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<DIV><FONT size=4>Agreed,&nbsp; I think there is no harder job than being an 
elementary teacher.&nbsp; Imagine recess duty during this weather, and that 
doesn’t even have anything to do with the real work. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Congratulations, Joe. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Sue</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com 
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 24, 2011 7:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=suehovey@moscow.com 
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> ; <A 
title=philosopher.joe@gmail.com href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe 
Campbell</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=areaman@moscow.com href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">Dan 
Carscallen</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com 
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Statesman weighs in on 
ISU</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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      <DIV>Joe,</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Congratulations on your promotion!</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>You ask who I think is overpaid, OK, fine. Anyone making over $70,000 
      a year at UI or WSU is overpaid. If you want a list of names you can look 
      them yourself as they are available online. If an elementary teacher 
      starts at $28 K so should the teachers at the <SPAN>UI</SPAN> and WSU. It 
      is only fair. Elementary teachers have a harder job. </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Donovan Arnold<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 2/24/11, Joe Campbell 
      <I>&lt;philosopher.joe@gmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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        Joe Campbell &lt;philosopher.joe@gmail.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: 
        [Vision2020] Statesman weighs in on ISU<BR>To: "Sue Hovey" 
        &lt;suehovey@moscow.com&gt;<BR>Cc: "Donovan Arnold" 
        &lt;donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com&gt;, "Dan Carscallen" 
        &lt;areaman@moscow.com&gt;, "Moscow Vision 2020" 
        &lt;vision2020@moscow.com&gt;<BR>Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 7:26 
        PM<BR><BR>
        <DIV id=yiv2038325286>Donovan writes: "But this is not the case for many 
        administrators and professors in our region who are paid often twice 
        what they are worth." Who? Which administrators and professors in our 
        region are paid twice what they are worth? You say "many." Name a few. 
        You won't and can't.<BR><BR>This is a reckless, irresponsible comment. 
        Go and make reckless comments about your own job but I would appreciate 
        it if you wouldn't make them about mine. At least not while both local 
        universities are in a financial crisis.<BR><BR>By the way, I found out 
        today that I've been promoted to full Professor.<BR><BR>Best, 
Joe<BR><BR>
        <DIV class=yiv2038325286gmail_quote>On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Sue 
        Hovey <SPAN dir=ltr>&lt;<A 
        href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com" 
        rel=nofollow target=_blank 
        ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> 
        wrote:<BR>
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          <DIV><FONT size=4>That’s what I was telling you.&nbsp; Your phrase 
          “government employees”&nbsp; covers them all.&nbsp; I’m not really in 
          a position to determine whether many administrators and professors in 
          our region are paid twice what they are worth but I will say the ones 
          I know and work with are dedicated, hard working folks.&nbsp; 
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          <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT size=4>Sue&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
          <DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com 
          href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" 
          rel=nofollow target=_blank 
          ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> 
</DIV>
          <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:24 PM</DIV>
          <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=areaman@moscow.com 
          href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=areaman@moscow.com" 
          rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">Dan 
          Carscallen</A> ; <A title=philosopher.joe@gmail.com 
          href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=philosopher.joe@gmail.com" 
          rel=nofollow target=_blank 
          ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</A> ; <A 
          title=suehovey@moscow.com 
          href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com" 
          rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue 
          Hovey</A> </DIV>
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          <DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com 
          href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" 
          rel=nofollow target=_blank 
          ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
          <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Statesman weighs in on 
          ISU</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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                <DIV>Sue,</DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>To the contrary, Sue, I am amazed at what some government 
                employees are able to do with so few resources here in Idaho. 
                Most people that work in the government are underpaid. But this 
                is not the case for many administrators and professors in our 
                region who are paid often twice what they are worth.</DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>Elementary teachers, in general, and especially in Idaho, 
                are the most underpaid people for what they do, the crap they 
                put up with, and the amount of education they have acquired, and 
                the value of their work. Two of my best friends are teachers. 
                </DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>You don't have to preach to me how underpaid people are 
                working with people with disabilities, I grew in a family that 
                did just that. My job almost every morning is to take care of 
                six people with disabilities.</DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>I hope everything is going well in Hawaii, especially with 
                that US Rep of yours : P. </DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>Donovan Arnold<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 2/24/11, Sue Hovey 
                <I>&lt;<A 
                href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com" 
                rel=nofollow target=_blank 
                ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A>&gt;</I></B> 
                wrote:<BR></DIV>
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                  Sue <SPAN><SPAN>Hovey</SPAN></SPAN> &lt;<A 
                  href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=suehovey@moscow.com" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank 
                  ymailto="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A>&gt;<BR>Subject: 
                  Re: [Vision2020] Statesman weighs in on 
                  <SPAN>ISU</SPAN><BR>To: "Donovan Arnold" &lt;<A 
                  href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank 
                  ymailto="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>&gt;, 
                  "Dan Carscallen" &lt;<A 
                  href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=areaman@moscow.com" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank 
                  ymailto="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">areaman@moscow.com</A>&gt;, 
                  "Joe Campbell" &lt;<A 
                  href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=philosopher.joe@gmail.com" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank 
                  ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>Cc: 
                  "Moscow Vision 2020" &lt;<A 
                  href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank 
                  ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>&gt;<BR>Date: 
                  Thursday, February 24, 2011, 2:08 PM<BR><BR>
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                  <DIV><FONT size=4>Donovan, </FONT></DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT size=4>And, of course, this flip statement reflects 
                  your assumption that by nature government employees aren’t 
                  productive and should in every instance be able to do 
                  more.&nbsp; I tell you, Donovan, the people who work with my 
                  disabled daughter are underpaid, overworked, and are being 
                  forced into situations for which they are unprepared.&nbsp; 
                  And even so, in a few months almost 1/3rd or more may well be 
                  jobless.&nbsp; It’s nice to have you back online again, but in 
                  this case you really do know better. You’ve&nbsp; been 
                  there.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT size=4>Even in the private sector getting along to 
                  hold a job may well mean compromising ones ethics, harming 
                  other folks, not standing up in the face of grave error.&nbsp; 
                  That’s what those ISU folks were trying to oppose. Even if you 
                  disagree with their intent your casting them as lazy and 
                  unproductive ignores the issue.</FONT></DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT size=4>Sue H. </FONT></DIV>
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                  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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                  <DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com 
                  href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank>Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
                  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:2</DIV>
                  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=areaman@moscow.com 
                  href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=areaman@moscow.com" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank>Dan Carscallen</A> ; <A 
                  title=philosopher.joe@gmail.com 
                  href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=philosopher.joe@gmail.com" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank>Joe Campbell</A> </DIV>
                  <DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com 
                  href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" 
                  rel=nofollow target=_blank>Moscow Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
                  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Statesman weighs in on 
                  ISU</DIV></DIV></DIV>
                  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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                        <DIV>The SBOE should just fire everyone if it wishes to 
                        start fresh. Kind of hard to do that if they keep the 
                        same President which is half the problem. Maybe if 
                        government employees knew, like the rest of us in the 
                        private sector, that if they cannot get along and be 
                        productive they will be out of a job, they would try 
                        harder to get things done.</DIV>
                        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                        <DIV>Donovan Arnold<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 2/22/11, Joe 
                        Campbell <I>&lt;<A 
                        href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=philosopher.joe@gmail.com" 
                        rel=nofollow target=_blank 
                        ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>&gt;</I></B> 
                        wrote:<BR></DIV>
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                          Joe Campbell &lt;<A 
                          href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=philosopher.joe@gmail.com" 
                          rel=nofollow target=_blank 
                          ymailto="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>Subject: 
                          Re: [Vision2020] Statesman weighs in on ISU<BR>To: 
                          "Dan Carscallen" &lt;<A 
                          href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=areaman@moscow.com" 
                          rel=nofollow target=_blank 
                          ymailto="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">areaman@moscow.com</A>&gt;<BR>Cc: 
                          "Moscow Vision 2020" &lt;<A 
                          href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com" 
                          rel=nofollow target=_blank 
                          ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>&gt;<BR>Date: 
                          Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 9:59 PM<BR><BR>
                          <DIV>Oops! I feel a bit like Roseanne 
                          <SPAN>Roseannadana</SPAN>. 
                          Nevermind!<SPAN></SPAN><BR><BR>
                          <DIV>On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Dan Carscallen 
                          <SPAN dir=ltr>&lt;<A 
                          href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=areaman@moscow.com" 
                          rel=nofollow 
                          target=_blank>areaman@moscow.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> 
                          wrote:<BR>
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                            <DIV>Joe, </DIV>
                            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                            <DIV>Did you read the editorial? From what I gather, 
                            they agree with you<BR><FONT 
                            color=#888888><BR>DC</FONT></DIV>
                            <DIV>
                            <DIV></DIV>
                            <DIV>
                            <DIV><BR>On Feb 22, 2011, at 17:58, Joe Campbell 
                            &lt;<A 
                            href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=philosopher.joe@gmail.com" 
                            rel=nofollow 
                            target=_blank>philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>&gt; 
                            wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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                              <DIV>Great advice! Maybe they should just shut up 
                              and stick to the news!<BR><BR>
                              <DIV>On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Ron Force 
                              <SPAN dir=ltr>&lt;<A 
                              href="http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rforce2003@yahoo.com" 
                              rel=nofollow 
                              target=_blank>rforce2003@yahoo.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> 
                              wrote:<BR>
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                                <H3>February 22, 2011</H3>
                                <H1>Our View: Memo to ISU faculty: Just shut up 
                                and teach</H1>
                                <H2>- Idaho Statesman</H2>Seventy-six percent of 
                                Idaho State University’s faculty senators have a 
                                problem with Arthur Vailas. Earlier this month, 
                                they cast a no-confidence vote and urged their 
                                embattled president to step down. 
                                <DIV>And 100 percent of State Board of Education 
                                members have a problem with the ISU faculty 
                                Senate. On Thursday, the board voted unanimously 
                                to disband the Senate — at Vailas’ urging.</DIV>
                                <DIV>Well, that’s one way to try to make a 
                                crisis disappear. Who needs allies on campus 
                                when you have a compliant State Board in your 
                                pocket?</DIV>
                                <DIV>The message, for faculty and staff at ISU 
                                and other campuses, could hardly be more clear. 
                                If you have a complaint or a criticism, the 
                                State Board doesn’t want to hear from you or 
                                help solve problems.</DIV>
                                <DIV>Of course, that’s not how the board spins 
                                it. “The impasse between the leadership of the 
                                senate group and the administration has reached 
                                a point where the prospect of any kind of 
                                progress was simply non-existent,” board 
                                President Richard Westerberg said. “It’s time to 
                                start over.”</DIV>
                                <DIV>Starting over? Sure. But only after the 
                                board made sure to give Vailas all the leverage, 
                                and marginalize his faculty critics.</DIV>
                                <DIV>Oh, there will still be a place for the 
                                faculty to have a say. Just on Vailas’ terms. 
                                The board ordered Vailas to set up an interim 
                                advisory structure and come back in April and 
                                propose what the board calls a “reconstituted 
                                faculty Senate and a new faculty governance 
                                model.”</DIV>
                                <DIV>How’s that for even-handed?</DIV>
                                <DIV>It’s remarkable that the State Board chose 
                                to choose sides, especially at this advanced 
                                stage of unrest. </DIV>
                                <DIV>Vailas has been on the job since 2006, 
                                providing ample time for tensions to degenerate 
                                into grudges. The problems aren’t likely to just 
                                go away. It’s naive for the State Board to act 
                                as if that’s even a possibility.</DIV>
                                <DIV>Faculty members have aired some serious 
                                issues that warrant more active attention from 
                                the State Board — including complaints of 
                                closed-door budget decisions and high staff 
                                turnover.</DIV>
                                <DIV>These concerns should resonate under any 
                                circumstances — and especially during a funding 
                                crisis that requires university leaders to make 
                                tough budget decisions, explain policy publicly 
                                and clearly and get and keep buy-in from key 
                                faculty and staff.</DIV>
                                <DIV>“Sometimes we have to stand up and make our 
                                voices heard,” said ISU Faculty Senate chairman 
                                Phil Cole, according to the Associated Press. 
                                “The internal strife at ISU is killing 
                                ISU.”</DIV>
                                <DIV>Turns out Cole was worried over nothing. 
                                The State Board of Education has a foolproof 
                                plan for handling “internal strife.” Just tell 
                                all the naysayers to shut up.</DIV>“Our View” is 
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