<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">0.3% were listed as "No Crime", but I have no idea what this means, and can't seem find out. Protective custody? Material witness?<br><div> </div>Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA<div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Ron Force <rforce2003@yahoo.com>; vision2020@moscow.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, March 8, 2011 3:45:12 PM<br><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Sex Offender<br></font><br>
The sum total of Ron Force's percentage comes to 99.7%.<br><br>The question is now . . .<br><br>Just what type of crime is associated with the missing .3% of those<br>incarcerated in Idaho's prisons?<br><br>Do we REALLY want to know?<br><br>Tom "Hard-Rock .3 percenter" Hansen<br>Moscow, Idaho<br><br><br><br>On Tue, March 8, 2011 3:23 pm, Joe Campbell wrote:<br>> Well, at least we can save 20.7%! Joe<br>><br>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Ron Force <<a ymailto="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>> Here's the breakdown of the Idaho prison population, 6/30/10, 7504<br>>> prisoners:<br>>><br>>> Murder & manslaughter 5.8%<br>>> Assault 23.3%<br>>> Property crimes 21.1%<br>>> Sex
21.4%<br>>> Alcohol 7.4%<br>>> Drugs 20.7%<br>>><br>>> Source: Idaho Department of Corrections, 2010 Annual Report<br>>><br>>> ------------------------------<br>>> *From:* Reggie Holmquist <<a ymailto="mailto:reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu" href="mailto:reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu">reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu</a>><br>>> *To:* Joe Campbell <<a ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>><br>>> *Cc:* Ron Force <<a ymailto="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>>; <a
ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>>> *Sent:* Tue, March 8, 2011 12:48:13 PM<br>>><br>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Sex Offender<br>>><br>>> I'm confused as to why we're focusing solely on sex offenders. The<br>>> large<br>>> majority of folks in the prison system are there on drug-related<br>>> charges.<br>>> Leave the sex offenders in, and early-relase (or reduce sentencing<br>>> guidelines for) the drug-related offenders in order to save money and<br>>> reduce<br>>> the size of the prison-industrial complex. Also, do not renew contracts<br>>> for<br>>> private prison profiteers, that way 35-40% of the state's prison costs<br>>> won't<br>>> be set in stone. If we are going to set anything in stone, it should be<br>>> a<br>>> base level of funding for
education (and that base level should be<br>>> higher<br>>> than the current level of funding).<br>>><br>>> -Reggie<br>>><br>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Joe Campbell<br>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>>><br>>>> This is a tricky issue.<br>>>><br>>>> On the one hand, I don't have much of a problem telling someone like<br>>>> John<br>>>> Rydberg, who has admitted to more than 90 sex offenses (see link<br>>>> below),<br>>>> that he should remain incarcerated.<br>>>><br>>>> On the other hand, even if we suppose that there is a 75% recidivism<br>>>> rate<br>>>> for sex offenders, you're still talking about the unjustified<br>>>> punishment of<br>>>> 25% of them if the suggestion IF the
suggestion is something like the<br>>>> "civil<br>>>> commitment sex offender treatment program" that Minnesota has.<br>>>><br>>>> Not that Rose or anyone else is suggesting that. So far the point is<br>>>> that<br>>>> sex offenders should not be allowed early release and that is a<br>>>> no-brainer,<br>>>> as it is with the early release of any violent criminal (unless there<br>>>> are<br>>>> extenuating circumstances).<br>>>><br>>>> But the overall issue of what to do with sex offenders, how long they<br>>>> deserve punishment, and whether incarceration in the form of treatment<br>>>> after<br>>>> punishment is a viable option is a very difficult issue, though one<br>>>> that<br>>>> needs much attention.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Ron Force <<a
ymailto="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>><br>>>> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>>> A pertinent story from Here and Now" this morning on NWPR:<br>>>>><br><span>>>>> <a target="_blank" href="http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2011/03/08/minnesota-sex-offender">http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2011/03/08/minnesota-sex-offender</a></span><br>>>>><br>>>>> Ron Force<br>>>>> Moscow Idaho USA<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> ------------------------------<br>>>>> *From:* "<a ymailto="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com" href="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com">betsyd@turbonet.com</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com" href="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com">betsyd@turbonet.com</a>><br>>>>> *To:* Rosemary Huskey <<a ymailto="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com"
href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>>; vision 2020 <<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>; Sunil Ramalingam <<a ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>><br>>>>> *Sent:* Tue, March 8, 2011 11:37:40 AM<br>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Sex Offender<br>>>>><br>>>>> Couldn't agree with you more!<br>>>>><br>>>>> Bets<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> -----Original message-----<br>>>>> From: "Rosemary Huskey" <a ymailto="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com" href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a><br>>>>> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:20:41 -0800<br>>>>> To: "'vision 2020'" <a
ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>, "'Sunil Ramalingam'"<br>>>>> <a ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br>>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sex Offender<br>>>>><br>>>>> > A juried review of recidivism, therapeutic modalities, etc. for sex<br><span>>>>> > offenders: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html">http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html</a></span><br>>>>> ><br>>>>> > The type of offense appears to have some impact of the likelihood of<br>>>>> > reoffending, (which is high at any rate amongst non-incest child<br>>>>> molesters).<br>>>>> > There seems to be disagreement among professionals about what<br>>>>> constitutes
a<br>>>>> > re-offense. For example, does re-offense mean an arrest, a<br>>>>> conviction,<br>>>>> or<br>>>>> > probation violation? And, of course, no one, except the<br>>>>> perpetrators<br>>>>> and<br>>>>> > the victims really know what that rate is. What is clear is that it<br>>>>> is<br>>>>> > underreported. Whether the rate (including perpetrators in regular<br>>>>> group<br>>>>> > "therapy" and I also use quotes) is 50% or .5% the possibility that<br>>>>> > convicted child molesters will continue to troll for and abuse<br>>>>> children<br>>>>> is<br>>>>> > too high. As for specifics, Steven Sitler was jailed in Latah<br>>>>> County<br>>>>> for<br>>>>> > almost a year and did in fact
drive himself (alone), to the<br>>>>> > Lewiston/Clarkston area regularly for "therapy." And yes, there<br>>>>> were<br>>>>> > controls in place in terms of time driving and mileage etc.<br>>>>> nonetheless, it<br>>>>> > was, in my opinion, a risky situation. I ask you and other 2020<br>>>>> > contributors, as I did the leaders of Christ Church who support him<br>>>>> in<br>>>>> his<br>>>>> > upcoming marriage, would you allow Steve Sitler, given his<br>>>>> horrendous<br>>>>> > history of child molestation, unlimited, unsupervised access to your<br>>>>> young<br>>>>> > children? No therapeutic professional would guarantee that Mr.<br>>>>> Sitler,<br>>>>> or<br>>>>> > others with similar criminal histories, can be
"cured" consequently<br>>>>> no<br>>>>> > thoughtful adult should trust him around any children. And, yes, I<br>>>>> would<br>>>>> > gladly pay more in taxes to keep offenders with a history like Mr.<br>>>>> Sitler's<br>>>>> > in jail until he is 80 years old. His life time probation offers<br>>>>> absolutely<br>>>>> > zero protection to his potential victims.<br>>>>> ><br>>>>> ><br>>>>> ><br>>>>> > Rose Huskey<br>>>>> ><br>>>>> ><br>>>>> ><br>>>>><br>>>>> ****************************<br>>>>> * Betsy Dickow ***************<br>>>>> * Love! Love! Love! ************<br>>>>> ****************************<br>>>>><br>>>>>
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