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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m a huge supporter of & believer in disaster preparedness.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>However, I think these folks would almost ensure – indeed, prefer -- that things would devolve into a Hobbesian nightmare with their “Safety Committee” in control. Did you read the inflammatory rhetoric??? I’ll throw my lot in with my peaceful & intelligent fellow community members over NOPD wannabes & rejects any day of the week.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just Sayin’,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra Lund<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Moscow, ID<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~ Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2011 through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the author.*****<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Paul Rumelhart [mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> Saundra Lund; Reggie Holmquist; Moscow Vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] LOL at Palouse Liberty Project<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I agree that there is something ironic about a group called the Palouse Liberty Project that censors it's comments section, but I don't see any harm in preparing for disaster, even if you think the chances of the disaster actually happening are slim. There are lots of possible scenarios that could leave us without food shipments or electricity or with severe damage to house and home for an extended period. It's always best to be prepared, and I'm behind any kind of structure that enables a smooth transition during an actual disaster scenario without things falling into a kind of Mad Max movie script.<br><br>As someone said (I haven't been able to track this one down), "Society is only three square meals away from anarchy".<br><br>Paul<o:p></o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Saundra Lund <v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm><br><b>To:</b> Reggie Holmquist <reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu>; Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com><br><b>Sent:</b> Thu, April 7, 2011 10:04:30 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] LOL at Palouse Liberty Project<br></span><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Reggie,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Well, that’s really too bad, but I can’t say as I’m surprised. They used to have a message board on their Web site (which I notice is now gone as well), and it was obvious even back then that the genuine liberty-types were getting taken over/shouted down by the Religious Right. Of course, the same thing happened nationwide around the same time, which I found not only hilarious (the astroturfed movement got co-opted) but also telling in that groups espousing “liberty” find censorship of dissenting opinions appropriate just like good little fascists.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But, really, what do we expect from a group of wingnuts whose idea of “safety” is the following?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.facebook.com/palouselibertyproject#%21/topic.php?uid=151607338219712&topic=211" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/palouselibertyproject#!/topic.php?uid=151607338219712&topic=211</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><h6 style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.25in'><span class=messagebody2><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Palouse Committee of Safety</span></span><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br></span><span class=messagebody2><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We are starting a group of like minded individuals to help our area better prepare for the coming collapse. </span></span><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><span class=messagebody2>We want to teach skills that will be useful in a Wymar or Soviet style collapse that is inevitable.</span><br><br></span><span class=messagebody2><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Skills such as</span></span><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><span class=messagebody2>First aid</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Gardening</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Homesteading</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Hunting</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Fishing</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Canning</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Meat preparation for storage</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Firearms</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Martial arts</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Wilderness Survival/ Bushcraft</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Urban Survival</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Communications etc.</span></span><o:p></o:p></h6><h6 style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.25in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span class=messagebody2><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We have met with the Sheriff of Latah Co. he is in favor of such a group we haven't been able to get a meeting with Whitman Co. Sheriff yet but we will as soon as we can.</span></span><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><span class=messagebody2>I want to make one thing clear as a rugged individual you will fail!</span><br><span class=messagebody2>We need a group, a community, a tribe if you will.</span><br><span class=messagebody2>That is the only way we can survive and thrive when TSHTF!</span><br><span class=messagebody2>Alot of people say well I will just head for the hills well that will only work if you are already there! Most likely you will be killed by the people who get there before you!</span><br><span class=messagebody2>We are not about heading for the hills but being there in our community to ensure that there are good people to pick up the pieces when things fall apart.</span><br><span class=messagebody2>We have worked too hard to build up this country to head for the hills and watch it destroy itself we will stay here and fight for our homes if need be.</span></span><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br><span class=messagebody2>email- <a href="mailto:Palousemilitia@yahoo.com">Palousemilitia@yahoo.com</a></span><br><span class=messagebody2>phone- 208-596-5970 Ebrahem Arar</span></span><o:p></o:p></h6><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>__________</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra Lund</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Moscow, ID</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~ Edmund Burke</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2011 through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the author.*****</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Reggie Holmquist<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> Moscow Vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] LOL at Palouse Liberty Project</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><h6><span class=messagebody><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:normal'>Lol at the Palouse Liberty Project for kicking me off their page for voicing a opinion on energy policy that was different than that of the page's administrator (even though I was as respectful as you all know I always am). Maybe their new Tea Party slogan should be: "Palouse Liberty Project: Afraid of discourse."</span></span><o:p></o:p></h6><div id="id_4d9de2f11d2a20322196867"><p class=MsoNormal>Just so you all know (if you go to PLP and look at their latest status update), my first comment to them was "hmmm, I was not aware that 'sound energy policies' means ignoring, and thereby further entrenching, America's dependency on foreig<span class=textexposedhide>...</span><span class=textexposedshow>n oil. How much freedom will we have once the environment is completely destroyed?"</span><br><br><span class=textexposedshow>I also made subsequent substantive comments which you can no longer see, as a result of their "selective editing." Here is the link to that post: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/palouselibertyproject/posts/202392516448273" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/palouselibertyproject/posts/202392516448273</a></span><br><br><span class=textexposedshow>-Reggie</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><br><br>-- <br>There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. <br><br>Douglas Adams<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>