<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">I forgot to include the URL for the source:<br><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.corr.state.id.us/facts/annual/annualreport.htm">http://www.corr.state.id.us/facts/annual/annualreport.htm</a></span><br><br>Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA<div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Reggie Holmquist <reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> lfalen <lfalen@turbonet.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Rosemary Huskey <donaldrose@cpcinternet.com>; Joe Campbell
<philosopher.joe@gmail.com>; Ron Force <rforce2003@yahoo.com>; "vision2020@moscow.com" <vision2020@moscow.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, March 8, 2011 4:32:35 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Sex Offender<br></font><br>
Thanks to Ron for that info. I didn't know we had access to that<br>already-compiled info. Fascinating, really. Anyway, too many people<br>incarcerated for drug/alcohol related offenses as well as<br>property-related offenses. Not saying property offenders should get<br>off scott-free, but I do know that ID has exceptionally strict<br>sentencing guidelines for property offenders. Probably too strict, and<br>it's probably costing a lot annually for the state to enforce these<br>exceptionally strict guidelines.<br><br>-Reggie<br><br>On Tuesday, March 8, 2011, lfalen <<a ymailto="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com" href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen@turbonet.com</a>> wrote:<br>> I agree that sociopaths should receive life sentences with no parol. However Reggie is right, as Ron's post points out there are a lot of people in prison that could be better dealt with other than by prolonged periods of incarceration.<br>> Child
Protective services involve a lot of other things that sex offenses. They also deal with physical and emotional abuse.<br>> This can be rejecting, isolation,ignoring, corrupting, exploiting, and terrorizing. Kids have been starved, locked in closets, denied health care, used as mules, ect. I do not mean to imply that all physical acts toward children is abuse. I have no problem with a spanking on the behind. I personally do not think a child should be slapped, even though that may not be abuse. Anything that leaves a bruise is.<br>> Roger<br>><br>> -----Original message-----<br>> From: "Rosemary Huskey" <a ymailto="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a><br>> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:43:31 -0800<br>> To: "'Joe Campbell'" <a ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>, "'Ron
Force'" <a ymailto="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a><br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sex Offender<br>><br>>> I strongly recommend that folks click on the link that Ron Force (thanks,<br>>> Ron) provided and listen to the NPR interview. Actually, the offender that<br>>> is discussed had two particularly violent offense in addition to the 90<br>>> other that he admitted to. Steven Sitler has admitted (but was not charged<br>>> with dozens of child molestations) because of his plea deal. By any<br>>> standard (except legally) he is a serial offender. The reason that I<br>>> enclosed the word therapy in quotes was because many serial pedophiles (and<br>>> other serial sex offenders) are sociopaths. There is no therapeutic<br>>> approach that I am aware of that effectively treats, and certainly none that<br>>>
will cure a sociopath. It is my sense that the victims of sexual predators<br>>> may suffer a life-time of damage as a consequence of the molestation (as the<br>>> psychiatrist suggests during the radio interview), therefore, a life<br>>> sentence for the perpetrator seems equitable to me.<br>>><br>>> Rose Huskey<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]<br>>> On Behalf Of Joe Campbell<br>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:40 PM<br>>> To: Ron Force<br>>> Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Sex Offender<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> This is a tricky issue.<br>>><br>>> On the one hand, I don't have much of a problem telling someone like John<br>>> Rydberg, who has admitted to more than 90 sex offenses (see link below),<br>>> that he should remain incarcerated.<br>>><br>>> On the other hand, even if we suppose that there is a 75% recidivism rate<br>>> for sex offenders, you're still talking about the unjustified punishment of<br>>> 25% of them if the suggestion IF the suggestion is something like the "civil<br>>> commitment sex offender treatment program" that Minnesota has.<br>>><br>>> Not that Rose or anyone else is suggesting that. So far the point is that<br>>> sex offenders should not be allowed early release and that is a no-brainer,<br>>> as it is with the early release of any violent criminal (unless there are<br>>>
extenuating circumstances).<br>>><br>>> But the overall issue of what to do with sex offenders, how long they<br>>> deserve punishment, and whether incarceration in the form of treatment after<br>>> punishment is a viable option is a very difficult issue, though one that<br>>> needs much attention.<br>>><br>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Ron Force <<a ymailto="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> A pertinent story from Here and Now" this morning on NWPR:<br>>><br><span>>> <a target="_blank" href="http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2011/03/08/minnesota-sex-offender">http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2011/03/08/minnesota-sex-offender</a></span><br>>><br>>> Ron Force<br>>> Moscow Idaho USA<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _____<br>>><br>>> From: "<a
ymailto="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com" href="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com">betsyd@turbonet.com</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com" href="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com">betsyd@turbonet.com</a>><br>>> To: Rosemary Huskey <<a ymailto="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>>; vision 2020<br>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>; Sunil Ramalingam <<a ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>><br>>> Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 11:37:40 AM<br>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sex Offender<br>>><br>>><br>>> Couldn't agree with you more!<br>>><br>>> Bets<br>>><br>>><br>>> -----Original message-----<br>>> From: "Rosemary Huskey" <a
ymailto="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a><br>>> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:20:41 -0800<br>>> To: "'vision 2020'" <a ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>, "'Sunil Ramalingam'"<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sex Offender<br>>><br>>> > A juried review of recidivism, therapeutic modalities, etc. for sex<br><span>>> > offenders: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html">http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html</a></span><br>>> ><br>>> > The type of offense appears to have some impact of the likelihood of<br>>> > reoffending, (which is high at any rate amongst non-incest child<br>>>
molesters).<br>>> > There seems to be disagreement among professionals about what constitutes<br>>> a<br>>> > re-offense. For example, does re-offense mean an arrest, a conviction, or<br>>> > probation violation? And, of course, no one, except the perpetrators and<br>>> > the victims really know what that rate is. What is clear is that it is<br>>> > underreported. Whether the rate (including perpetrators in regular group<br>>> > "therapy" and I also use quotes) is 50% or .5% the possibility that<br>>> > convicted child molesters will continue to troll for and abuse children is<br>>> > too high. As for specifics, Steven Sitler was jailed in Latah County for<br>>> > almost a year and did in fact drive himself (alone), to the<br>>> > Lewiston/Clarkston area regularly for "therapy." And yes, there were<br>>> > controls
in place in terms of time driving and mileage etc. nonetheless,<br>>> it<br>>> > was, in my opinion, a risky situation. I ask you and other 2020<br>>> > contributors, as I did the leaders of Christ Church who support him in his<br>>> > upcoming marriage, would you allow Steve Sitler, given his horrendous<br>>> > history of child molestation, unlimited, unsupervised access to your y<br><br>-- <br>There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly<br>what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly<br>disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and<br>inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has<br>already happened.<br><br>Douglas Adams<br></div></div>
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