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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I dunno, Ron . . . I’m not aware of UI employees moving up to new positions & then getting an extra quarter of a million dollars bonanza in wages or benefits because the UI didn’t correctly anticipate the costs of filling the position, but I know of quite a few instances where the UI signed contracts with for-profit companies that wound up costing much, <b>much</b> more than the contracted amount.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Of course, just because I’m not aware of something doesn’t mean it’s never happened </span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just sayin’,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Saundra Lund<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Moscow, ID<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~ Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2011 through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the author.*****<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Force<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 01, 2011 12:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> vision2020@moscow.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Oh, My EYES :-( Plumber's Butt, the UI, and AlliedBarton<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>? Inside hires don't really save money. The person moving up gets the salary of the new position, and then their department has to hire a replacement.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com><br><b>To:</b> Saundra Lund <v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm>; vision2020@moscow.com; lfalen <lfalen@turbonet.com><br><b>Sent:</b> Fri, April 1, 2011 12:09:47 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Oh, My EYES :-( Plumber's Butt, the UI, and AlliedBarton</span><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Roger,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If there is a way to waste more money, UI will find it even if they have to hire an administrator to contract a firm to outsource a private company to select a board to appoint an exploratory committee to discover it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Donovan Arnold<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 4/1/11, lfalen <i><<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>From: lfalen <<a href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oh, My EYES :-( Plumber's Butt, the UI, and AlliedBarton<br>To: "Saundra Lund" <<a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>>, <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 11:24 AM<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The UI is real good at wasting money. They used hired a new Dean of the Graduate School from outside. the interim Dean was just fine.<br>Roger<br>-----Original message-----<br>From: "Saundra Lund" <a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" target="_blank">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a><br>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:50:52 -0700<br>To: <a href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: [Vision2020] Oh, My EYES :-( Plumber's Butt, the UI,and AlliedBarton<br><br>> Perhaps someone at the UI should PLEASE let whoever is hiring those fine<br>> hard-working AlliedBarton security professionals (!) know that Moscow<br>> actually has an ordinance prohibiting plumber's butt. Ordinance 2002-13.<br>> <br>> In all fairness, I didn't actually see the dude's "cleft of the buttocks" on<br>> the weekend, for which I'll be eternally grateful. But, it was horrifyingly<br>> close & *very* unprofessional. And it ***definitely*** wasn't a positive<br>> reflection on the UI.<br>> <br>> OTOH, I've seen MPD officers on campus many times over the years, and they<br>> always looked professional & behaved professionally as well, which<br>> apparently isn't always the case with the AB employees.<br>> <br>> I've heard through the grapevine that the brilliant <sarcasm> decision to<br>> hire AB to save money is actually costing more than anticipated. I can't<br>> say as I'm surprised because that often seems to be the case at the UI:<br>> things that are supposed to save money wind up costing more, especially when<br>> it comes to contracts with the private sector. In the past, I found it very<br>> easy to deal with the UI with respect to public records requests, but that's<br>> unfortunately not been the case since Kent Nelson was hired as General<br>> Counsel. Other than finding creative ways to thwart public records<br>> requests, I'm not exactly sure what it is he does since the UI contracts out<br>> so much of its legal work, but making access to public records difficult if<br>> not impossible certainly has the bonus of making sure we-the-taxpayers<br>> remain ignorant about whether all these cost-savings measures are actually<br>> saving money or losing it.<br>> <br>> So much for the UI's pledge for transparency & accountability following the<br>> deplorable history of serious financial mismanagement. Seriously, though,<br>> Pollyanna me thought that "pledge" was going to last longer than a New York<br>> minute.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Saundra Lund<br>> Moscow, ID<br>> <br>> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do<br>> nothing.<br>> ~ Edmund Burke<br>> <br>> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2011 through life plus<br>> 70 years, Saundra Lund. 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