<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>If you're going to be 60, Tom, then 60 is not elderly!<br><br><br></div><div><br>On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Wayne Fox opines:</div><div><br></div><div>"<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: small; font-family: Verdana; ">I liked the bill prohibiting nudists from exhibiting tattoos on their privates when in the presence of the elderly."</span><br><br></div><div>I believe the bill you cite, Senate Bill 1002, has been returned to the State Affairs Committee for review and possible amendment. It seems there is a controversy concerning "at what age does a person become elderly". Freshmen legislators believe that "elderly" begins at 60, whereas senior legislators feel that 90 years of age would be more appropriate for this legislation.</div><div><br></div><div>When asked if exposing tattoos on the privates of nudists to senior legislators might possibly result in adverse sexual ramifications, one state representative, who agreed to be interviewed anonymously, stated, "What can't get up, can't get out."</div><div><br></div><div>Tom "who turns 60 this year" Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br><div><br></div><div>"The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">and the Realist adjusts his sails."</span></div><div><br></div><div>- Unknown</div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:38 PM, "Art Deco" <<a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">Sue,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">I liked the bill prohibiting nudists from
exhibiting tattoos on their privates when in the presence of the
elderly.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2" face="Verdana">w.</font></div>
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<a title="suehovey@moscow.com" href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</a>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="lfalen@turbonet.com" href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a> </div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill
Worries Campus</div>
<div><br></div>Oh what a great political cartoon that would make. Think
of the angles.<br>I thought we had a no alcohol policy. Are you saying there
are some who <br>violate it? And they would willingly check their
guns?<br>Guns should be checked at home. This is a stupid, stupid bill, but
can <br>anyone think of anything that passed this session so far that
isn't?<br>SueH<br><br>-----Original Message----- <br>From: lfalen<br>Sent:
Monday, March 21, 2011 7:27 AM<br>To: Tom Hansen ; Moscow Vision
2020<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus<br><br>There is
a lot of booze at athletic events. Guns should be checked at the
<br>door.<br>Roger<br>-----Original message-----<br>From: "Tom Hansen" <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a></a><br>Date: Sun, 20 Mar
2011 08:31:04 -0700<br>To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>Subject:
[Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus<br><br>> "If it becomes law, . .
. Guns would be allowed at athletic events."<br>><br>> Kinda adds a
whole new dimension to college "rivalry", huh?<br>><br>> Idea for
t-shirt text: Nasty, Inebriated, and Armed<br>><br>> Courtesy of
today's (March 20, 2011) Spokesman-Review.<br>><br>>
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Firearms bill worries campus<br>> Boise State says events would be
jeopardized<br>><br>> BOISE – Boise State University could lose hundreds
of thousands of dollars<br>> in revenue from lost sporting and
entertainment events if Idaho lawmakers<br>> approve a bill to allow guns
on college campuses, a school official says.<br>><br>> Bruce Newcomb,
the university’s director of government affairs and a<br>> former speaker
of the Idaho House, said such a law could jeopardize<br>> hosting events
such as the NCAA men’s basketball tournament and the<br>> scheduled 2012
NCAA Division I men’s and women’s indoor track and field<br>>
championships.<br>><br>> “We’re convinced this is going to interfere
with those endeavors,” Newcomb<br>> told the Idaho
Statesman.<br>><br>> The Idaho House on Wednesday approved a bill that
would allow firearms on<br>> public university and college campuses. It now
goes to the Senate.<br>><br>> If it becomes law, it would prohibit
schools from banning firearms, either<br>> carried openly or by people with
concealed weapons permits, anywhere on<br>> campus except in undergraduate
residence halls. Guns would be allowed at<br>> athletic
events.<br>><br>> Idaho law now gives university and college presidents
authority to<br>> prohibit firearms on campus. Boise State University,
Idaho State<br>> University, the University of Idaho, Lewis-Clark State
College and several<br>> community colleges throughout the state have
adopted their own regulations<br>> to prohibit guns on
campus.<br>><br>> Rep. Marv Hagedorn, R-Meridian, co-sponsored the
current legislation and<br>> disagrees that schools would experience any
negative ramifications. He<br>> also wondered how the school knows guns
aren’t being taken on campus<br>> already, especially because he said he’s
often carried guns to Boise State<br>> venues.<br>><br>> “My question
would be to Boise State: How do they know people aren’t<br>> carrying guns
there now? None of those venues have metal detectors. They<br>> don’t say
to the visitors or the ticket-holders, ‘Don’t bring your guns<br>> because
this is a gun-free zone,’&#8201;” Hagedorn said. “I have never<br>>
seen anything. I have carried to a lot of those venues, and I did not
know<br>> the policy, nor did I see any signs.”<br>><br>> Boise State
spokesman Frank Zang said the campus has more than 1 million<br>> visits
annually by people attending hundreds of sports, cultural and<br>>
entertainment events.<br>><br>> “We are concerned that allowing guns on
campus would have an adverse<br>> effect on attracting these events to
Boise,” he said. “The industry<br>> standard does not allow weapons in the
facilities.”<br>><br>> Creston Thornton, a concert promoter with CT
Touring, said weapons are not<br>> allowed at concerts either. Taco Bell
Arena, on the Boise State campus,<br>> has hosted concerts by the Dave
Matthews Band, Toby Keith, Metallica and<br>> Journey.<br>><br>> “We
don’t even allow glass bottles because they can be used as weapons.<br>>
It’s just assumed there’s a no-weapons policy,” said Thornton.<br>><br>>
Rep. Erik Simpson, R-Idaho Falls, said passing a law allowing guns on<br>>
campus would not stop the NCAA men’s basketball tournament from coming
to<br>> Boise State, where early-round games have been held eight times
since<br>> 1983, most recently in 2009.<br>><br>> But the NCAA in its
2009 operating manual for the tournament states that<br>> “firearms and
explosives of any kind are not permitted.”<br>><br>> The University of
Utah, however, held part of the NCAA women’s gymnastics<br>> championship.
Utah does not allow firearms bans on college campuses.<br>><br>> “It’s a
red herring,” said Simpson. “There is no truth to it. It is not a<br>>
condition of them appearing on a campus. It’s a guideline. It’s a
policy.<br>> I don’t think policy is going to trump state
law.”<br>><br>>
-------------------------------------------------------<br>><br>> Seeya
round town, Moscow.<br>><br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow,
Idaho<br>><br>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist
expects it to change<br>> and the Realist adjusts his
sails."<br>><br>> - Unknown<br>><br>><br>>
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