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<DIV>Donovan Arnold<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 3/21/11, Dan Carscallen <I><areaman@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<P class=yiv330809451MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">No, Joe, you’re not quite right . . .</SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=yiv330809451MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Tom can still be elderly at 60, heck I might even consider you elderly at 60, but when *<B>I</B>* am going to be 60, 60 <SPAN>isn</SPAN>’t elderly. </SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=yiv330809451MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Joe Campbell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 21, 2011 4:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tom Hansen<BR><B>Cc:</B> Vision 2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=yiv330809451MsoNormal>If you're going to be 60, Tom, then 60 is not elderly!<BR><BR></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=yiv330809451MsoNormal><BR>On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Tom Hansen <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>> wrote:</DIV></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=yiv330809451MsoNormal>"<SPAN class=yiv330809451apple-style-span><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'">I liked the bill prohibiting nudists from exhibiting tattoos on their privates when in the presence of the elderly."</SPAN></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv330809451MsoNormal>I believe the bill you cite, Senate Bill 1002, has been returned to the State Affairs Committee for review and possible amendment. It seems there is a controversy concerning "at what age does a person become elderly". Freshmen legislators believe that "elderly" begins at 60, whereas senior legislators feel that 90 years of age would be more appropriate for this legislation.</DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv330809451MsoNormal>When asked if exposing tattoos on the privates of nudists to senior legislators might possibly result in adverse sexual ramifications, one state representative, who agreed to be interviewed anonymously, stated, "What can't get up, can't get out."</DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv330809451MsoNormal>Tom "who turns 60 this year" Hansen</DIV></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=yiv330809451MsoNormal><BR>On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:38 PM, "Art Deco" <<A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=deco@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A>> wrote:</DIV></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=yiv330809451MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A title=suehovey@moscow.com href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> </SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv330809451MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A title=lfalen@turbonet.com href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lfalen@turbonet.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen</A> ; <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv330809451MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Monday, March 21, 2011 12:47 PM</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv330809451MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv330809451MsoNormal>Oh what a great political cartoon that would make. Think of the angles.<BR>I thought we had a no alcohol policy. Are you saying there are some who <BR>violate it? And they would willingly check their guns?<BR>Guns should be checked at home. This is a stupid, stupid bill, but can <BR>anyone think of anything that passed this session so far that isn't?<BR>SueH<BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: lfalen<BR>Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 7:27 AM<BR>To: Tom Hansen ; Moscow Vision 2020<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus<BR><BR>There is a lot of booze at athletic events. Guns should be checked at the <BR>door.<BR>Roger<BR>-----Original message-----<BR>From: "Tom Hansen" <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=thansen@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A><BR>Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:31:04 -0700<BR>To: "Moscow Vision
2020" <A href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Subject: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus<BR><BR>> "If it becomes law, . . . Guns would be allowed at athletic events."<BR>><BR>> Kinda adds a whole new dimension to college "rivalry", huh?<BR>><BR>> Idea for t-shirt text: Nasty, Inebriated, and Armed<BR>><BR>> Courtesy of today's (March 20, 2011) Spokesman-Review.<BR>><BR>> -------------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>> Firearms bill worries campus<BR>> Boise State says events would be jeopardized<BR>><BR>> BOISE – Boise State University could lose hundreds of thousands of dollars<BR>> in revenue from lost sporting and entertainment events if Idaho lawmakers<BR>> approve a bill to allow guns on college campuses, a school official
says.<BR>><BR>> Bruce Newcomb, the university’s director of government affairs and a<BR>> former speaker of the Idaho House, said such a law could jeopardize<BR>> hosting events such as the NCAA men’s basketball tournament and the<BR>> scheduled 2012 NCAA Division I men’s and women’s indoor track and field<BR>> championships.<BR>><BR>> “We’re convinced this is going to interfere with those endeavors,” Newcomb<BR>> told the Idaho Statesman.<BR>><BR>> The Idaho House on Wednesday approved a bill that would allow firearms on<BR>> public university and college campuses. It now goes to the Senate.<BR>><BR>> If it becomes law, it would prohibit schools from banning firearms, either<BR>> carried openly or by people with concealed weapons permits, anywhere on<BR>> campus except in undergraduate residence halls. Guns would be allowed at<BR>> athletic events.<BR>><BR>> Idaho law now gives
university and college presidents authority to<BR>> prohibit firearms on campus. Boise State University, Idaho State<BR>> University, the University of Idaho, Lewis-Clark State College and several<BR>> community colleges throughout the state have adopted their own regulations<BR>> to prohibit guns on campus.<BR>><BR>> Rep. Marv Hagedorn, R-Meridian, co-sponsored the current legislation and<BR>> disagrees that schools would experience any negative ramifications. He<BR>> also wondered how the school knows guns aren’t being taken on campus<BR>> already, especially because he said he’s often carried guns to Boise State<BR>> venues.<BR>><BR>> “My question would be to Boise State: How do they know people aren’t<BR>> carrying guns there now? None of those venues have metal detectors. They<BR>> don’t say to the visitors or the ticket-holders, ‘Don’t bring your guns<BR>> because this is a gun-free
zone,’&#8201;” Hagedorn said. “I have never<BR>> seen anything. I have carried to a lot of those venues, and I did not know<BR>> the policy, nor did I see any signs.”<BR>><BR>> Boise State spokesman Frank Zang said the campus has more than 1 million<BR>> visits annually by people attending hundreds of sports, cultural and<BR>> entertainment events.<BR>><BR>> “We are concerned that allowing guns on campus would have an adverse<BR>> effect on attracting these events to Boise,” he said. “The industry<BR>> standard does not allow weapons in the facilities.”<BR>><BR>> Creston Thornton, a concert promoter with CT Touring, said weapons are not<BR>> allowed at concerts either. Taco Bell Arena, on the Boise State campus,<BR>> has hosted concerts by the Dave Matthews Band, Toby Keith, Metallica and<BR>> Journey.<BR>><BR>> “We don’t even allow glass bottles because they can be used as
weapons.<BR>> It’s just assumed there’s a no-weapons policy,” said Thornton.<BR>><BR>> Rep. Erik Simpson, R-Idaho Falls, said passing a law allowing guns on<BR>> campus would not stop the NCAA men’s basketball tournament from coming to<BR>> Boise State, where early-round games have been held eight times since<BR>> 1983, most recently in 2009.<BR>><BR>> But the NCAA in its 2009 operating manual for the tournament states that<BR>> “firearms and explosives of any kind are not permitted.”<BR>><BR>> The University of Utah, however, held part of the NCAA women’s gymnastics<BR>> championship. Utah does not allow firearms bans on college campuses.<BR>><BR>> “It’s a red herring,” said Simpson. “There is no truth to it. It is not a<BR>> condition of them appearing on a campus. It’s a guideline. It’s a policy.<BR>> I don’t think policy is going to trump state law.”<BR>><BR>>
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