<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">Oil shale development in the SW needs a source of water, lots of it. The 04 article refers to appropriating upper-basin Colorado River water, however that was before climatologists recognized the possibility of long-term drought in the area. Perhaps a pipeline from the Columbia?<br><br>Bumper sticker seen in 1973: "Ecology Hell! I Want Gas!"<br><div> </div>Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA<div><br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Ted Moffett <starbliss@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Art Deco <deco@moscow.com><br><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sat, April 2, 2011 3:49:08 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Oilsands Lauds Obama Energy Security Plans<br></font><br>
If the world is willing to risk planetary wide disaster from<br>anthropogenic climate change from fossil fuel atmospheric emissions,<br>what's the big deal about ecological damage to less than one percent<br>of the Earth's total surface (including oceans) in Canada, or a few<br>states of the US, for that matter? Snort!<br><br>Unless oil dependence is dramatically reduced within decades, consider<br>that the gigantic Green River oil shale deposits in Utah, Colorado and<br>Wyoming may face pressures for development, at 700 bbl to 1.4 trillion<br>bbl, depending on density. This article compares oil sands<br>development in Canada to oil shale development in the US, apparently<br>indicating oil shale development is just as feasible: "Is Oil Shale<br>America's Answer to Peak-Oil Challenge?"<br><span><a target="_blank"
href="http://fossil.energy.gov/programs/reserves/publications/Pubs-NPR/40010-373.pdf">http://fossil.energy.gov/programs/reserves/publications/Pubs-NPR/40010-373.pdf</a></span><br><br>More on US oil shale at website below, with somewhat different figures<br>(1.2 to 1.8 trillion barrels) given for the size of the Green River<br>formation deposit, still a incredible amount of oil:<br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://ostseis.anl.gov/guide/oilshale/">http://ostseis.anl.gov/guide/oilshale/</a></span><br><br>>From website above:<br><br>"Not all resources in place are recoverable; however, even a moderate<br>estimate of 800 billion barrels of recoverable oil from oil shale in<br>the Green River Formation is three times greater than the proven oil<br>reserves of Saudi Arabia. Present U.S. demand for petroleum products<br>is about 20 million barrels per day. If oil shale could be used to<br>meet a quarter of that demand, the estimated 800 billion barrels
of<br>recoverable oil from the Green River Formation would last for more<br>than 400 years1."<br>------------------------------------------<br>Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett<br><br>On 4/1/11, Art Deco <<a ymailto="mailto:deco@moscow.com" href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br>> What rubbish. The oil sands projects are likely to be the greatest<br>> ecological and health disaster for North America yet.<br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: Tom Hansen<br>> To: Moscow Vision 2020<br>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:41 AM<br>> Subject: [Vision2020] Oilsands Lauds Obama Energy Security Plans<br>><br>><br>> Courtesy of the Edmonton Journal (Edmonton, Canada) at:<br>><br>><br><span>> <a target="_blank"
href="http://www.edmontonjournal.com/business/Oilsands+lauds+Obama+energy+security+plans/4533606/story.html">http://www.edmontonjournal.com/business/Oilsands+lauds+Obama+energy+security+plans/4533606/story.html</a></span><br>><br>> -------------------------------------------------------<br>><br>> Oilsands lauds Obama energy security plans<br>><br>> A plan by U.S. President Barack Obama to slash U.S. oil imports by more<br>> than 30 per cent over the next decade is excellent news for crude oil<br>> producers in Canada, including those in the oilsands, Alberta industry<br>> spokesmen said Wednesday.<br>><br>> Amid rising gasoline prices in America and ongoing turmoil in the Middle<br>> East, Obama announced a goal of cutting American oil imports -currently 11<br>> million barrels a day -by boosting domestic production, increasing the use<br>> of
natural gas, investing in biofuels and making vehicles more energy<br>> efficient.<br>><br>> "We cannot keep going from shock to trance on the issue of energy<br>> security, rushing to propose action when gas prices rise, then hitting the<br>> snooze button when they fall again," Obama said at Georgetown University<br>> on Wednesday.<br>><br>> "The United States of America cannot afford to bet our longterm prosperity<br>> and security on a resource that will eventually run out. Not anymore.<br>><br>> "Not when the cost to our economy, our country and our planet is so high."<br>><br>> Obama singled out Canada among a handful of nations America must continue<br>> to rely on as "stable and steady" foreign sources of secure energy, a<br>> point that wasn't missed by Alberta observers.<br>><br>> "The president defined a
problem, the U.S. has a problem with insecure<br>> supply and to some extent, has a problem with price," said Tom Huffaker,<br>> vice-president of policy and environment for the Canadian Association of<br>> Petroleum Producers.<br>><br>> "I think he singled out Canada pretty clearly as part of the solution,<br>> rather than part of the problem. So we feel very good about that."<br>><br>> Huffaker said as oil from trouble spots is reduced, Canadian producers<br>> stand to send more oil to the U.S., not less. Obama avoided mentioning the<br>> controversial oilsands in his speech, but Don Thompson, president of the<br>> Fort McMurray-based Oil Sands Developers Group, was not discouraged by<br>> that fact.<br>><br>> "Let's be clear, right now the oilsands are well over half of Canada's<br>> production and something like 70 per
cent of Canada's crude oil<br>> requirements. And it's 97 per cent of our reserves," he said. "So when you<br>> speak about Canadian oil, you are speaking of Canadian oilsands."<br>><br>> Thompson has been criss-crossing the U.S. in a series of speaking<br>> engagements on behalf of the industry.<br>><br>> Oilsands crude makes up about a third of the 2.4 million barrels of oil<br>> per day exported from Canada to the United States.<br>><br>> Premier Ed Stelmach agreed Obama's speech is good news.<br>><br>> "He's recognizing Alberta is a very stable supplier of oil," he said.<br>> "It's very positive. It makes me feel good this morning."<br>><br>> The speech marked a deliberate attempt by Obama to shift the public focus<br>> in America from the crisis in Libya and across the Middle East to a<br>> domestic issue dear to
the president's heart.<br>><br>> Gasoline prices in the U.S. jumped seven per cent in March to an average<br>> of $3.60 US a gallon, an increase attributed in part to concerns about<br>> security of supply caused by ongoing political unrest overseas.<br>><br>> With rising demand for oil in China and India, Obama said there will be<br>> "more ups than downs" in gas prices in the coming years.<br>><br>> "We will keep on being a victim to shifts in the oil market until we get<br>> serious about a longterm policy for secure, affordable energy," he said.<br>><br>> But the president's pledge to lower oil imports came with a significant<br>> caveat. Even as the U.S. seeks to reduce its dependence on oil from<br>> unstable sources, Obama said America would continue to "partner" with<br>> reliable suppliers in Canada, Mexico and
Brazil.<br>><br>> "I set this goal knowing that imported oil will remain an important part<br>> of our energy portfolio for quite some time," Obama said.<br>><br>> He said the U.S. must continue to look to Canada, Mexico and Brazil<br>> because they are "stable and steady and reliable sources" of oil for the<br>> American market.<br>><br>> Canada is currently the biggest single source of U.S. oil imports,<br>> providing about 20 per cent of the nation's foreign supply, followed by<br>> Mexico. Obama did not raise the controversy currently raging among<br>> lawmakers in Washington over Alberta's oilsands.<br>><br>> The State Department earlier this month announced further environment<br>> review on a proposed $7-billion pipeline -TransCanada's Keystone XL<br>> project -that would carry more than 500,000 barrels of oilsands
crude per<br>> day from northern Alberta to the Gulf coast of Texas.<br>><br>> But Obama's mention of Canadian oil, in a major speech on America energy<br>> security, constitutes at least something of a victory for Prime Minister<br>> Stephen Harper.<br>><br>> During a White House meeting last month, Harper said the U.S. faced a<br>> "choice" between importing oil "from the most secure, most stable and<br>> friendliest location it can possibly get that energy, which is Canada, or<br>> from other places that are not as secure, stable or friendly to the<br>> interests and values of the United States."<br>><br>> -------------------------------------------------------<br>><br>> Seeya round town, Moscow.<br>><br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>><br>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the
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