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<DIV><FONT size=2>This is the most intelligent post by Roger in a long
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<DIV><FONT size=2>w.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=lfalen@turbonet.com href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision
2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:15
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] More of the GOP
Targeting Our Youth&EconomicallyChallenged Parents</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>-----Original message-----<BR>From: Sunil Ramalingam <A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A><BR>Date:
Mon, 04 Apr 2011 21:20:11 -0700<BR>To: vision 2020 <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth &EconomicallyChallenged
Parents<BR><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Roger, <BR>>
<BR>> Every day I see adults who are unqualified to teach a dog to sit, let
alone a kid to drive. No, any adult should not be allowed to teach kids to
drive. Good, qualified teachers should do that.<BR>> <BR>> In another
response you say that its a hardship to keep raising prices.<BR>> <BR>>
You do realize that the legislature has raised the price, and someone who will
benefit directly from getting schools out of driver education got to use the
state government to increase her income.<BR>> <BR>> Do you agree that's
wrong?<BR>Me- I don't know if I do or not. Please explain who she is and how
she will benifit.<BR>> <BR>> Sunil<BR>> <BR>> > Date: Mon, 4
Apr 2011 12:12:30 -0700<BR>> > From: <A
href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</A><BR>> > To: <A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</A>; <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> >
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth &
EconomicallyChallenged Parents<BR>> > <BR>> > Then change the law
requiring a class per se and go to a proficiency test and allow kids to
be trained by any adult. I won't disagree with your second statement.<BR>>
> Roger<BR>> > -----Original message-----<BR>> > From: Sunil
Ramalingam <A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A><BR>>
> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 08:48:19 -0700<BR>> > To: <A
href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</A>, <A
href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</A>, vision
<A
href="mailto:2020vision2020@moscow.com">2020vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>>
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth &
EconomicallyChallenged Parents<BR>> > <BR>> > > <BR>> >
> Roger,<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Isn't it meaningless for you
to say "Train your own kids," when Idaho law requires a class for drivers
under 17? <BR>> > > <BR>> > > You say "Fees are too high."
The Republican party-line vote will make these classes MORE expensive, and
maintains the requirement these drivers take a class.<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Sunil<BR>> > > <BR>> > > > Date: Fri,
1 Apr 2011 11:29:35 -0700<BR>> > > > From: <A
href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</A><BR>> > >
> To: <A href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</A>;
<A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> >
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth &
Economically Challenged Parents<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > >
Genesee charges $165.00, On April 11 there is a public hearing to raise it to
$225.00 on May 1. Fees are getting too high. Train your own kids> > >
Roger<BR>> > > > -----Original message-----<BR>> > > >
From: "Saundra Lund" <A
href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</A><BR>> >
> > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:20:21 -0700<BR>> > > > To: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> >
> > Subject: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth &
Economically Challenged Parents<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > >
> The hits just keep coming, and it's absolutely *disgusting* to me the
real<BR>> > > > > motive behind so many is to improve the lot
of for-profit businesses while<BR>> > > > > harming the least
among us.<BR>> > > > > <BR>> > > > > If these
GOP legislators had any shame -- which they've proven time & again<BR>>
> > > > this legislative session that they don't -- they would
have, in tandem with<BR>> > > > > this hair-brained idea, done
away with mandatory driver-training program for<BR>> > > > >
those under 17. I know the "quality" of some of these for-profit
driving<BR>> > > > > schools, and they certainly are no more
capable than many parents can do<BR>> > > > > without having to
shell out $350. Currently, MHS charges $135, so an<BR>> > >
> > increase to $350 would be a whopping 40% increase, and increase
many<BR>> > > > > families could ill-afford As it is, the
rank hypocrisy of the GOP's motive<BR>> > > > > is glaringly
apparent.<BR>> > > > > <BR>> > > > > SL<BR>>
> > > > <BR>> > > > > <A
href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/03/31/1587391/idaho-house-to-debate-cutti">http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/03/31/1587391/idaho-house-to-debate-cutti</A><BR>>
> > > > ng.html<BR>> > > > > <BR>> > >
> > March 31, 2011<BR>> > > > > Idaho House to debate
cutting driver's ed funding<BR>> > > > > By JESSIE L. BONNER -
Associated Press<BR>> > > > > <BR>> > > > >
Idaho would no longer help cover the cost of driver's education classes
at<BR>> > > > > public schools, under a bill before the 2011
Legislature.<BR>> > > > > <BR>> > > > >
Republican lawmakers advanced legislation Thursday to strip state
funding<BR>> > > > > from driver's ed classes, essentially
ending the $125-per student subsidy<BR>> > > > > for programs
that have been offered through Idaho's public schools since<BR>> > >
> > 1948. The bulk of the money would be redirected into a public school
rainy<BR>> > > > > day account.<BR>> > > > >
<BR>> > > > > The changes would leave either students or
schools to pick up the slack> > Idaho's wannabe teen drivers already pay
$180 to $200 of the total $325 cost<BR>> > > > > of driver's ed
classes, according to lawmakers behind the measure> > > > <BR>>
> > > > Republican Rep. Steve Thayn of Emmett contends his bill
aims to spur debate<BR>> > > > > about education
spending.<BR>> > > > > <BR>> > > > > "It's a
matter of priorities," he said. "Should we continue to subsidize<BR>> >
> > > each student that takes driver's training from a public school
or reallocate<BR>> > > > > those funds back into the
classroom?"<BR>> > > > > <BR>> > > > > Student
fees covered roughly half the total $2.3 million cost of public<BR>> >
> > > driver's education courses in Idaho schools last year. The
state reimbursed<BR>> > > > > school districts for the
remaining $1.3 million, at a rate of $125 per<BR>> > > > >
student enrolled in the training courses, using money collected from<BR>>
> > > > driver's license fees.<BR>> > > > >
<BR>> > > > > The Republican-dominated House Education
Committee advanced Thyan's bill on<BR>> > > > > a party-line
vote.<BR>> > > > > <BR>> > > > > Critics,
primarily Democrats, contend the legislation jeopardizes access to<BR>>
> > > > public driver's training courses and will put the cost out
of reach for some<BR>> > > > > families.<BR>> > > >
> <BR>> > > > > "Our rural students are driving and they
have a lot of responsibilities,<BR>> > > > > especially in our
farming areas. They need to have the training," said<BR>> > > >
> Democratic Rep. Donna Pence of Gooding.<BR>> > > > >
<BR>> > > > > State law requires anyone under age 17 applying
for a driver's license to<BR>> > > > > complete a
driver-training program. About 10,000 students took public<BR>> > >
> > driver's ed courses in Idaho school districts last year, according
to the<BR>> > > > > state Department of Education.<BR>> >
> > > <BR>> > > > > Supporters of the changes included
operators of private driver's ed<BR>> > > > > businesses, who
contend the subsidies for public driver's ed programs create<BR>> > >
> > an uneven playing field. Private driver's ed courses cost between
$325 and<BR>> > > > > $350, lawmakers said.<BR>> > >
> > <BR>> > > > > "You're subsidizing a product that's in
direct competition to free<BR>> > > > > enterprise," said Kim
Hatch, whose family operates Hatch's Drivers Training<BR>> > > >
> in Meridian.<BR>> > > > > <BR>> > > > >
Democratic Rep. Susan Chew of Boise countered that the programs were
about<BR>> > > > > safety.<BR>> > > > > <BR>>
> > > > "I thought that the reason we were subsidizing it, is so
when I get out in<BR>> > > > > my car I don't have to run into
a crazy kid that hasn't been trained," Chew<BR>> > > > >
said.<BR>> > > > > <BR>> > > > > <BR>> >
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