The meeting is still a farce because it won't be to discuss<br>
the concerns of the Idaho and Moscow residents unless they are technical<br>
questions about how the transportation will proceed.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
In all fairness, Council President Krauss was correct that the mega-loads<br>
were not Moscow's specific concern because at the time he said it the<br>
loads were not scheduled to come through Moscow.<br>
<br>
The only thing people of Moscow are being offered is lip service and<br>
information on how the mega-loads are going to come roaring through<br>
downtown in the dead of night. Where is the meeting on how and what is<br>
being done to prevent this from happening? Until that happens, people are<br>
just being played with by the politicians, lawyers, and the big oil<br>
companies that fund them.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Remember Governor Cecil D. Andrus and how he blocked the Feds from<br>
entering the state with nuclear waste?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"I've got a state policeman and 15 of his friends, and all of them are<br>
prepared to do what is necessary if that truck makes it inside the<br>
borders of this state."<br>
<br>
</div><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/08/us/idaho-governor-blocks-shipments-of-atom-waste-to-us-dump-site.html" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/08/us/idaho-governor-blocks-shipments-of-atom-waste-to-us-dump-site.html</a><div>
<div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Too bad we don't have politicians with courage and a working moral compass<br>
today that really look out for the people they represent! The rights of<br>
local citizens and property owners, and our pristine irreplaceable<br>
environment should not be ignored or put at risk of destruction in favor<br>
of the most privileged billionaires that offer nothing in return for their<br>
trespasses against us.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Donovan Arnold<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--- On Wed, 5/11/11, Tom Hansen<<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Tom Hansen<<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow<br>
To: "Donovan Arnold"<<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>>, "Art Deco"<br>
<<a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com" target="_blank">deco@moscow.com</a>>, "Vision 2020"<<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>, "Craine Kit"<br>
<<a href="mailto:kcraine@frontier.com" target="_blank">kcraine@frontier.com</a>>, "Sue Hovey"<<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a>><br>
Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 8:27 AM<br>
<br>
A little history lesson here, Mr. Arnold . . .<br>
<br>
On June 28, 2010 the Idaho Transportation Department began what was<br>
expected to be a series of community discussions in Moscow, Lewiston, and<br>
Kamiah. ITD, Conoco, and ExxonMobil were under the impression that these<br>
forums were to be conducted similar to a "high school career day" where<br>
representatives from Conoco and ExxonMobil would present a short speech<br>
from their respective displays. Shortly after Rep. Tom Trail arrived at<br>
the meeting, was informed of the meeting's format, and had a "discussion"<br>
with the ITD rep, the forum was re-formatted to include a Q&A portion.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/highway12/ITDmtg_062810.htm" target="_blank">http://www.moscowcares.com/highway12/ITDmtg_062810.htm</a><br>
<br>
----------------------<br>
<br>
On August 16, 2010, during the public commentary portion of the Moscow<br>
City Council session, it was suggested that Moscow adopt a resolution<br>
against the transporting of oversized loads on Highway 12.<br>
<br>
To which Moscow City Council President Wayne Krauss responded, on<br>
September 6th, that the megaloads were none of Moscow's concern.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/highway12/MoscowCC_PubCom_Hwy12Res.htm" target="_blank">http://www.moscowcares.com/highway12/MoscowCC_PubCom_Hwy12Res.htm</a><br>
<br>
----------------------<br>
<br>
On April 4, 2011 the Idaho Transportation Department presented a report to<br>
the Moscow City Council outlining US95 and I90 as alternate routes for a<br>
portion of the Highway 12 megaloads. In strong suggestive language (using<br>
terms like "right" and "ethics") Mayor Chaney asked that a public forum be<br>
conducted in Moscow so that Moscow's citizens may be heard on this issue.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/040411_05_MegaloadsITD.htm" target="_blank">http://www.moscowcares.com/040411_05_MegaloadsITD.htm</a><br>
<br>
----------------------<br>
<br>
On April 18, 2011, during the Moscow City Council session, Mayor Chaney<br>
presented an update concerning the potential for megaloads being<br>
transported through Moscow on US95.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/041811_05_Megaloads.htm" target="_blank">http://www.moscowcares.com/041811_05_Megaloads.htm</a><br>
<br>
------------------------------------<br>
<br>
So . . . you see, Mr. Arnold. In my opinion, where the people of Moscow<br>
are concerned, Mayor Chaney has their back.<br>
<br>
Perhaps your anguish would be better aimed at Moscow City Council<br>
President Wayne Krauss who publicly expressed that these megaloads are not<br>
of Moscow's concern.<br>
<br>
Footnote, V-peeps: Although Rep. Tom Trail and Moscow City Council<br>
President Wayne Krauss are both members of the Republican Party, there are<br>
three words that clearly define the difference between them . . .<br>
<br>
CONCERN FOR CONSTITUENTS<br>
<br>
You decide who's got your back next time you step into the voting booth.<br>
<br>
Seeya round town, Moscow.<br>
<br>
Tom Hansen<br>
Moscow, Idaho<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, May 11, 2011 6:40 am, Donovan Arnold wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div><div class="h5">
Sue,<br>
Â<br>
I don't think that Mayor Cheney believes that the other issues are not<br>
of<br>
concern. I just don't think the Mayor can restrict what people can ask,<br>
only what she and her invited speakers are willing to address. I think<br>
having a public forum simply to take only technical questions is rather<br>
pointless unless you are an engineering student. Most people won't have<br>
technical questions about the transport if explained the process in a<br>
well written article posted on the internet and published in the paper.<br>
I<br>
think the meeting is a farce if the real questions and concerns people<br>
have are not even allowed to be asked.<br>
Â<br>
How about this question? What can the people do to stop these<br>
mega-transports?<br>
Â<br>
Donovan Arnold<br>
<br>
--- On Tue, 5/10/11, Sue Hovey<<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a><br></div></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com</a>> ><div class="im"><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Sue Hovey<<a href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">suehovey@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com</a>> ><div class="im"><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow<br>
To: "Art Deco"<<a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com" target="_blank">deco@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=deco@moscow.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=deco@moscow.com</a>> >,<div class="im"><br>
"Vision 2020"<<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com</a>> >,<div class="im"><br>
"Donovan Arnold"<<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a><br></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>><div class="im"><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
, "Tom Hansen"<br>
</blockquote>
<<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com</a>> >,<div class="im"><br>
"Craine Kit"<<a href="mailto:kcraine@frontier.com" target="_blank">kcraine@frontier.com</a><br></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kcraine@frontier.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kcraine@frontier.com</a>> ><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 11:45 PM<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Tom, Donovan& All,<br>
Â<br>
I don’t see that framing the discussion around local issues is a<br>
signal<br>
that the Mayor has declared the rest to be ok. It seems to me the<br>
meeting was set to discuss impacts on our city. Those are the concerns<br>
which will determine whether they get a permit to transport the rigs.Â<br>
Obviously the other risks are not important to the Governor, ITD, and<br>
other folks or this wouldn’t have already happened in Idaho. Â<br>
 As a<br>
group of citizens concerned with this whole mess--how Exxon Mobile and<br>
other oil extractors are willing to do any damage to any environment,<br>
and<br>
any people simply to turn a profit you point out a legitimate<br>
discussion<br>
topic for Moscow citizens, and I bet the mayor is willing to have that<br>
meeting, too. Why not ask her.Â<br>
Â<br>
Sue H.<br>
<br>
<br>
Â<br>
<br>
From: Art Deco<br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:39 PM<br>
To: Vision 2020<br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow<br>
Â<br>
<br>
These megaloads are an extremely great deal for us!<br>
Â<br>
We can help kill lots of First Nations Canadians and others, cause the<br>
greatest environmental disaster in the history of North America, and<br>
help<br>
our sneakiest global competitors, the Chinese, who own the majority<br>
interests in the tar sands projects, to prosper even more at our<br>
expense.<br>
Â<br>
Paraphrasing Langston Hughes:Â Everyone benefits from these megaloads.<br>
Big oil gets to ride, we gets to watch them ride.<br>
Â<br>
w.<br>
Â<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: Donovan Arnold<br>
To: Tom Hansen ; Craine Kit<br>
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020<br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:40 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow<br>
Â<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
My Questions;<br>
Â<br>
How did the Mayor acquire the ability to dictate what questions can an<br>
cannot be asked? I understand informing people they will only answer<br>
questions they feel are related to the transport of the megaloads, but<br>
to<br>
tell people what they can and cannot ask seems more like a scripted<br>
event<br>
than an actual Q&A session.<br>
Â<br>
Why should any people be required to allow these megaloads to be run<br>
through their towns when they are not designed to handle this kind<br>
transport? I don't think it would hurt Exxon Mobile financially to<br>
find<br>
another means of transporting their product without disrupting the<br>
quality<br>
of life, safety, and well being of others with lesser means than them.<br>
Â<br>
Donovan Arnold<br>
Â<br>
Â<br>
--- On Tue, 5/10/11, Craine Kit<<a href="mailto:kcraine@frontier.com" target="_blank">kcraine@frontier.com</a><br></div></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kcraine@frontier.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kcraine@frontier.com</a>> ><div class="im"><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
From: Craine Kit<<a href="mailto:kcraine@frontier.com" target="_blank">kcraine@frontier.com</a><br></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kcraine@frontier.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kcraine@frontier.com</a>> ><div class="im"><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Questions About Semi-Megaloads in Moscow<br>
To: "Tom Hansen"<<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com</a>> ><div class="im"><br>
Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020"<<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com</a>> ><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 9:47 AM<br>
<br>
<br>
Of course, one must ask about the impact of the convoy of 30 or soÂ<br>
vehicles--which is said to take an hour to pass any particular point.<br>
<br>
Kit Craine<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On May 10, 2011, at 5:43 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:<br>
<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div><div class="h5">
Courtesy of today's (May 10, 2011) Moscow-Pullman Daily News.<br>
<br>
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<br>
OUR VIEW: Questions about semimegaloads in Moscow<br>
Lee Rozen, for the editorial board<br>
Posted on: Tuesday, May 10, 2011<br>
<br>
<br>
In the middle of about 60 nights this year, Imperial Oil/ExxonMobilÂ<br>
wants<br>
to send oil equipment convoys that are a block or so long, two lanesÂ<br>
wide<br>
and 16 feet tall rumbling and blinking north through downtown Moscow.<br>
<br>
The Korean-built equipment would head from Lewiston via U.S. HighwayÂ<br>
95,<br>
Interstate 90 and Montana to the Kearl Oil Sands in Alberta. To getÂ<br>
each<br>
load from Lewiston to the Benewah County line should take one night<br>
between 10 p.m. and 5:30 a.m. Officials promise traffic delays of noÂ<br>
more<br>
than 15 minutes.<br>
<br>
But the travel plan is under review, and neither Idaho nor Montana has<br>
issued the necessary permits, or said when they will. The Moscow<br>
semi-megaload route has been chosen because of the delays in getting<br>
megaloads up the scenic U.S. Highway 12 corridor.<br>
<br>
ExxonMobil and Idaho Transportation Department officials haveÂ<br>
deigned to<br>
listen to Moscow's concerns about that at 7 p.m. Wednesday at theÂ<br>
Hamilton<br>
Indoor Recreation Center, 1724 E. F St.<br>
<br>
At that meeting. ITD and oil company officials will talk first, andÂ<br>
then<br>
take questions and comments from those who have signed in. Also, youÂ<br>
can<br>
email your thoughts to the ITD at <a href="mailto:comments@itd.idaho.gov" target="_blank">comments@itd.idaho.gov</a><br></div></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=comments@itd.idaho.gov" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=comments@itd.idaho.gov</a>> ,<div class="im"><br>
and the City<br>
Council at <a href="mailto:skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us</a><br></div>
<<a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us" target="_blank">http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skalasz@ci.moscow.id.us</a>><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
.<br>
<br>
Mayor Nancy Chaney apparently has declared the morality of ExxonMobil<br>
profits, the Kearl Oil Sands project and fossil fuel consumption<br>
off-limits for discussion Wednesday night.<br>
<br>
ExxonMobil made profits of $10.7 billion in first quarter 2011. SomeÂ<br>
say<br>
the Kearl Oil Sands project is destroying the Canadian environment and<br>
killing residents of the area.<br>
<br>
Still, that leaves plenty of questions that need answers:<br>
<br>
Who makes sure delays are only 15 minutes? What happens if theyÂ<br>
aren't?<br>
<br>
Will all cross-streets in Moscow be closed?<br>
<br>
Is it a delay if traffic keeps moving at 15 miles an hour behind the<br>
convoy? (The ITD says it isn't a delay; federal rules say it is.)<br>
<br>
Who pays for moving power lines and stoplights out of the way?<br>
<br>
Will this semi-megaload convoy be likely to wake me up when it goesÂ<br>
by my<br>
house or apartment?<br>
<br>
Will you notify shippers - and the media so they can alert theÂ<br>
public - in<br>
advance of a convoy?<br>
<br>
Once permits are issued, can their terms be changed without notice?<br>
<br>
What if state police escorts get called to an emergency? Will thatÂ<br>
stall<br>
the convoy?<br>
<br>
What if Montana won't let the semi-megaloads in?<br>
<br>
Let's hope we hear some good answers.<br>
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Seeya there, Moscow.<br>
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Tom Hansen<br>
Moscow, Idaho<br>
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"This is the 'Mouse that Roared,' 'David and Goliath' and 'Avatar' all<br>
rolled into one. We must remember that the thousands of citizensÂ<br>
involved<br>
in this effort to protect their personal and family safety, their<br>
businesses and their lifestyles are confronting some of the largest<br>
international corporations in the world."<br>
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- Linwood Laughy<br>
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