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I was going to reply along these lines, myself. <br>
<br>
We get it. You all hate Doug Wilson and his church, and anything
connected with it. But I like to follow the legal fiction that this
guy is free to do as he likes with regards to his personal
relationships that are not explicitly forbidden in his court
documents (assuming, of course, that no new laws are being broken),
even if you all don't agree with it.<br>
<br>
I mean, what exactly is the alternative? Stake him to the ground
and let the buzzards get him?<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
<br>
On 05/04/2011 08:44 PM, Kai Eiselein wrote:
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All this from the "its nobody's business about who marries who"
crowd.<br>
While Sitler's actions with children are a definate concern to the
community, I really don't see how who he marries, or who marries
him is anyone else's business, assuming she is an adult.<br>
Now, stop acting like a bunch of gossiping women at the
hairdresser and take your own advice and butt the f--k out.<br>
<br>
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> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:36:21 -0700 (PDT)<br>
> From: "Tom Hansen" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><thansen@moscow.com></a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler Travis Wedding<br>
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> To quote one of my favorite lines from "West Side Story"
after Maria (one<br>
> of the girlfriends of one of the Sharks' gang members) had
gotten in Russ<br>
> Tamblyn's (the leader of the Jets) face and unloaded on him,
one of the<br>
> Jets proclaims . . .<br>
> <br>
> "The girl's got spunk!"<br>
> <br>
> Same at ya, Rose.<br>
> <br>
> Tom Hansen<br>
> Moscow, Idaho<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 6:31 pm, Rosemary Huskey wrote:<br>
> > Visionaries,<br>
> ><br>
> > About a month ago I published an email on V2020
addressed to Doug Wilson<br>
> > and<br>
> > his elders regarding the forthcoming marriage of Steven
Sitler and Katie<br>
> > Travis <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://june11eleven.com/"><http://june11eleven.com/></a> . I specifically
named the elders so<br>
> > that<br>
> > in their daily out and about in Moscow you would know
who they are and<br>
> > what<br>
> > they represent. Now, I will answer some of the questions
that I<br>
> > (rhetorically) asked them. (They didn't bother to answer
me.) A degree of<br>
> > culpability for supporting this sacrilegious "marriage"
covers all of<br>
> > them,<br>
> > but some actors are more deeply involved than others.<br>
> ><br>
> > The following list of elders (with the exception of John
Grauke - who<br>
> > depends on the Kirk to supply patients to him so is
beholden indirectly to<br>
> > Doug) are employed by Kirk owned or allied ventures.
Nothing keeps the<br>
> > toadies in line like a regular pay check. Ben Merkle is
on the faculty of<br>
> > New Saint Andrews and is married to Doug's eldest
daughter, who<br>
> > mysteriously<br>
> > refers to her father as a Presbyterian minister on press
releases for her<br>
> > business<br>
> >
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.ttfabrics.net/cgi-bin/fabricshop/designer.cgi?designer=71"><http://www.ttfabrics.net/cgi-bin/fabricshop/designer.cgi?designer=71></a>
.<br>
> > When did that ordination happen, Doug? Gordon Wilson is
Doug's brother.<br>
> ><br>
> > Dale Courtney, Dr. John Grauke, Matt Gray, Ed Iverson,
Mike Lawyer, Csaba<br>
> > Leidenfrost, Ben Merkle, Jim Nance, John Sawyer, Wes
Struble, Matt<br>
> > Whitling,<br>
> > and Gordon Wilson, and Pastor Doug Wilson<br>
> ><br>
> > Katie Travis and Steven Sitler are "grateful" to NSA
librarian and church<br>
> > elder Ed Iverson and his wife
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://june11eleven.com/?page_id=114"><http://june11eleven.com/?page_id=114></a> for<br>
> > arranging their meeting and supporting their courtship.
It is disturbing<br>
> > to<br>
> > learn that Miss Travis had known Mr. and Mrs. Iverson
for many years prior<br>
> > to her arrival at NSA. She boarded with them during her
NSA tenure. I<br>
> > know<br>
> > there is a word for a person who procures women for men,
but I don't know<br>
> > the word for someone who engineers a marriage with a
serial pedophile. It<br>
> > is true that Miss Travis asked Ed Iverson to find a
suitable husband for<br>
> > her, but I can't imagine she meant a child molesting
felon.<br>
> ><br>
> > I wondered if her home church pastor was aware of this
travesty. Silly<br>
> > me.<br>
> > Of course he was aware. Click on the links for more info
on Tim Tucker.<br>
> > The<br>
> > bolding in the bottom line of his vita is mine.<br>
> ><br>
> > "Pastor Rev. Tim Tucker
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.logosfallon.com/staff/tucker.php"><http://www.logosfallon.com/staff/tucker.php></a> was<br>
> > born in Sandpoint, Idaho, but grew-up in Connell,
Washington with an older<br>
> > brother. If he could live anywhere it would be "Right
here in Fallon, I<br>
> > love<br>
> > it here!" Tim is the Pastor of Immanuel Presbyterian
Church here in<br>
> > Fallon,<br>
> > and also serves as the Headmaster of our school. Tim
teaches at LCA [Logos<br>
> > Christian Academy] because he wants to see generational
growth in God's<br>
> > Kingdom in Fallon. In his free time he likes to date his
wife, play with<br>
> > his<br>
> > children and read. Tim is married to Carleen (for 34
years), and they have<br>
> > eleven blessed children: Heather, Heidi, Holly, Forrest,
Hillary, Hannah,<br>
> > Fred, Ford, Freeman, Finn and Hallie. He is also the
proud grandpa of nine<br>
> > grandchildren with another on the way! Mr. Tucker is
committed to<br>
> > classical<br>
> > education and to the work of rearing up children in the
ways of the Lord.<br>
> > He has been involved in education from a Christian
perspective for over 25<br>
> > years. He has lived in Fallon since 2001.<br>
> > Education:<br>
> > B.A. (Religion and Philosophy) from Northwest Nazarene
University<br>
> > Fellow of Greyfriar's Hall, Moscow, ID (M.Div.
equivalent)<br>
> ><br>
> > What's with the Pastor Rev. crapola? I don't see any
evidence that a<br>
> > genuine (recognized by a national affiliation)
Presbyterian church<br>
> > ordained<br>
> > him. Perhaps it is the same church that laid hands on
Doug. Or, could it<br>
> > be<br>
> > that he is claiming affiliation with a respected
denomination to boost his<br>
> > own rather rickety credentials? And yes, it is not
accidental that fat<br>
> > old<br>
> > Friar Tuck has also started a Logos clone. School start
up is part of the<br>
> > requirements for graduation from Doug's pseudo-seminary,
Greyfriar's Hall.<br>
> > (Note the loop effect, Greyfriar graduates have to start
up a Logos style<br>
> > school which in turn must pay to join Doug's school
accreditation business<br>
> > the Association of Classical Christian Schools
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.accsedu.org/"><http://www.accsedu.org/></a> .<br>
> > Kirkers may claim it's about a worldview, but since
money is part of every<br>
> > transaction, it really is all about the money. Can you
smell the pyramid<br>
> > scheme lurking in the background?)<br>
> ><br>
> > If you know anyone if Fallon, Nevada who is looking for
a church home, I'd<br>
> > sure as heck steer them away from this one. If you'd
like to ask Pastor<br>
> > Rev. Tucker what led him down this path his email is:<br>
> > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:friartuck53@cccomm.net">friartuck53@cccomm.net</a>). Don't expect an answer though;
he is not<br>
> > interested in explaining his role in this ungodly
marriage. Taking<br>
> > responsibility for bad behavior has never been a high
priority in CREC<br>
> > (Confederation of Reformed Evangelical Churches - Doug
Wilson's home-grown<br>
> > invention of like-minded individuals.) Incidentally,
CREC utilizes a<br>
> > presbyterian [note the small "p" it is an adjective not
a noun] style of<br>
> > church governance. Capitalizing the P does not mean that
they meet any of<br>
> > the requirements for ordination, nor are they associated
with nationally<br>
> > recognized Presbyterian churches. For example, they are
not, absolutely<br>
> > not, associated with the real live local Presbyterian
Church. Does anyone<br>
> > think for a moment that because I live in a town called
Moscow; saw the<br>
> > movie Black Swan; and conduct ballet classes on my back
patio, that I am<br>
> > somehow entitled to describe my pretend classes as an
extension school of<br>
> > the Bolshi? Same deal, and just as ridiculous as Doug's
loony claim.<br>
> ><br>
> > Speaking of ministers, how 'bout Pastor Eby of our local
Nazarene Church?<br>
> > What makes him tick? Why in the world did he get
involved with this mess?<br>
> > If he didn't know about Sitler's crimes when the church
was rented, he<br>
> > certainly knows now. I wonder what his congregation
thinks about this use<br>
> > of their church? It kinda reminds me of the warning in
Matthew 21:12<br>
> >
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+21&version=NIV"><http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+21&version=NIV></a>
. I<br>
> > don't have a doubt in the world that Pastor Eby would be
unwilling to<br>
> > rent<br>
> > his church to a person who is a notorious abortion
provider. I have<br>
> > always<br>
> > wondered why there is an overwhelming concern to protect
the unborn<br>
> > "child"<br>
> > but not so much for babies after birth. Steven Sitler
has in effect<br>
> > murdered the spirits of countless children<br>
> >
<<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.findcounseling.com/journal/child-abuse/survivors-childhood-abuse">http://www.findcounseling.com/journal/child-abuse/survivors-childhood-abuse</a><br>
> > .html> but I guess that doesn't count when someone
pays top dollar to use<br>
> > the sanctuary. (Doug Wilson will perform the service.)<br>
> ><br>
> > Are you seeing the pattern of spiritually corrupt CREC
ministers in this<br>
> > mess? As to the parents of both the bride and groom -
they are beyond<br>
> > shame, I get that. No father in his right mind would
give his permission<br>
> > (which is generally required in CREC marriages) to this
grotesque match.<br>
> > As<br>
> > far as the Sitler seniors are concerned, they appear to
be ecstatic that<br>
> > they are marrying off that nasty piece of work they
hatched. They have<br>
> > left<br>
> > their old church<br>
> >
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/CR_2005_02027/Private_Letter.htm"><http://www.tomandrodna.com/CR_2005_02027/Private_Letter.htm></a>
- the one<br>
> > that dis-fellowed Steven when he admitted to molesting
children (including<br>
> > at least one in their congregation) - in favor of a new
CREC church<br>
> > <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://knox.crecpresbytery.org/"><http://knox.crecpresbytery.org/></a> plant in
Colville. Everywhere I look I<br>
> > see the footprints of Doug Wilson's size 14 combat
boots.<br>
> ><br>
> > And here is the point of this series of emails. When
Doug and the boys<br>
> > rip<br>
> > off community members in Moscow by running gambling
casinos, illegal<br>
> > boarding houses, plunking a college and an
under-the-radar boys school in<br>
> > central Moscow, or not paying taxes when they rented
space to for- profit<br>
> > businesses on tax free property they are a pain in the
ass. And, yes,<br>
> > thanks to the lack of backbones the city council let
them get by with<br>
> > their<br>
> > self-entitled bull shit. The Daily News has had a
long-term love affair<br>
> > with all things Kirkish for years. A bottle of wine goes
a long way to<br>
> > buying good press I guess. Again, annoying but not worth
much more in the<br>
> > long run than throwing up ones hands and sighing. I know
that calling out<br>
> > the Kirk is risky business. And, most folks have the
mother wit not to<br>
> > get<br>
> > involved. After all, there is a price to pay for
pointing out their<br>
> > nastiness. Saundra and I, not to mention Tom Hanson, are
keenly aware of<br>
> > this. But we won't stop - silence is acquiescence and we
would be ashamed<br>
> > of ourselves if we cut and ran when things get a
uncomfortable.<br>
> > (Curiously,<br>
> > shame is a motivator for us, but Kirkers, not so much.)<br>
> ><br>
> > This wedding is a different kettle of fish - it involves
so much more than<br>
> > cheap chiselers thumbing their noses at city
regulations. This is the<br>
> > culmination of years of unrelenting propaganda that
preaches the sole<br>
> > purpose of women on this earth is to marry and breed. Of
course Miss<br>
> > Travis<br>
> > wants a husband, how could she be a real grown up
without one? Getting<br>
> > married means that God is blessing you. Failure to snag
a husband means<br>
> > that<br>
> > no matter what else you accomplish, you are a failure,
half a person,<br>
> > incomplete, in the eyes of the faithful. This
unrelenting message leads<br>
> > foolish young woman like Miss Travis to become engaged
on a second date to<br>
> > a<br>
> > really creepy criminal. Her obsessive desire to be
married is heart<br>
> > breaking on many levels.<br>
> ><br>
> > But, my sympathy for Miss Travis, although sincere, has
to be measured<br>
> > against what I am sure is her desire to have children.
Someone has to be<br>
> > the advocate for the (potential) children of this union.
It is clear that<br>
> > neither set of grandparents give a damn about what could
happen to<br>
> > children<br>
> > in the home of a serial pedophile. Their lack of concern
rules them out<br>
> > as<br>
> > responsible parents or grandparents. There is no way on
this earth that<br>
> > Miss Travis, who after all is choosing to marry a
molester of toddlers,<br>
> > is<br>
> > competent to protect her babies. (Think about it, how
likely is it that<br>
> > she<br>
> > will turn him in when, if convicted, he will spend the
rest of his life in<br>
> > prison?)<br>
> ><br>
> > And so, as unpleasant as it is, these emails are my only
hope that at<br>
> > least<br>
> > our community (and anyone who googles the names in this
email) will be<br>
> > aware<br>
> > of what is happening June 11, 2011, thanks to the
principal enablers in<br>
> > this<br>
> > hellish drama. Stand up and take a bow parents, Don and
Betsy Travis;<br>
> > Roxanne and Dave Sitler; "adopted grandparents" Ed and
Paula Iverson; and<br>
> > pastors Doug Wilson; Tim Tucker; and to a lesser extent
Ed Eby. The<br>
> > elders<br>
> > in both CREC churches who support this marriage also
bear a responsibility<br>
> > for going along to get along. Once again, please
remember the names of<br>
> > Christ Church elders in Moscow:<br>
> ><br>
> > Dale Courtney, Dr. John Grauke, Matt Gray, Ed Iverson,
Mike Lawyer, Csaba<br>
> > Leidenfrost, Ben Merkle, Jim Nance, John Sawyer, Wes
Struble, Matt<br>
> > Whitling,<br>
> > and Gordon Wilson, and Pastor Doug Wilson<br>
> ><br>
> > for they are men who promoted/protected evil to achieve
God only knows<br>
> > what. (One can't help but speculate if ample donations
to the New Saint<br>
> > Andrews library have appeared over the last six months)
I can say<br>
> > unequivocally, not a one of them would have permitted
Steven Sitler to<br>
> > marry<br>
> > their own daughters. Sadly, Miss Travis was groomed by
these jackasses,<br>
> > and<br>
> > their CREC brothers to be expendable.<br>
> ><br>
> > Rose Huskey<br>
> ><br>
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> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 20:05:07 -0700<br>
> From: "Art Deco" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><deco@moscow.com></a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler Travis Wedding<br>
> To: "Vision 2020" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><vision2020@moscow.com></a><br>
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> Rose,<br>
> <br>
> Thank you for an excellent post giving the facts and exposing
the egregious, sacrilegious lack of moral values exhibited by the
parties involved. I agree with what you say, perhaps even with
stronger feelings of anger, disgust, and deep sorrow for the
victims past and present.<br>
> <br>
> Let us not forget the non-cult locals who have enabled this
fetid union and its consequences by their laziness, ineptitude,
lack of judgment, and lack of compassion for the victims of
pedophiles, past present, and future: Prosecutor William Thompson,
Sheriff Wayne Rausch, and Judge John Stegner.<br>
> <br>
> As citizens we have no control over the twisted, morally
depraved crackpots that rule and people the hierarchy of the
Christ Church Cult. But we do have the power and control at the
polls to oust the public officials who are enablers of pedophilia.
We need to use this power.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Wayne A. Fox<br>
> 1009 Karen Lane<br>
> PO Box 9421<br>
> Moscow, ID 83843<br>
> <br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:waf@moscow.com">waf@moscow.com</a><br>
> 208 882-7975<br>
> <br>
> ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> From: Rosemary Huskey <br>
> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> <br>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 6:31 PM<br>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Sitler Travis Wedding<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Visionaries,<br>
> <br>
> About a month ago I published an email on V2020 addressed to
Doug Wilson and his elders regarding the forthcoming marriage of
Steven Sitler and Katie Travis. I specifically named the elders so
that in their daily out and about in Moscow you would know who
they are and what they represent. Now, I will answer some of the
questions that I (rhetorically) asked them. (They didn't bother to
answer me.) A degree of culpability for supporting this
sacrilegious "marriage" covers all of them, but some actors are
more deeply involved than others.<br>
> <br>
> The following list of elders (with the exception of John
Grauke - who depends on the Kirk to supply patients to him so is
beholden indirectly to Doug) are employed by Kirk owned or allied
ventures. Nothing keeps the toadies in line like a regular pay
check. Ben Merkle is on the faculty of New Saint Andrews and is
married to Doug's eldest daughter, who mysteriously refers to her
father as a Presbyterian minister on press releases for her
business. When did that ordination happen, Doug? Gordon Wilson is
Doug's brother.<br>
> <br>
> Dale Courtney, Dr. John Grauke, Matt Gray, Ed Iverson, Mike
Lawyer, Csaba Leidenfrost, Ben Merkle, Jim Nance, John Sawyer, Wes
Struble, Matt Whitling, and Gordon Wilson, and Pastor Doug Wilson<br>
> <br>
> Katie Travis and Steven Sitler are "grateful" to NSA
librarian and church elder Ed Iverson and his wife for arranging
their meeting and supporting their courtship. It is disturbing to
learn that Miss Travis had known Mr. and Mrs. Iverson for many
years prior to her arrival at NSA. She boarded with them during
her NSA tenure. I know there is a word for a person who procures
women for men, but I don't know the word for someone who engineers
a marriage with a serial pedophile. It is true that Miss Travis
asked Ed Iverson to find a suitable husband for her, but I can't
imagine she meant a child molesting felon. <br>
> <br>
> I wondered if her home church pastor was aware of this
travesty. Silly me. Of course he was aware. Click on the links for
more info on Tim Tucker. The bolding in the bottom line of his
vita is mine.<br>
> <br>
> "Pastor Rev. Tim Tucker was born in Sandpoint, Idaho, but
grew-up in Connell, Washington with an older brother. If he could
live anywhere it would be "Right here in Fallon, I love it here!"
Tim is the Pastor of Immanuel Presbyterian Church here in Fallon,
and also serves as the Headmaster of our school. Tim teaches at
LCA [Logos Christian Academy] because he wants to see generational
growth in God's Kingdom in Fallon. In his free time he likes to
date his wife, play with his children and read. Tim is married to
Carleen (for 34 years), and they have eleven blessed children:
Heather, Heidi, Holly, Forrest, Hillary, Hannah, Fred, Ford,
Freeman, Finn and Hallie. He is also the proud grandpa of nine
grandchildren with another on the way! Mr. Tucker is committed to
classical education and to the work of rearing up children in the
ways of the Lord. He has been involved in education from a
Christian perspective for over 25 years. He has lived in Fallon
since 2001.<br>
> Education:<br>
> B.A. (Religion and Philosophy) from Northwest Nazarene
University<br>
> Fellow of Greyfriar's Hall, Moscow, ID (M.Div. equivalent)<br>
> <br>
> What's with the Pastor Rev. crapola? I don't see any evidence
that a genuine (recognized by a national affiliation) Presbyterian
church ordained him. Perhaps it is the same church that laid hands
on Doug. Or, could it be that he is claiming affiliation with a
respected denomination to boost his own rather rickety
credentials? And yes, it is not accidental that fat old Friar Tuck
has also started a Logos clone. School start up is part of the
requirements for graduation from Doug's pseudo-seminary,
Greyfriar's Hall. (Note the loop effect, Greyfriar graduates have
to start up a Logos style school which in turn must pay to join
Doug's school accreditation business the Association of Classical
Christian Schools. Kirkers may claim it's about a worldview, but
since money is part of every transaction, it really is all about
the money. Can you smell the pyramid scheme lurking in the
background?) <br>
> <br>
> If you know anyone if Fallon, Nevada who is looking for a
church home, I'd sure as heck steer them away from this one. If
you'd like to ask Pastor Rev. Tucker what led him down this path
his email is: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:friartuck53@cccomm.net">friartuck53@cccomm.net</a>). Don't expect an answer
though; he is not interested in explaining his role in this
ungodly marriage. Taking responsibility for bad behavior has never
been a high priority in CREC (Confederation of Reformed
Evangelical Churches - Doug Wilson's home-grown invention of
like-minded individuals.) Incidentally, CREC utilizes a
presbyterian [note the small "p" it is an adjective not a noun]
style of church governance. Capitalizing the P does not mean that
they meet any of the requirements for ordination, nor are they
associated with nationally recognized Presbyterian churches. For
example, they are not, absolutely not, associated with the real
live local Presbyterian Church. Does anyone think for a moment
that because I live in a town called Moscow; !<br>
> saw the movie Black Swan; and conduct ballet classes on my
back patio, that I am somehow entitled to describe my pretend
classes as an extension school of the Bolshi? Same deal, and just
as ridiculous as Doug's loony claim. <br>
> <br>
> Speaking of ministers, how 'bout Pastor Eby of our local
Nazarene Church? What makes him tick? Why in the world did he get
involved with this mess? If he didn't know about Sitler's crimes
when the church was rented, he certainly knows now. I wonder what
his congregation thinks about this use of their church? It kinda
reminds me of the warning in Matthew 21:12. I don't have a doubt
in the world that Pastor Eby would be unwilling to rent his church
to a person who is a notorious abortion provider. I have always
wondered why there is an overwhelming concern to protect the
unborn "child" but not so much for babies after birth. Steven
Sitler has in effect murdered the spirits of countless children
but I guess that doesn't count when someone pays top dollar to use
the sanctuary. (Doug Wilson will perform the service.)<br>
> <br>
> Are you seeing the pattern of spiritually corrupt CREC
ministers in this mess? As to the parents of both the bride and
groom - they are beyond shame, I get that. No father in his right
mind would give his permission (which is generally required in
CREC marriages) to this grotesque match. As far as the Sitler
seniors are concerned, they appear to be ecstatic that they are
marrying off that nasty piece of work they hatched. They have left
their old church - the one that dis-fellowed Steven when he
admitted to molesting children (including at least one in their
congregation) - in favor of a new CREC church plant in Colville.
Everywhere I look I see the footprints of Doug Wilson's size 14
combat boots. <br>
> <br>
> And here is the point of this series of emails. When Doug and
the boys rip off community members in Moscow by running gambling
casinos, illegal boarding houses, plunking a college and an
under-the-radar boys school in central Moscow, or not paying taxes
when they rented space to for- profit businesses on tax free
property they are a pain in the ass. And, yes, thanks to the lack
of backbones the city council let them get by with their
self-entitled bull shit. The Daily News has had a long-term love
affair with all things Kirkish for years. A bottle of wine goes a
long way to buying good press I guess. Again, annoying but not
worth much more in the long run than throwing up ones hands and
sighing. I know that calling out the Kirk is risky business. And,
most folks have the mother wit not to get involved. After all,
there is a price to pay for pointing out their nastiness. Saundra
and I, not to mention Tom Hanson, are keenly aware of this. But we
won't stop - silence !<br>
> is acquiescence and we would be ashamed of ourselves if we
cut and ran when things get a uncomfortable. (Curiously, shame is
a motivator for us, but Kirkers, not so much.)<br>
> <br>
> This wedding is a different kettle of fish - it involves so
much more than cheap chiselers thumbing their noses at city
regulations. This is the culmination of years of unrelenting
propaganda that preaches the sole purpose of women on this earth
is to marry and breed. Of course Miss Travis wants a husband, how
could she be a real grown up without one? Getting married means
that God is blessing you. Failure to snag a husband means that no
matter what else you accomplish, you are a failure, half a person,
incomplete, in the eyes of the faithful. This unrelenting message
leads foolish young woman like Miss Travis to become engaged on a
second date to a really creepy criminal. Her obsessive desire to
be married is heart breaking on many levels.<br>
> <br>
> But, my sympathy for Miss Travis, although sincere, has to be
measured against what I am sure is her desire to have children.
Someone has to be the advocate for the (potential) children of
this union. It is clear that neither set of grandparents give a
damn about what could happen to children in the home of a serial
pedophile. Their lack of concern rules them out as responsible
parents or grandparents. There is no way on this earth that Miss
Travis, who after all is choosing to marry a molester of toddlers,
is competent to protect her babies. (Think about it, how likely is
it that she will turn him in when, if convicted, he will spend the
rest of his life in prison?) <br>
> <br>
> And so, as unpleasant as it is, these emails are my only hope
that at least our community (and anyone who googles the names in
this email) will be aware of what is happening June 11, 2011,
thanks to the principal enablers in this hellish drama. Stand up
and take a bow parents, Don and Betsy Travis; Roxanne and Dave
Sitler; "adopted grandparents" Ed and Paula Iverson; and pastors
Doug Wilson; Tim Tucker; and to a lesser extent Ed Eby. The elders
in both CREC churches who support this marriage also bear a
responsibility for going along to get along. Once again, please
remember the names of Christ Church elders in Moscow:<br>
> <br>
> Dale Courtney, Dr. John Grauke, Matt Gray, Ed Iverson, Mike
Lawyer, Csaba Leidenfrost, Ben Merkle, Jim Nance, John Sawyer, Wes
Struble, Matt Whitling, and Gordon Wilson, and Pastor Doug Wilson<br>
> <br>
> for they are men who promoted/protected evil to achieve God
only knows what. (One can't help but speculate if ample donations
to the New Saint Andrews library have appeared over the last six
months) I can say unequivocally, not a one of them would have
permitted Steven Sitler to marry their own daughters. Sadly, Miss
Travis was groomed by these jackasses, and their CREC brothers to
be expendable.<br>
> <br>
> Rose Huskey<br>
> <br>
> <br>
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> <br>
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